Have you heard this one? Bernie's rape fantasy essays?

[ark steel]

You're normalizing this situation to make it "less an issue." When have you attacked a Democrat on this board?

Nuff said.

And I'm well old enough to be your Dad - I'm pretty sure.

"But I see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful
Like a rainbow"​

He's a open minded critical thinker. Unless someone criticizes The Big O. Well, apparently, other democrats. He will make sure to tell you he is not an fan of The Big O, but then proceed with some moral equivalence that may or may not be relevant.

He's here to make sure us fake conservative pasty faced hypocrites stay in our place.

 

[ark steel]

I think a lot of women fantasize about being overpowered by someone they know and/or are hot for. I doubt many fantasize about being raped by three random men. I hope most men aren't fantasizing about abusing women. Playfully tormenting them maybe but not abusing them.

Now I'd really like to stop thinking about Bernie Sanders contemplating sexual fantasies or else I may never be able to have sex again.

if you never want to have sex again you can live in my house. Apparently, I run a home for women who don't like sex.

 

[Stewey]

So the truth is irrelevant, people pretending to be appalled and offended by something from 44 years ago is what's relevant?

Um no. Whether truthful or non truthful, Im claiming his response was irrelevant to what he was responding to.

In case you missed it, I prefaced by saying "That may be true..."

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So the truth is irrelevant, people pretending to be appalled and offended by something from 44 years ago is what's relevant?

If it happened 44 years ago to Trump, to Romney, to Palin, to Bush, et al, it is absolutely relevant and will dominate the airwaves and interwebs for months on end, non-stop.

 

[DBS1970]

Its old news and irrelevant. There is plenty of substanitve things to hammer Crazy-B over.

 

[ark steel]

Its old news and irrelevant. There is plenty of substanitve things to hammer Crazy-B over.

Dat's da truf!!

 

[IndySteel]

If it happened 44 years ago to Trump, to Romney, to Palin, to Bush, et al, it is absolutely relevant and will dominate the airwaves and interwebs for months on end, non-stop.

Exactly. Saying that women want to be triple-raped, or bowling-balled against their will, is relevant no matter how long ago.

 

[Troglodyte]

People like porn. This doesn't have anything to do with rape, unless you equate people that watch porn with rapist.

When the porn has to do with women's fantasies about bondage and sadomasochism I'd say its relevant to women's fantasies about rape.

If someone who was appalled and offended by 50 Shades of Gray is also offended by Bernie's 44 year old column, fine. But if it's one of the tens of millions of people who read 50 Shades of Gray being offended, they're not really offended, they're really political.

 

[oneforthebus]

When the porn has to do with women's fantasies about bondage and sadomasochism I'd say its relevant to women's fantasies about rape.

If someone who was appalled and offended by 50 Shades of Gray is also offended by Bernie's 44 year old column, fine. But if it's one of the tens of millions of people who read 50 Shades of Gray being offended, they're not really offended, they're really political.

Consensual S&M while not my thing is not "rape".

 

[Troglodyte]

Consensual S&M while not my thing is not "rape".

We're talking about fantasies, not actual rape. I'd say consensual mock rape falls under S&M.

 

[Confluence]

We're talking about fantasies, not actual rape. I'd say consensual mock rape falls under S&M.

Is that like a mock wall falls under immigration policy?

 

[Troglodyte]

Is that like a mock wall falls under immigration policy?

Only if we rape Mexico by forcing them pay for it, I suppose.

 

[oneforthebus]

We're talking about fantasies, not actual rape. I'd say consensual mock rape falls under S&M.

Let me explain it to you this way...getting turned on by watching 50 Shades of Grey is not the same as getting turned on by watching say, The Accused or Boys Don't Cry. Real rape is ugly and horrifying, there is nothing sexy or arousing about it. Therefore, to say that most women "fantasize about being raped" is not exactly accurate.

 

[Superman]

Queuing a response from Supe in five, four, three, two.....

she already said...

I think a lot of women fantasize about being overpowered by someone they know and/or are hot for.

 

[Troglodyte]

Let me explain it to you this way...getting turned on by watching 50 Shades of Grey is not the same as getting turned on by watching say, The Accused or Boys Don't Cry. Real rape is ugly and horrifying, there is nothing sexy or arousing about it. Therefore, to say that most women "fantasize about being raped" is not exactly accurate.

Let me explain it this way: Being restrained, blindfolded, gagged, dominated and have pain inflicted IMPLIES a non-consensual or forced scenario, even if it isn't. To say S&M and rape fantasies are completely unrelated is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

 

[Superman]

you obviously do not understand S&M

 

[Troglodyte]

you obviously do not understand S&M

My guess is rape victims probably don't care to "understand" S&M either... not that they are at all similar, right?

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Dude. People have all kinds of crazy **** they fantasize about. ******* angels. ******* nuns. ******* nuns in a confessional. ******* aliens. ******* elves.

It does not seem out of the realm of possibility that women fantasize about rape, especially given the number of them that report doing exactly that.

You know what a "furry" is? You don't want to. It's just one more reason to be glad you're not a millennial. Know what a "brony" is? It's even worse.

Bernie is a kook. But this is one of the less kooky things he's done.

 

[Tibs]

Dude. People have all kinds of crazy **** they fantasize about.

Yes indeed. I fantasize about elves ******* nuns ******* angels ******* aliens in a confessional. No wonder I'm a Bernie supporter.

 

[oneforthebus]

Let me explain it this way: Being restrained, blindfolded, gagged, dominated and have pain inflicted IMPLIES a non-consensual or forced scenario, even if it isn't. To say S&M and rape fantasies are completely unrelated is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

I didn't say they're completely unrelated. I said they aren't exactly the same.

 

[ark steel]

Let me explain it this way: Being restrained, blindfolded, gagged, dominated and have pain inflicted IMPLIES a non-consensual or forced scenario, even if it isn't. To say S&M and rape fantasies are completely unrelated is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

OK, let me explain:

SV said:

The Right and the Left both claim to hate porn.

But Google search statistics say somebody's lyin....

The truth of this statement has nothing, at all, whatsoever didly squat, whatever you want to call it with rape, whether fantasized, simulated or actual. Porn does not, necessarily include bondage or any of what you say implies non-consensual whatever.

 

[Superman]

My guess is rape victims probably don't care to "understand" S&M either... not that they are at all similar, right?

so S&M = rape?

 

[Troglodyte]

so S&M = rape?

No, but there's no denying similarities between the two, especially when the S&M involves bondage, restraints or rough sex. A pornographic image of a S&M act could easily be mistaken for rape and vice-versa.

 

[IndySteel]

No, but there's no denying similarities between the two, especially when the S&M involves bondage, restraints or rough sex. A pornographic image of a S&M act could easily be mistaken for rape and vice-versa.

Are you ******* kidding?

 

[Troglodyte]

Are you ******* kidding?

So you struggle to imagine a rape victim might be bound, restrained or treated roughly.

I'm quite certain it has happened.