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Highsmith extended

Never said that, I don’t expect that but do see it as the probability it is and am optimistic he doesn’t

Just said a guy getting paid top 10 should be a Batman guy
Should be able to produce as “the guy” no matter the situation

If said dude is a Robin, then the Steelers overpaid for a side kick’s services

I still don’t know if he is good or great and the contract seems like a slight hedge to keep him towards an overpayment, but if he grows upon last year and we have 2 Batmen then well his contract will be extremely preferential to the Steelers

Well see soon, can’t wait
Literally every player on defense is worse without Watt on the field, even the great Cameron Heyward. Only 2 sacks while Watt is out of the lineup and 8.5 with him in the lineup. Another overpaid Robin on defense playing sidekick to Watt.
 
I didn't qualify it. The options were to keep Highsmith, break the bank in free agency, sign a bargain player who won't produce, or draft a player and wait 2-3 years for them to develop. Highsmith was in the 2-3 years to develop category.

I'd rather not waste the rest of Watt's prime floundering around trying to find another pass rusher.
You most certainly did qualify Highsmith only having six sacks in 2021 by saying he was only in his second year and not from a power 5 conference. I don't know how you can deny that.

Break the bank in free agency? What? I'd rather have seen what Highsmith could have done this year while playing for that next big contract, not having it handed to him in advance. Maybe he still would have re-signed with the Steelers next year...we'll never know.
 
If it's in anyway close, the Steelers will always sign their own guy instead of another's.
Not sure what that has to do with Haason Reddick signing with the Eagles over a year ago, but OK.
 
What a twatwaffle reply

Find one same Steeler fan that believes Highsmith, and his 1 career year of 5 FF and 14.5 sacks, is better at the whole “strip sack/forced fumble” thing than Watt…your assertion jack astronaut

Already know the stats of FF and sacks you should check them more thoroughly before you come back with more BS and see Watt reigning supreme year after year…ope except that one year when he was injured and threw Alex a bone

Alex is good…we all know who owns that category tho and it ain’t even close
You’re an idiot. I was replying to your “ much less the league “ quote. As I had said he led the league. Which he did. Which of course your lazy *** disputed.
No where once did I say Alex is better than TJ. Which he certainly isn’t. Which for some reason you want to make this into. Seriously man.
 
I would find a reasonable expectation for a top 10 paid edge is to be highly productive Whether someone else is taking away the attention or not.

Hopefully he continues to progress and becomes the Batman, rather than Robin, then the contract is a value

If he does what he does when Watt not there, then the Steelers slightly over paid.
The only way he can prove that he can produce without Watt is if Watt is hurt. Then I guess we can ask the question if Watt's contract is horrible with a player who has shown a problem staying healthy. So I hope never to see if Highsmith can produce without Watt. I just want to see him produce WITH Watt.
 
Highsmith had 3.5 sacks in those 7 games, not 4. That's 8.5 sacks over 17 games, good for 27th in the league.
Thats still one of the top 32 edges in the game. In a NFL where sacks and pressures are invaluable, its hard to argue against spending money on guys who can do it, regardless of their qualifiers…
 
You're the one talking about Reddick in a Highsmith thread.
Yes, hard to imagine that the name of another NFL edge rusher making almost the same amount of money might come up in a Highsmith thread. Good point.
 
Thats still one of the top 32 edges in the game. In a NFL where sacks and pressures are invaluable, its hard to argue against spending money on guys who can do it, regardless of their qualifiers…
It sure is. But it's not top ten like his new contract is going to pay him, is it?
 
Good for him but $17 million is high for a guy with one good season where the overwhelming majority of his stats came with Watt on the field. $15 million would have been my absolute highest number with my original offer being in the $12 to 14 million range. He hasn't shown he is a No. 1 OLB but a No. 2 guy and definitely nowhere near elite. I sure hope this doesn't come back to bite them. It also makes it almost impossible to keep Cam unless he takes a HUGE pay cut.
I was thinking exact same thing and all I can think of was the Steelers left some some meat on the bone. He’s done everything they have asked of him he’s gotten better every year…you pick your fights Steelers decided this wasn’t one of them he’s signed, sealed, delivered before camp GoSteelers!
 
I was thinking exact same thing and all I can think of was the Steelers left some some meat on the bone. He’s done everything they have asked of him he’s gotten better every year…you pick your fights Steelers decided this wasn’t one of them he’s signed, sealed, delivered before camp GoSteelers!
The Steelers are handling Highsmith very differently than Bush. That is good forvthe team and the man.

Maybe, just maybe, the folks that drafted him to bookend Watt got this one dead on, and are paying him now before his value in FA goes way up.
 
Yes, hard to imagine that the name of another NFL edge rusher making almost the same amount of money might come up in a Highsmith thread. Good point.
You're talking in circles. You asked why I brought up the Steelers extending a guy like Highsmith instead of signing Reddick. I said they always opt for one of their own and you acted like I was off topic. No need to reply. Please.
 
