Ha Ha - 'Climate Denier Ted Cruz Is Poised to Become a Lead Senator on Science'

[Troglodyte]

But we at least all agree that we are at mother natures mercy and if it comes down to catastrophic climate changes and severe weather events there isn't going to be a damned thing we (or our descendants) can do about it after the fact, right?

 

[DBS1970]

But we at least all agree that we are at mother natures mercy and if it comes down to catastrophic climate changes and severe weather events there isn't going to be a damned thing we (or our descendants) can do about it after the fact, right?

No.

There are a lot of Whackdoodles out there that really believe that the emissions from my Camaro has more to do with the climate warming than solar activity and variations in the earths orbit.

 

[Tibs]

No. There are a lot of Whackdoodles out there that really believe that the emissions from my Camaro has more to do with the climate warming than solar activity and variations in the earths orbit.

Correct, the 400 million metric tons of hazardous waste we're pumping into the environment each year is actually doing us good! It has a positive effect on our land, air, water, and of course on animals, including humans. Heavy metals? Bring them on! Chlorinated hydrocarbons? The more the better! Wee hee, let's pollute with impunity! No need whatsoever to control or slow down pollution, it's a anti-capitalist, anti-American trap! Cause Al Gore is a jackass! Cause climate change is a liberal fantasy! Let's crank up the factories, eliminate emission controls and pollute, pollute, pollute! Let's leave our kids a better world to live in!

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Let's crank up the factories, eliminate emission controls and pollute, pollute, pollute! Let's leave our kids a better world to live in!

China is already ahead of you.

 

[DBS1970]

Correct, the 400 million metric tons of hazardous waste we're pumping into the environment each year is actually doing us good! It has a positive effect on our land, air, water, and of course on animals, including humans. Heavy metals? Bring them on! Chlorinated hydrocarbons? The more the better! Wee hee, let's pollute with impunity! No need whatsoever to control or slow down pollution, it's a anti-capitalist, anti-American trap! Cause Al Gore is a jackass! Cause climate change is a liberal fantasy! Let's crank up the factories, eliminate emission controls and pollute, pollute, pollute! Let's leave our kids a better world to live in!

Mmmmm yeah that's what I am saying. You have noticed the places that are actually polluting indiscriminately are socialist workers paradises like China? Free market capitalists are smart enough to realize that we don't have another planet to live on. We don't have a problem with cleaning up after ourselves we have a problem with regulations that state storm water runoff must be cleaner than drinking water.

 

[Tibs]

China is already ahead of you.

Just the facts:

About 400 million metric tons of hazardous wastes are generated each year. The United States alone produces about 250 million metric tons. Americans constitute less than 5% of the world's population, but produce roughly 25% of the world’s CO2, and generate approximately 30% of world’s waste. In 2007, China has overtaken the United States as the world's biggest producer of CO2, while still far behind based on per capita pollution - ranked 78th among the world's nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution

 

[Ron Burgundy]

China burns more coal than the rest of the world combined, yet curiously Al Gore and the rest of the Greenies don't get on their *** about it. Why do you suppose that is?

 

[Vincent]

Just the facts:

About 400 million metric tons of hazardous wastes are generated each year. The United States alone produces about 250 million metric tons. Americans constitute less than 5% of the world's population, but produce roughly 25% of the world’s CO2, and generate approximately 30% of world’s waste. In 2007, China has overtaken the United States as the world's biggest producer of CO2, while still far behind based on per capita pollution - ranked 78th among the world's nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution

One wonders how much of that is the scraping off of Thanksgiving plates prior to insertion into dishwashers. Messy business.

Ah, 'Fun with Numbers'. That Wiki quote sourced 'Encarta 2009', which brings up a dead link. One wonders how much "fact" that has entered environmental "conventional wisdom" came from Encarta.

Inasmuch as most of the world has not engaged in any sort of hazardous waste "responsibility", we're likely among the few that even report such numbers, assigning ourselves "boogeyman" status by our mere "compliance". Put another way, stating that 5% of the population produces 5/8 of the world's hazardous waste is as credible as the whole "global warming / climate change" hysteria.

And of course, one wonders how much of "green house" gas and hazardous waste results from the caterwauling of environmentalists.

