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It's time.

wig said:
At 5-8, Mike Tomlin is on death's door in terms of going from "never had a losing season" to "coached while Ben Roethlisberger never had a losing season".

So. Unleash Hell.
Get back to the lab.
Turn over stones.
Trot out that pedigree.
Don't live in your fears, (or Ben's shadow.)
Put it on tape.
Accept the reality.
Make some popcorn.

Whatever it is you need to do there Mike.
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Wiggy I agree with you 100%.
It’s long past due and should have been addressed after that terrible home playoff loss against Jacksonville with Blake Bortles.
Ya know I get the longevity thing and three coaches since 1969 and all that. That’s great and it certainly demonstrates loyalty and stability but there’s a negative to that as well.
You see it in the real world outside of the glitz of pro sports in every day business.
People in their jobs for years and they become too comfortable therefore complacent and very seldom open to new ideas and thoughts.
They become stale and their work is an example of it. I have seen this many times over the years in my profession. When I was working I traveled to different clients across the US and dealt with long time employees and that’s just what they become.
Terrified to try and learn new things. They hold onto what they’ve known and practiced for years and don’t try and pry that away from them.
To me that’s Tomlin to a tee. He knows what he’s always known and that’s his comfort level and he’s not changing.Therefore he like the folks I’ve come across over the years become very limited and stubborn. This is the bad side if keeping a coach for a long period of time.
It happened with Andy Reid in Philly. They both needed a fresh start and it worked out for both.
Now I’m not advocating to fire all old time employees I’ve worked with over the years, just making an analogy.
It’s time for Tomlin and the Steelers to start fresh. Good for both imo!
 
And now my bitter hands
Cradle broken glass
Of what was everything
All the pictures have
All been washed in black
Tattooed everything
All the love gone bad
Turned my world to black
Tattooed all I see
All that I am
All that I'll be, yeah
 
steelhurt said:
Wiggy I agree with you 100%.
It’s long past due and should have been addressed after that terrible home playoff loss against Jacksonville with Blake Bortles.
Ya know I get the longevity thing and three coaches since 1969 and all that. That’s great and it certainly demonstrates loyalty and stability but there’s a negative to that as well.
You see it in the real world outside of the glitz of pro sports in every day business.
People in their jobs for years and they become too comfortable therefore complacent and very seldom open to new ideas and thoughts.
They become stale and their work is an example of it. I have seen this many times over the years in my profession. When I was working I traveled to different clients across the US and dealt with long time employees and that’s just what they become.
Terrified to try and learn new things. They hold onto what they’ve known and practiced for years and don’t try and pry that away from them.
To me that’s Tomlin to a tee. He knows what he’s always known and that’s his comfort level and he’s not changing.Therefore he like the folks I’ve come across over the years become very limited and stubborn. This is the bad side if keeping a coach for a long period of time.
It happened with Andy Reid in Philly. They both needed a fresh start and it worked out for both.
Now I’m not advocating to fire all old time employees I’ve worked with over the years, just making an analogy.
It’s time for Tomlin and the Steelers to start fresh. Good for both imo!
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Excellent analogy.

I’m a Plumbing / HVAC company and way back when (late 70s/early 80s) I worked with these two plumbers side by side for the same company.

Fast forward to today and here they are working in same town as me but still doing 70s / 80s type plumbing.

I, obviously schooled and advanced as the time went by and (not a brag) I’m the company people call when the other guys can’t fix their mistakes.

I hear yas on the “old employee” who gets comfortable.

I’ve been saying, no hot seat talk on Tomlin = no chance of losing his job = complacency and that my friend is what we’ve got.



Salute the nation
 
steelhurt said:
Wiggy I agree with you 100%.
It’s long past due and should have been addressed after that terrible home playoff loss against Jacksonville with Blake Bortles.
Ya know I get the longevity thing and three coaches since 1969 and all that. That’s great and it certainly demonstrates loyalty and stability but there’s a negative to that as well.
You see it in the real world outside of the glitz of pro sports in every day business.
People in their jobs for years and they become too comfortable therefore complacent and very seldom open to new ideas and thoughts.
They become stale and their work is an example of it. I have seen this many times over the years in my profession. When I was working I traveled to different clients across the US and dealt with long time employees and that’s just what they become.
Terrified to try and learn new things. They hold onto what they’ve known and practiced for years and don’t try and pry that away from them.
To me that’s Tomlin to a tee. He knows what he’s always known and that’s his comfort level and he’s not changing.Therefore he like the folks I’ve come across over the years become very limited and stubborn. This is the bad side if keeping a coach for a long period of time.
It happened with Andy Reid in Philly. They both needed a fresh start and it worked out for both.
Now I’m not advocating to fire all old time employees I’ve worked with over the years, just making an analogy.
It’s time for Tomlin and the Steelers to start fresh. Good for both imo!
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Madden was spouting off on the radio (as I drove home from the gym) that Tomlin should be fired. About his lack of playoff wins and the ****** job he did this year coaching. He said Rooney is scared of him as Tomlin runs the roost.

