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Interviews for Steelers new head coach thread

I want Shula and w hope he poaces someone from la staff to be the OC DC don't know if Flores if he doesnt get the hc will settle but loved his minnesota schemes unpredtiavle packages
 
Avoid_Lloyd said:
It’s not a sham. Rooney will say he didn’t think he was going to hire Tomlin but was so impressed with him each time they talked he wanted to talk to him again. That’s exactly why the rule is there, and of course the Rooneys will always be open to hiring minorities but it gets others an opportunity with other owners. It’s progress, not as fast as anyone wants but it’s progress.

If someone is discriminatory in their heart or mind a rule won’t stop them-nothing probably will.

It’s my contention the pressure to win in this league is too intense and it’s too competitive to not be open minded to hire the best person.

What I have an issue with is Flores painting the whole league with a broad brush like that to call the Rooney rule a “sham”

I want a head coach to not be looking for an excuse or to cast blame on someone else, but to be the master of his own destiny.

For what it’s worth I always admired the way Tomlin stayed away from bringing race into any conversation about him, his team, his wins and losses, and the narrative surrounding him
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It is a sham, and I'll paint the exact scenario it shows it's colors.

Quite a few here on this board want Shula of the list of candidates for the steelers job. So we are going to run with that. The steelers know that Shula is their man, his interview was amazing, he's exactly what they are looking for, they are ready to move the process along...but nope!

To satisfy the rule, they must interview two minorities in person first. Even tho, in their mind, they already have their guy. So now they have to waste the time of two other individuals and the organization as well.

Now this scenario doesn't actually exist with the steelers, since they have had in person with Flores, and plan on Weaver, and if Scheelhaus gets an in person, but it DID with New England last year. Everyone and their brother knew it was Vrabel.

That's not progress, progress is teams actively pursuing coaches like Flores, Weaver, Scheelhaus, Saleh...which is happening. But FORCING it isn't helping anyone.
 
Rooney said he didn't like wining and dining new coaches. Perhaps he has others in the organization do it, but he doesn't like it.
 
insaniti said:
It is a sham, and I'll paint the exact scenario it shows it's colors.

Quite a few here on this board want Shula of the list of candidates for the steelers job. So we are going to run with that. The steelers know that Shula is their man, his interview was amazing, he's exactly what they are looking for, they are ready to move the process along...but nope!

To satisfy the rule, they must interview two minorities in person first. Even tho, in their mind, they already have their guy. So now they have to waste the time of two other individuals and the organization as well.

Now this scenario doesn't actually exist with the steelers, since they have had in person with Flores, and plan on Weaver, and if Scheelhaus gets an in person, but it DID with New England last year. Everyone and their brother knew it was Vrabel.

That's not progress, progress is teams actively pursuing coaches like Flores, Weaver, Scheelhaus, Saleh...which is happening. But FORCING it isn't helping anyone.
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As I said you can’t make any rule that changes someone’s heart or mind, if someone has their guy then they have their guy. Is it perfect-no. Does it give a minority candidate interview experience, visibility, word of mouth? I think so

And in my opinion for Flores to crap all over something that has benefited people because things didn’t go his way says something about him-and it’s not good

Just my opinion tho, I see what you mean too
 
Teams should interview lots of folks, because it in their best interests to talk to the field of possible choices regardless of whether or not they have already chosen.

The Steelers get one shot about every generation to talk like this with the leading edge of HC possibilities.

Spending a couple hours extra on each of a bunch of top candidates surely has to be beneficial to a FO that so rarely has this door open. A free look at a top OC mindset would be greatly beneficial, imo.

Only folks seeking division would care who they choose to speak with, their pedigree, their recent success, their race/sex/nose size, etc.

If they wanna interview Megan Rapinoe, I won't like it, but its their business.
 
Just because we like Shula doesn’t mean he’d take the job. He could decide Buffalo is better.
I heard a while ago that Ray Sherman would take HC interviews to satisfy the Rooney Rule, just give him a first class flight, a 5 star hotel and a 5 star restaurant, he’d come in and say “Howya doin’?” and take first class flight back home. He didn’t give a ****. Sweet gig if you can get it.
 
That does concern me with Shula not really finding this to be an attractive job.
The big selling point for the Steelers is patience with their HCs, and longevity.
The roster and lack of a quality QB is a big negative.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Just because we like Shula doesn’t mean he’d take the job. He could decide Buffalo is better.
I heard a while ago that Ray Sherman would take HC interviews to satisfy the Rooney Rule, just give him a first class flight, a 5 star hotel and a 5 star restaurant, he’d come in and say “Howya doin’?” and take first class flight back home. He didn’t give a ****. Sweet gig if you can get it.
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i IDENTIFY as a black American Indian South African Asian coach with NFL potential.

does that count?
 
