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Troglodyte said:
😂 Baseless? FFS Tim! Moronic is believing that your 60% figure has a basis. How? This should be good…
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The 60% does have a basis.
Whether for the illegals themselves or the children they spawn it really doesn’t matter.

Estimates suggest that approximately
59% to 61% of households headed by illegal immigrants use one or more major welfare programs, which is higher than the rate for U.S.-born households. This high utilization is primarily driven by U.S.-born children in the household who are eligible for benefits, rather than the illegal immigrants themselves.

Was that good?
 
Troglodyte said:
Lindsay Graham, Scot Bessent, Mike Johnson, Dennis Hastert. Jim Jordan, John Reid. Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Aaron Schock, George Santos and IndySteel would like to know WTF you’re talking about.

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WTF are you talking about Trog?

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And that was no 13 yr. old.
 
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Hypocycloids said:
The 60% does have a basis.
Whether for the illegals themselves or the children they spawn it really doesn’t matter.

Estimates suggest that approximately
59% to 61% of households headed by illegal immigrants use one or more major welfare programs, which is higher than the rate for U.S.-born households. This high utilization is primarily driven by U.S.-born children in the household who are eligible for benefits, rather than the illegal immigrants themselves.

Was that good?
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Yeah, but Floggy doesn't believe those numbers so that makes them untrue.
 
Badcat said:
First off, it wasn't 165 girls. It was 165 souls, MOSTLY girls. Do you see how you just erroneously mis-reported the facts on this matter? Yet, you want to call into question the validity of information from the intelligence community? How ironic.

Again, if you read my explanation on intelligence, it's not 100% data specific but rather an educated guestimate based on several factors. The very thing you're questioning and posing an argument, if you want to label it as such, against me falls in-line with what I've already explained to you. We're in agreement for the most part. The real disagreement is that I understand threat actors and how could they not take advantage of a wide-open boarder, free transportation to a city center, and given taxpayer funded accommodations and sustenance and your take that it's a big nothingburger and the Democratic party does nothing wrong? One side (me) makes a good theoretical probability based on my military background and you bury your head up your ***.
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Hey Floggy, don't ignore it as a matter of inconvenience.
 
Hypocycloids said:
The 60% does have a basis.
Whether for the illegals themselves or the children they spawn it really doesn’t matter.

Estimates suggest that approximately
59% to 61% of households headed by illegal immigrants use one or more major welfare programs, which is higher than the rate for U.S.-born households. This high utilization is primarily driven by U.S.-born children in the household who are eligible for benefits, rather than the illegal immigrants themselves.

Was that good?
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You’ve provided an estimate. What is the BASIS for that estimate?
 
Troglodyte said:
Lindsay Graham, Scot Bessent, Mike Johnson, Dennis Hastert. Jim Jordan, John Reid. Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Aaron Schock, George Santos and IndySteel would like to know WTF you’re talking about.

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then why don't you tell them?

and, further proof you don't read what you post:

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Troglodyte said:
You’ve provided an estimate. What is the BASIS for that estimate?
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Dear lord.
Now it’s come down to splitting hairs to avoid losing an argument.

Look it up yourself, but if I must take you by the hand…,

The claim that approximately 60% of illegal immigrant households are on welfare is primarily based on analysis of the U.S. Census Bureau's
Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP), conducted by the Center for Immigration Studies

Don’t tell me….you now want to know the basis of the SIPP estimate.
 
Hypocycloids said:
Dear lord.
Now it’s come down to splitting hairs to avoid losing an argument.

Look it up yourself, but if I must take you by the hand…,

The claim that approximately 60% of illegal immigrant households are on welfare is primarily based on analysis of the U.S. Census Bureau's
Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP), conducted by the Center for Immigration Studies

Don’t tell me….you now want to know the basis of the SIPP estimate.
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and ze will request the diversity employment ratio

just give ze a phone number and let zer ring 'em up

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I think the Iranian people are done being submissive to evil tyrants. This can be the best thing that's happened in the middle east in 50 years. I hope for it anyway.

I have a soft spot for any peaceful people who would desire to be free from horrible oppression.


They're willing to die for it. It reminds me of our beginning.


 
Badcat said:
Please explain how the two attacks could be pinned to your orange devil? This should be interesting.
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You'll have to chew on some peyote cactus to even get close to his logic,even then under massive hallucinations,your visions will not take you to that twisted place.
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Troglodyte said:
😂 Baseless? FFS Tim! Moronic is believing that your 60% figure has a basis. How? This should be good…
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I already provided one piece of evidence you refused to consume. So I'll post more that you'll refuse to consume...so you can continue to deny reality.AI Overview
Based on 2024–2025 data, approximately 59% to 61% of households headed by illegal immigrants use one or more major welfare programs, often on behalf of their U.S.-born children. While ineligible for most federal benefits, they access Medicaid, food assistance (SNAP/WIC), and tax credits (EITC), totaling roughly $42 billion in benefits.
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From the Center for Immigration Studies: "Our best estimate is that 51 percent of households headed by legal immigrants use at least one major welfare program. Among illegal immigrants, also called the undocumented, we estimate the rate is 61 percent."

From the House Budget Committee: https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf
Illegal immigrants are a net fiscal drain, meaning they receive more in government services than they pay in taxes. This result is not due to laziness or fraud. Illegal immigrants actually have high rates of work, and they do pay some taxes, including income and payroll taxes. The fundamental reason that illegal immigrants are a net drain is that they have a low average education level, which results in low average earnings and tax payments. It also means a large share qualify for welfare programs, often receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children. Like their less-educated and low-income U.S.-born counterparts, the tax payments of illegal immigrants do not come close to covering the cost they create.
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Illegal immigrants make extensive use of welfare. Based on government data, we estimate that 59 percent of households headed by illegal immigrants use one or more major welfare programs, compared to 39 percent of households headed by the U.S.-born
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“At the start of 2023, the net cost of illegal immigration for the United States – at the federal, state, and local levels – was at least $150.7 billion.”
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“Illegal immigration costs each American taxpayer $1,156 per year ($957 after factoring in taxes paid by illegal aliens).”
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“Each illegal alien or U.S.-born child of illegal aliens costs the U.S. $8,776 annually.”
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“We estimate that 59.4 percent of illegal immigrant households use one or more welfare programs. Compared to the U.S.-born, illegal-headed households use every program at statistically higher rates, except for SSI, TANF, and housing. Illegal immigrants have especially high use of cash (mainly the EITC), food programs, and Medicaid.”
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By all means, continue to argue that 60% of ILLEGAL aliens aren't on welfare.

Next, we will entertain your argument that Earth is indeed flat.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
I already provided one piece of evidence you refused to consume. So I'll post more that you'll refuse to consume...so you can continue to deny reality.AI Overview


From the Center for Immigration Studies: "Our best estimate is that 51 percent of households headed by legal immigrants use at least one major welfare program. Among illegal immigrants, also called the undocumented, we estimate the rate is 61 percent."

From the House Budget Committee: https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf








By all means, continue to argue that 60% of ILLEGAL aliens aren't on welfare.

Next, we will entertain your argument that Earth is indeed flat.
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Watch, now it’s back to ”Too much meaningless information”. - Trog
 
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Schumer. Pelosi is in the House. She probably doesn't like him much either though.
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to be fair, the only men Nancy likes are Jack, Jim, Johnny, Evan, Dom, Richard, Facundo and Sir Henry.
 
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