 

[madinsomniac]

The us does not produce 25% of the worlds CO2. its a play on words that has been accepted as truth by people not paying attention. They do not factor in any of the natural sources, such as people breathing, or a volcano erupting, or minor sources like cooking fires. they are simply talking about monitored industrial CO2, which is a fragment of the overall CO2 production. most countries have little to no regulation of this and most are smaller than the US so it stands to reason the US would have a large percentage of this number... but 25% of the earths CO2 is not produced here. its not even close...

 

[Troglodyte]

No.

There are a lot of Whackdoodles out there that really believe that the emissions from my Camaro has more to do with the climate warming than solar activity and variations in the earths orbit.

I have no idea what this has to do with my question that never mentioned cause. Are you at mother natures mercy? Yes or no? Are you really answering "No"?

If you want to be cavalier about the science of global warming being wrong that's one thing, but if you want to be cavalier about your ability to survive catastrophic weather events you're as stupid as the people who said they weren't going to run from Hurricane Katrina.

 

[madinsomniac]

I have no idea what this has to do with my question that never mentioned cause. Are you at mother natures mercy? Yes or no? Are you really answering "No"?

If you want to be cavalier about the science of global warming being wrong that's one thing, but if you want to be cavalier about your ability to survive catastrophic weather events you're as stupid as the people who said they weren't going to run from Hurricane Katrina.

Its a well known fact that Seattle is going to collapse when a earthquake similar to the 89 san fran one hits it. they did the research to cost out fixing or moving the city, they decided that it wasn't worth the effort. When it happens it will claim thousands of lives and cost over a trillion to rebuild.

there is a significant chance this will not happen in our lifetimes, or even the lifetimes of our grandchildren. it could also happen tomorrow... we cannot failsafe life. we can crash our economy and throw ourselves into the stone age on a theory that has been popular among the environmentalist outliers for well over a hundred years now, and which realistically the changes they want probably would not even come close to affecting natural climate change, which happens more often than they admit. I mean the methane pockets in the ocean bed contain more greenhouse gas than human have ever produced and those can leak at any time. A tidal wave can wipe out every coastal city in a flash. If Yellowstone blows its top, half the country is literally gone, but we are not freaking out about any of that... any care to guess why?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I have no idea what this has to do with my question that never mentioned cause. Are you at mother natures mercy? Yes or no? Are you really answering "No"?

If you want to be cavalier about the science of global warming being wrong that's one thing, but if you want to be cavalier about your ability to survive catastrophic weather events you're as stupid as the people who said they weren't going to run from Hurricane Katrina.

Ten years ago Al Gore said the polar ice caps would be melted in ten years.

 

[Steeltime]

Just the facts:

About 400 million metric tons of hazardous wastes are generated each year. The United States alone produces about 250 million metric tons. Americans constitute less than 5% of the world's population, but produce roughly 25% of the world’s CO2, and generate approximately 30% of world’s waste.

(1) CO2 is not a pollutant. You lose credibility in claiming that it is in fact a pollutant.
(2) The United States generates 30% of the world's "waste." What constitutes "waste" according to that Wikipedia reference? Beats me, since the footnote the Wikiepedia article cites in support does not exist. Specifically, the article cites this:

http://www.oregon.gov/DAS/FAC/docs/ww092001.pdf

And this article, which contains nothing other than a quick article summary with no mention of waste, what constitutes waste, or how much the United States produces:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/08/31/alarm_sounds_on_us_population_boom/

Therefore, your Wikipedia reference finds no support for the key proposition you make - NONE. You really need to learn to investigate issues, and stop re-posting garbage from Wikipedia.

(3) Okay, for the sake of discussion, let's presume that the United States produces 30% of the world's "waste," whatever that is. How much does the United States treat, or process, or eliminate? And how much of the world's food does the United States produce?

Data show that the United States is the most secure nation in the world at food production, and exports a tremendous amount of its food production. Specifically, the USDA reports that "American farmers export 45 percent of their wheat, 34 percent of their soybeans, 71 percent of their almonds, and more than 60 percent of their sunflower oil," as well as 20% of their corn production.

http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0712/top-agricultural-producing-countries.aspx

http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda...tail-9.xml&edeployment_action=retrievecontent

The United States feeds the world.

So, Tibs, to reduce the "waste" that concerns you, exactly which people would you kill? It is a serious question. The United States can reduce its production and use of Nitrogen in food production, and thus reduce "waste." but at what cost?

Seriously, whom do you think deserves to die? Please, share with us.

