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Israel Is Bombing Iran

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Iran being crippled. Love it. Citizens need to rise up and overthrow those fools. Misery will trigger them to.
 
So, the Israelis just pulled off a brilliant military operation 10-20 years in the making as only they can do as master chess players, but yet they allowed their countrymen to be attacked for hours on October 7th before a response was mustered?

October 7th should be seen as part of the overall operation to expand the fight to Iran and its proxies. Sacrifices were made to expand the war beyond the shackles placed by Washington and Obama.

If you go back to Project for a New American Century in 1998, the neocon think tank argued that expanding American military might to a truly world posture after the post-Cold War contraction could take 30 years short of "a catalyzing event like Pearl Harbor." Three years later, 9/11 happened and wars were prosecuted in multiple Middle Eastern Countries.

October 7 was that catalyzing event. Government has no qualms about breaking some eggshells and its own citizens to make omelettes. Hard to believe the same government 10 steps ahead of its adversaries with blowing up pagers and luring layers of top brass into bunker death traps last week could really fumble that bad on October 7. Nope, ground was given to take more ground that otherwise would not have been possible.

Similarly, to borrow from Bill Cooper, if you believe the most sophisticated military intelligence apparatus in the history of the world could not find Osama Bin Laden but "one jerkoff CNN reporter with a camera crew" could walk into his tent and interview him, you've "got to be one of the stupidest jerks who ever walked the face of the earth." Cooper was predicting a terrorist attack on his program "The Hour of the Time" in 2000 that would be blamed on OBL, and perhaps not coincidentally Cooper was killed in 11/01 in a shootout with local Az law enforcement who lured him out of his house posing as loitering riff raff on his property.
 
SojournerSteel said:
So, the Israelis just pulled off a brilliant military operation 10-20 years in the making as only they can do as master chess players, but yet they allowed their countrymen to be attacked for hours on October 7th before a response was mustered?

October 7th should be seen as part of the overall operation to expand the fight to Iran and its proxies. Sacrifices were made to expand the war beyond the shackles placed by Washington and Obama.

If you go back to Project for a New American Century in 1998, the neocon think tank argued that expanding American military might to a truly world posture after the post-Cold War contraction could take 30 years short of "a catalyzing event like Pearl Harbor." Three years later, 9/11 happened and wars were prosecuted in multiple Middle Eastern Countries.

October 7 was that catalyzing event. Government has no qualms about breaking some eggshells and its own citizens to make omelettes. Hard to believe the same government 10 steps ahead of its adversaries with blowing up pagers and luring layers of top brass into bunker death traps last week could really fumble that bad on October 7. Nope, ground was given to take more ground that otherwise would not have been possible.

Similarly, to borrow from Bill Cooper, if you believe the most sophisticated military intelligence apparatus in the history of the world could not find Osama Bin Laden but "one jerkoff CNN reporter with a camera crew" could walk into his tent and interview him, you've "got to be one of the stupidest jerks who ever walked the face of the earth." Cooper was predicting a terrorist attack on his program "The Hour of the Time" in 2000 that would be blamed on OBL, and perhaps not coincidentally Cooper was killed in 11/01 in a shootout with local Az law enforcement who lured him out of his house posing as loitering riff raff on his property.
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Them ******* jews
 
Saw the IAF destroyed 2 F-14s at Tehran's Airport. I guess that leaves 2 less Maverick can steal in the Trilogy if he's downed over Iran.
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
Do you think regime change will improve things for the Iranian people and their neighbours? Or as so often happens will we discover that things can actually get worse?
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Iran is like night and day today vs when the Shah Of Iran was in power.

Radical Islam doesn't mesh with anyone who would be free.
 
Steelr4evr said:
Iran is like night and day today vs when the Shah Of Iran was in power.

Radical Islam doesn't mesh with anyone who would be free.
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Agreed but our record of regime change hasn't been too great. At least I haven't heard any major success stories coming out of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc. It seems like evil and corruption fills the power vacuum faster than decency.
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
Do you think regime change will improve things for the Iranian people and their neighbours? Or as so often happens will we discover that things can actually get worse?
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Do you mean like 2014 in Ukraine when the US backed the coup against the democratically elected government and over a million have died since?
 
JMM said:
Agreed but our record of regime change hasn't been too great. At least I haven't heard any major success stories coming out of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc. It seems like evil and corruption fills the power vacuum faster than decency.
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The last line in Charlie Wilson's War was perfect.

There is a nice air base in Kosovo. The place that Clinton bombed for 58 straight days in 98.
 
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KentuckySteeler said:
Iran being crippled. Love it. Citizens need to rise up and overthrow those fools. Misery will trigger them to.
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When has that ever actually worked? Look at the last 50 years.

Vietnam - foreign presence rallied together the Viet Cong and NVA
Afghanistan - intervention led to a bunch of American deaths and injuries and the Taliban being replaced by the Taliban
Iraq - intervention led to a bunch of American deaths and injuries and Sadaam Hussein's non-theocratic government being replaced by a theocracy that hates America
Libya - foreign backed regime change led to a quiescent Quadaffi being replaced by two rival religious factions vying to see who hates America more
United States - did getting attacked in 2001 cause Americans to "rise up" or band together?