So going into next year, it’s fairly possible that we can simply go BPA in the first two rounds… maybe we get pigeonholed into a DT/DE type if tge young guys haven’t stepped up, and maybe Jpjr and Trice aren’t up to speed and we need a CB… but really… if these guys this year pan out… they are pretty well set for a bit… maybe an upgrade at C… maybe a high end Ilb… but the roster isn’t looking like it will have any giant need holes in it … just backups and upgrades …
 
Well, more deals are going to get done with pass rushers and here is the next guy up.



Almost $3 million more per year in new money and a higher guaranteed value. Career sack total: 3.5, 2.0, 4.5, 5.0, and 9.5 (24.5 total in 5 seasons).
 
You're talking in circles. You asked why I brought up the Steelers extending a guy like Highsmith instead of signing Reddick. I said they always opt for one of their own and you acted like I was off topic. No need to reply. Please.
As I clearly stated, Reddick was already signed to a three-year contract with the Eagles in 2022, so the Steelers signing Reddick this year instead of extending Highsmith was never even in the realm of possibility. So, kindly, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

And, no, the Steelers don't "always sign their own guy" if it's close, because you may recall that they let Bush and Spillane walk while also getting rid of Jack, and replaced them with a couple of inside linebackers who most of us had never heard of before.
 
Don't get me wrong. I'm good on the Steelers keeping Highsmith. I just think they paid a premium for one good season. It is a risk. The good thing is he is young and has improved each year. He needs to keep improving. They are paying a ton on D which means some of the O players aren't going to be happy when it's time for their contract or these D players will not get another contract (including Heywarth if he's still playing like he is). It also means the D needs to be top 10 and probably top 5 to justify the money being spent there.
 
Don't get me wrong. I'm good on the Steelers keeping Highsmith. I just think they paid a premium for one good season. It is a risk. The good thing is he is young and has improved each year. He needs to keep improving. They are paying a ton on D which means some of the O players aren't going to be happy when it's time for their contract or these D players will not get another contract (including Heywarth if he's still playing like he is). It also means the D needs to be top 10 and probably top 5 to justify the money being spent there.
As I highlighted above, the Seahawks just did the same, but at a higher cost. The Highsmith deal is a relatively minimal risk compared to other high-priced.

I wouldn't automatically assume the offensive players won't be happy when it's their time for a contract. All the potentially highly paid players are in year 2 or 3. The Steelers have also shown they'll only pay one wide receiver and just keep drafting replacements. The cap will be higher and there'll be space. Plus, there's always the potential to move cap space around with the defenders by this time. Plus, isn't managing the cap kind of how the NFL works? There'll always be these types of decisions.

When everyone was healthy last year, the defense was only behind the 49ers in scoring defense. They need to stay healthy and if they do should once again be one of the best in the league. The defense was the main reason the Steelers were 9-8 last season.
 
As I highlighted above, the Seahawks just did the same, but at a higher cost. The Highsmith deal is a relatively minimal risk compared to other high-priced.

I wouldn't automatically assume the offensive players won't be happy when it's their time for a contract. All the potentially highly paid players are in year 2 or 3. The Steelers have also shown they'll only pay one wide receiver and just keep drafting replacements. The cap will be higher and there'll be space. Plus, there's always the potential to move cap space around with the defenders by this time. Plus, isn't managing the cap kind of how the NFL works? There'll always be these types of decisions.

When everyone was healthy last year, the defense was only behind the 49ers in scoring defense. They need to stay healthy and if they do should once again be one of the best in the league. The defense was the main reason the Steelers were 9-8 last season.
True but in a few years, the O should be getting the contracts. We will potentially have Pickett, Pickens, Muuth, Jones, another OL, etc taking up huge chunks of cap space. If that happens, what is left for the D? Will they resign Watt and Minkah to another huge contract to finish their careers? What if Porter and/or Trice pan out? How about Benton to replace Heyward's cap number? I know there are a lot of what-ifs. I am sure glad I don't have to navigate the cap.
 
As I clearly stated, Reddick was already signed to a three-year contract with the Eagles in 2022, so the Steelers signing Reddick this year instead of extending Highsmith was never even in the realm of possibility. So, kindly, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

And, no, the Steelers don't "always sign their own guy" if it's close, because you may recall that they let Bush and Spillane walk while also getting rid of Jack, and replaced them with a couple of inside linebackers who most of us had never heard of before.
By most people’s estimation, the ILB room was upgraded. The proof remains to be seen. But I’m optimistic. Bush was a total bust.
 
True but in a few years, the O should be getting the contracts. We will potentially have Pickett, Pickens, Muuth, Jones, another OL, etc taking up huge chunks of cap space. If that happens, what is left for the D? Will they resign Watt and Minkah to another huge contract to finish their careers? What if Porter and/or Trice pan out? How about Benton to replace Heyward's cap number? I know there are a lot of what-ifs. I am sure glad I don't have to navigate the cap.
To me none of that is worth worrying about because it's years away. I just know that generally the Steelers keep the guys they want to keep and they've kept guys too long out of loyalty so they can retire a Steeler and told others to hit the road because they knew they were done. It's early, but I feel confident with the new front office. Not every move will be a home run, but the approach made sense this year. I think we have a couple of smart guys running the front office and they've built a scouting department to match their approach.
 
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