BLITZ said:
Does anyone realize that we could hire a coach that HAS NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON?
mike Tomlin is there for us to grab. What is stupid rooney waiting for!
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He would be a great fit for Cleveland.
 
steelhurt said:
That does concern me with Shula not really finding this to be an attractive job.
The big selling point for the Steelers is patience with their HCs, and longevity.
The roster and lack of a quality QB is a big negative.
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Not sure if he is or isn’t. They are still playing so I think he is singularly focusing in on that…
 
steelhurt said:
That does concern me with Shula not really finding this to be an attractive job.
The big selling point for the Steelers is patience with their HCs, and longevity.
The roster and lack of a quality QB is a big negative.
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Bingo.
 
My humble opinion…
There are two men that probably really want the Steeler job ahead of any others. One is Brian Flores and the other is Mike McCarthy.
Flores because of his respect for the Rooney family past, present, and future, as far as their history, and the Rooney belief of looking to create opportunities for African-American players and coaches. The Rooney also gave the man a job when I don’t believe any other team in the NFL would’ve considering the circumstances he was under.
McCarthy, and you could probably guess why, the guy is a local he’s a Yinzer. He understands the Rooney way of doing things,He understands Pittsburgh, He just gets it and aligns with the Steeler Way. In fact, I would go as far to say that Mike McCarthy is motivated to get the Steelers back into the pecking order of the NFL that they have enjoyed for so many years.

That’s my opinion…those are the only two guys that probably would take the Pittsburgh job over most any other opening at the moment… sans Cleveland, of course..

So with that being said and once again, let’s get them on board… both of them!
 
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steelhurt said:
That does concern me with Shula not really finding this to be an attractive job.
The big selling point for the Steelers is patience with their HCs, and longevity.
The roster and lack of a quality QB is a big negative.
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On not having a quality QB yes I agree that is a negative to some coaches probably if you’re the top candidate and there’s a chance to Coach Allen or Jackson

I don’t think the current roster besides QB is all that big of a deal, jobs are usually open for a reason and a new coach would get that, we see teams go from the outhouse to the Penthouse all the time in the NFL in 1-3 years, we do have a lot of cap space too.
 
KentuckySteeler said:
They are going to serverly underwhelm us with this hire. I smell it.
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I can see Deuce going low-risk and hiring McCarthy to keep the non-losing season streak going.
 
Coryea said:
Would hate that hire, but wouldn't surprise me, we had the guy here, could've made him our DC, but we let him leave, now we'll hire him back as the HC, sounds about right.
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The Fan reporting that his contract is up with the Vikings but if he doesn’t get hired as HC somewhere they would like him back as DC.
 
insaniti said:
It is a sham, and I'll paint the exact scenario it shows it's colors.

Quite a few here on this board want Shula of the list of candidates for the steelers job. So we are going to run with that. The steelers know that Shula is their man, his interview was amazing, he's exactly what they are looking for, they are ready to move the process along...but nope!

To satisfy the rule, they must interview two minorities in person first. Even tho, in their mind, they already have their guy. So now they have to waste the time of two other individuals and the organization as well.

Now this scenario doesn't actually exist with the steelers, since they have had in person with Flores, and plan on Weaver, and if Scheelhaus gets an in person, but it DID with New England last year. Everyone and their brother knew it was Vrabel.

That's not progress, progress is teams actively pursuing coaches like Flores, Weaver, Scheelhaus, Saleh...which is happening. But FORCING it isn't helping anyone.
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The Steelers likely already know their next coach and are just going through the process. They may have even knew who they were going to hire before bringing in 8 other candidates...which there were some absolute duds on the list. However, it's interesting for a job with such high stakes can have such a quick process. There are lesser jobs with three rounds of interviews.

To your point, I bet the Giants and Falcons had Harbaugh and Stefanski at the top of their list from the start. If I had to guess, the Ravens probably wanted Minter and the Bills probably have a coach in mind already as well.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
I can see Deuce going low-risk and hiring McCarthy to keep the non-losing season streak going.
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If Rooney sees finding/developing a QB as a top priority, McCarthy could make "some" sense, even if it just as a 4-5 year bridge to another coach longer term.

If it's just to entice Rodgers to come back for another year or two, there would be no real justification for it.
 
Punxsutawney said:
If Rooney sees finding/developing a QB as a top priority, McCarthy could make "some" sense, even if it just as a 4-5 year bridge to another coach longer term.

If it's just to entice Rodgers to come back for another year or two, there would be no real justification for it.
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Could be an even shorter term solution. He helps groom someone to replace him while finding them a QB. Not my first choice but it would make some logical sense.
 
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