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Initial Thoughts on packer Game

Their remaining quality opponents are Colts, Chargers, Lions, Ravens twice. I think their best chance us Chargers. And then at least one more ridiculous loss. So probably 8 losses. At best 7 and one and done again.
P.S. Bills too. What is the over under on what they score.....34? They are 9 wins max.
 
No, they are terrible at developing draft picks…there is a huge difference.
If they were terrible at developing they should have gone on to be something highly respectable on other teams after they were let go here. We could go through the last 10 drafts. They've been outright terrible.
 
If they were terrible at developing they should have gone on to be something highly respectable on other teams after they were let go here. We could go through the last 10 drafts. They've been outright terrible.
True, AND they can't develop talent. So, there's that.
 
For the most part they have been good with DL and typically WRs....even rbs. Everything else has been a crap shoot....but its mainly a crap shoot because they have had terrible scouting. .
 
Initial thought is that the Packers made the necessary halftime adjustments. The Steelers actually made some changes (!) in their defensive plan (maybe MT was implementing those while he was watching film when Tony Dungy called him this morning...lol). They were blitzing and having some success with it. The Packers go in at the half, come out throwing with quick passes, and totally negate the blitz. Add poor tackling to that and you have what we saw in the second half -- complete domination by Green Bay. The Steelers just kept on blitzing the vast majority of the time, and continued to get burned. There really doesn't seem to be an answer against good offensive teams. The schemes are bad, and the players aren't making enough plays. They cannot pressure the quarterback with a 4-man rush, and no matter how they try and defend, they eventually get eaten alive.

Other thoughts:

1) The fix may have been in tonight. That non-offsides call was one of the most egregious I've ever seen. Then, on one of the few plays where Love held the ball and the blitz actually got there, he lobs it up, Kraft clearly pushes off, and they don't call pass interference. That was a huge moment in the game. And no offsetting penalties in that 4th quarter scrum?

2) TJ Watt is not the same player he's been for most of his career. I don't know if he's hurt, or already washed up, but he's a shell of what he was a few years ago. If he can't start getting to the quarterback again, this defense is complete toast. At least they're not paying him much, right?

3) I understand that Tucker Kraft is a great athlete, but at 6'5" and nearly 260 lbs., the fact that he can run away from Chuck Clark (who weighs 50 pounds less) is both sad and sobering.

4) They need to start rolling Rodgers out of the pocket more often. He's as old as dirt, but he can still move a little bit when it's designed into the play and he can get a head start on things. Having him sit back in the pocket and try and find somebody more than 5 yards from the line of scrimmage is just painful to watch most of the time.

5) Maybe it's time to get Roman Wilson some more snaps. He played well.
 
Dumping Watt isn't going to help the defense now but dumping that $40 million a year contract will help in the future. I don't see how it could be much worse without him right now.
Watt's last year of his extension is 2028. That seems so far away at the moment.
 
is not that hard math to realize that:
- 2 DL plus 2 Edge = not enough pressure
- 6 men blitz = burned downfield

so why not 3 DL dammit? help your edge guys get free. Rush with 5, that should be enough to get on the QBs face without completely selling out
 
is not that hard math to realize that:
- 2 DL plus 2 Edge = not enough pressure
- 6 men blitz = burned downfield

so why not 3 DL dammit? help your edge guys get free. Rush with 5, that should be enough to get on the QBs face without completely selling out

Half of the blitzing was fake,but enough to get them out of position. Love had a plethora of wide open guys constantly. If you add in that ridiculous 10 yard cushion it makes for a field day for yards after the catch.

An angry girl scout troop tackles better. I don't think I've ever seen them this soft in my lifetime.
 
Well now that's what NY, Seattle, Cincy, GB that this defense who can cover anybody, just as Tomlin, can't cover. Maybe what Tomlin meant when he said this defense would do historic things, is historically bad things.
You see GB moving Parsons all over the field, yet we don't move Watt ever.
 
I knew we were cooked when a flutter ball turned in to a 59 yard reception. Honestly, I think the only ones who care about this team getting better are the fans on this site. Whether they know it or not, this team is playing for a high draft pick.
 
We blitz but play soft behind it which is counter-productive. That is like pitch and catch for the QB. If you are going to be aggressive and blitz then don't give the receivers a 15yrd cushion. That is just plain idiotic. We can't stop slants or swing passes. Our pass rush is not getting there so have Highsmith / Watt jump the slants or swing passes occasionally. At least make the QB think. The few times we got pressure love just chucked up ducks which were completed because our secondary is invisible. Love had 20 straight completions at one point and probably at least 15 of those were basically uncontested. If we can't get to the QB, cover people, or stop the run, I have no idea what our defense is doing.
On offense we were imposing our will with the jumbo package. So of course we go away from it. The slant to DK is almost indefensible, but we don't use it near enough. Wilson had a nice game and better get more playing time now. We do not stick with what is working and it is maddening.
 
Well now that's what NY, Seattle, Cincy, GB that this defense who can cover anybody, just as Tomlin, can't cover. Maybe what Tomlin meant when he said this defense would do historic things, is historically bad things.
You see GB moving Parsons all over the field, yet we don't move Watt ever.
Moving Watt around isn't the answer. Watt is a bull. A rapidly aging bull. Parsons is much more athletic and easier to move around.

Not that Tomlin could scheme anything anyways.
 
By gaining draft picks to draft for the future. This season is going nowhere. May as well get something for Watt before he's cooked. As for Queen, how much is he really contributing over Holcomb?

I'm punting on this season. These coaches could have the literal starting pro bowl defense and they'd be getting beat.
The only downside to dumping players right now is Tomlin and the rest of the coaching staff would have an excuse. It's best they crash and burn with this "historic defense ". Maybe just maybe that opens Rooney's eyes finally.
 
Moving Watt around isn't the answer. Watt is a bull. A rapidly aging bull. Parsons is much more athletic and easier to move around.

Not that Tomlin could scheme anything anyways.

The trouble is nothing ever changes in season with this coaching staff. That's what I've noticed for over a decade.

They're ****** teachers and lazy or incompetent tacticians. When you trot out the same failed **** you've been doing for years on end,you're going to get the same results.
 
Rodgers can barely walk, he may not be alive by Tutkey Day

Too late to trade TJ. 2 years ago he would have brought at least one first & a package

Now? Nada great job FO! We are setup for the next decade
 
The defense is soft. The defensive coaching is terrible. Love completed 20 straight passes last night.

Jalen Warren ran well in the first half and basically had one carry in the second half until the game got out of hand.

Another game against a good QB and team, another blowout minus a garbage time TD.

It’s the same problems, just a different week.
 
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