The best way to see change in Iran is by leaving it alone and letting it change of its own accord. Arguably the only way slavery survives in the United States is by having England invade America to overthrow the government and impose abolition.
 
Steeltime said:
When has that ever actually worked? Look at the last 50 years.

Vietnam - foreign presence rallied together the Viet Cong and NVA
Afghanistan - intervention led to a bunch of American deaths and injuries and the Taliban being replaced by the Taliban
Iraq - intervention led to a bunch of American deaths and injuries and Sadaam Hussein's non-theocratic government being replaced by a theocracy that hates America
Libya - foreign backed regime change led to a quiescent Quadaffi being replaced by two rival religious factions vying to see who hates America more
United States - did getting attacked in 2001 cause Americans to "rise up" or band together?

The best way to see change in Iran is by leaving it alone and letting it change of its own accord. Arguably the only way slavery survives in the United States is by having England invade America to overthrow the government and impose abolition.
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Let them sort it out? Uh, no. They've said "death to America" for 45 years and now want Nukes. I hope then citizens of Tehran all get out and then they flatten Tehran like an IHOP pancake.
 
We don’t need to get involved with any kind of change in Iran, or anywhere else for that matter.

I am 1000% FOR leveling 75%+ of the country to prevent them developing and/or purchasing a nuclear weapon. After the damage is done we turn away from them and let them figure it out for themselves, as well as any rebuilding that needs to be done. We DO NOT get involved in rebuilding anything or giving financial aid at all. Their “leadership” caused the world to come crashing down, and if they make the same mistakes, it will come crashing down again.

I DO support dropping “humanitarian relief supplies” over the areas destroyed, like we did at the end of WW2. Air drops only, no landing of any kind. The first time one of those flights are fired upon the flights stop 100%.

It’s a mess of their own creation, they need to suffer the consequences.
 
KentuckySteeler said:
Let them sort it out? Uh, no. They've said "death to America" for 45 years and now want Nukes. I hope then citizens of Tehran all get out and then they flatten Tehran like an IHOP pancake.
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Or maybe Jimma Earle ****** it all up 45 years ago.
 
MT~Forged said:
We don’t need to get involved with any kind of change in Iran, or anywhere else for that matter.

I am 1000% FOR leveling 75%+ of the country to prevent them developing and/or purchasing a nuclear weapon. After the damage is done we turn away from them and let them figure it out for themselves, as well as any rebuilding that needs to be done. We DO NOT get involved in rebuilding anything or giving financial aid at all. Their “leadership” caused the world to come crashing down, and if they make the same mistakes, it will come crashing down again.

I DO support dropping “humanitarian relief supplies” over the areas destroyed, like we did at the end of WW2. Air drops only, no landing of any kind. The first time one of those flights are fired upon the flights stop 100%.

It’s a mess of their own creation, they need to suffer the consequences.
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They already have them because of Obama giving them so much money (our tax dollars) and Hillary selling them uranium via Russia. The Iranian citizens have fled and I say it’s time to end Iran. You can only threaten death to America for so many decades until someone with balls finally says **** you, you’re toast.
 
Steeltime said:
Afghanistan - intervention led to a bunch of American deaths and injuries and the Taliban being replaced by the Taliban
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So the brains behind the 9/11 attack by mostly Saudi nationals, the wicked relative of the Saudi family enriched by the Bush regimes, hid in Pakistan and the US response was to over-run Afghanistan because the NSA hadn't contrived WMD yet?
Steeltime said:
Iraq - intervention led to a bunch of American deaths and injuries and Sadaam Hussein's non-theocratic government being replaced by a theocracy that hates America
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And Saddam, friend of America for a long time, defender of the western front with Iran for decades, wanted his people to be better off by selling his oil to the world for Iraqi dinars rather than USD, so boom, WMD and his dead body literally gets dragged thru the streets medieval style.
Steeltime said:
Libya - foreign backed regime change led to a quiescent Quadaffi being replaced by two rival religious factions vying to see who hates America more
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And Moamar righted some of his wrongs, devoted his efforts to the betterment of his own people, wanted to sell Libyan oil for Libyan dinars and his dead body literally gets dragged thru the streets medieval style.
Steeltime said:
United States - did getting attacked in 2001 cause Americans to "rise up" or band together?

The best way to see change in Iran is by leaving it alone and letting it change of its own accord.
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Bomma sent them billions and then Trump mostly left them alone and then Sleepy Creepy sent them more billions (to make rockets to supply Hezbollah, Mouths, Hamas and Putin) for mullahs and uranium, and now Trump made deals with anyone who might support them so that the Israelis could fly unimpeded to blast rocks a mile above the nukes.
Steeltime said:
Arguably the only way slavery survives in the United States is by having England invade America to overthrow the government and impose abolition.
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