 

[DBS1970]

I have no idea what this has to do with my question that never mentioned cause. Are you at mother natures mercy? Yes or no? Are you really answering "No"

If you want to be cavalier about the science of global warming being wrong that's one thing, but if you want to be cavalier about your ability to survive catastrophic weather events you're as stupid as the people who said they weren't going to run from Hurricane Katrina.

I just wasn't going to speak for everyone. I don't believe that there is anything anyone can do to change weather patterns. Nor do I believe that there is anything that man can do to effect the long term climate of this rock we are floating through space on. There are others that do believe that we can though, Tibs for instance, and they believe that we are all going to die based on erroneous data that was jiggered around to keep university grant money rolling in.

 

[Spike]

and a cherry on top


Quiet 2014 Atlantic Hurricane Season Comes to a Close

The mellow 2014 Atlantic hurricane season ends Sunday (Nov. 30), marking another year without major hurricanes hitting the Eastern United States.

It has been a record-breaking nine years since a Category 3 hurricane (or stronger) made landfall along U.S. coastlines. The last was Hurricane Wilma in 2005 (Sandy was not a hurricane when it hit the northeast in 2012),

The United States has never recorded a nine-year period without a hurricane touching its shores. The prior record for the longest stretch, from 1861 to 1868, was set during the Civil War, according to Colorado State University climatologists.

The Atlantic produced only eight named tropical storms this year, the fewest since 1997, according to the National Hurricane Center

http://www.livescience.com/48943-quiet-2014-hurricane-season-ends.html

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Al Gore, laughingstock

 

[Tibs]

Seriously, whom do you think deserves to die? Please, share with us.

Clearly I deserve to die, since I didn't thoroughly research a wikipedia article and had the audacity to write a whimsical post about it on a far-right, tea party message board.

 

[ark steel]

The United States has never recorded a nine-year period without a hurricane touching its shores. The prior record for the longest stretch, from 1861 to 1868, was set during the Civil War, according to Colorado State University climatologists.

See, even more proof of AGW, err Climate Change!

 

[SteelChip]

Clearly I deserve to die, since I didn't thoroughly research a wikipedia article and had the audacity to write a whimsical post about it on a far-right, tea party message board.

This board isn't a far right tea party board but it does have some of us on it. The posts are more a reflection of the 'right of center' attitude in America. Just because the Lefty socialists are in power right now doesn't mean they represent the will of the people. Tea Partier's are the vocal vaccine against the Progressive disease.

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[hamster]

This may be perceived as a right wing board, because the lefties ideas usually don't hold up to scrutiny, and they end up leaving due to frustration.

 

[Rod Farva]

Clearly I deserve to die, since I didn't thoroughly research a wikipedia article and had the audacity to write a whimsical post about it on a far-right, tea party message board.

Hyperbole much?

This may be perceived as a right wing board, because the lefties ideas usually don't hold up to scrutiny, and they end up leaving due to frustration.

'Zackly.....a self perpetuating cycle.

 

[Steeltime]

Clearly I deserve to die, since I didn't thoroughly research a wikipedia article and had the audacity to write a whimsical post about it on a far-right, tea party message board.

Answer the question. Your political ilk loves to extoll the value of reducing CO2 emissions, or reducing the United States' energy usage, and reducing fertilizer and pesticide use in our food production.

Okay, great - so who dies? Implementing your recommendations will kill an astonishing number of people. Don't be a coward - answer the question. Who deserves to die under your plan?

Your inability to answer the question shows just how facile your beliefs are.

 

[madinsomniac]

This may be perceived as a right wing board, because the lefties ideas usually don't hold up to scrutiny, and they end up leaving due to frustration.

LOL Well that isn't entirely true, some commit suicide by mod. Eventually the injustice of this place will build up until a bunch of FNGs and people from another board show up and burn the "football only" board down in protest.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

LOL Well that isn't entirely true, some commit suicide by mod. Eventually the injustice of this place will build up until a bunch of FNGs and people from another board show up and burn the "football only" board down in protest.

Nah, Lyn's trigger finger is too quick for that and Coolie isn't far behind.

 

[Stewey]

Clearly I deserve to die, since I didn't thoroughly research a wikipedia article and had the audacity to write a whimsical post about it on a far-right, tea party message board.

Well yeah you do, you leave a carbon footprint. Go kill yourself. Do your part and help save the planet.