Ol girl commented, "this year?"

😂
 
The only chance the Steelers have is if AR2 steps down, and the person taking over has the ability to see the real problems, and the intestinal fortitude to do something about them.
 
slashsteel said:
Madden was spouting off on the radio (as I drove home from the gym) that Tomlin should be fired. About his lack of playoff wins and the ****** job he did this year coaching. He said Rooney is scared of him as Tomlin runs the roost.

Ol girl commented, "this year?"

😂
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I don't doubt it. I've said for a couple years that the namesakes of the Rooney Rule will never fire their first Rooney Rule hire.
After each of the last three seasons Deuce claims he told Shades to make running game better. Yet the running game is worse and nothing changes. My boss tells me to get better at something and if I don't I'm out on my ***.
Never thought I'd say this but if they bring Canaduh back next year I'm going to take my football team a lot less seriously.
If they give Shades an extension without seeing a playoff win or two then they have become the Pirates and will no longer be must-see TV. If ownership doesn't care if the team wins, why should I?
Problem as I see it is that I'm sure Shades hears the talk that he won his championship with Cowher's team and gawdammit he wants to prove that he can build a Super Bowl winner. Except that's he's had 16 years to do it and never come close with his own people. Gonna take a lot of years with a lot of losing to move him out.
93.7 The Fan reported yesterday that Tomlin gets paid more than Andy Reid.
 
I think his contract is through 2024 season. If he were to step down, I would hope they don’t promote from. Within. I’d hope an outside hire and a complete coaching staff along with 33% of players EXADOSsss on outtA here.

The “culture” change and complete scheme change to get back to winning ways.

Maybe Art 2 steps down as well and lets Dan 2.0 run the show. Hopefully he is more like grandpa than his dad.



Salute the nation
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
no, "One"
cant do anything but lay here and wait to die.
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How about "Havester of Sorrow"?

Anger, misery...you'll suffer unto me.

You've turned this lie to truth.

Man, I know the song is about something way different, but those two lines describe Tomlin perfectly to me.
 
Drink IRON City said:
I think his contract is through 2024 season. If he were to step down, I would hope they don’t promote from. Within. I’d hope an outside hire and a complete coaching staff along with 33% of players EXADOSsss on outtA here.
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Tomlin got a long contract extension to provide him with a vote of confidence knowing there'd be a rough patch with a new quarterback under center. He's due for another extension after this season...

Who the heck are they going to promote from within? I guess Brian Flores is an an internal candidate, but that's it. This team needed a fresh set of eyes and had a chance to make big offseason moves with a new GM and OC. Instead they hand the job to Khan and kept Matt Canada.
 
I keep hoping Tomlin will turn into a great coach. Some of his accomplishments place him in pretty esteemed company, but it's hard for me to buy into him being great. I noticed in what I believe is a pretty recent press conference that he's shaved his head, or close to it. I would hate to throw in the towel now that he's gone full scare the white man.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
I'm watching 49ers. That's the way I want the Steelers to play defense
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And their qb was drafted dead last. WTF.

I'd shoot for them playing like the 2008 Steelers. That team was loaded with leadership,talent and the drive to be the very best.
 
With Shades so close to his first losing season the Tomlin Fan Club in the FB group are losing their minds. I actually had to block a MF’er last night. His panties were in such a twist it was cutting off circulation to his brain.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
With Shades so close to his first losing season the Tomlin Fan Club in the FB group are losing their minds. I actually had to block a MF’er last night. His panties were in such a twist it was cutting off circulation to his brain.
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Seems like the diehard supporters always want to exclude his playoff futility. For me that is why they play the game to win when it matters the most.
 
slashsteel said:
Seems like the diehard supporters always want to exclude his playoff futility. For me that is why they play the game to win when it matters the most.
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My favorite shot lately is “I’m old and not part of the participation trophy generation.”
 
Somehow there’s a disconnect between 15 straight win, err, non-losing seasons, and only 3 playoff wins in 12 years. All I got is that he benefited from having the Browns and Bengals in his division and as soon as he faces consistently good teams in the playoffs he gets beat. And 2 of those 3 playoff wins came against backup QB’s.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Since I’m one who always said that Shades won everything he won with Cowher’s team, I think it’s funny that he’ll have his first losing season the year after the last of Cowher’s players retired.
This amuses me.
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That Cowher player has been saving his *** for years
That Cowher player will likely get an average coach into the HOF for longest coat tail ride
 
Ron Burgundy said:
My favorite shot lately is “I’m old and not part of the participation trophy generation.”
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Neither was James Harrison. Ron, Thank You for defending reality on facebook.


Salute the nation
 
Fiji Mariner said:
That Cowher player has been saving his *** for years
That Cowher player will likely get an average coach into the HOF for longest coat tail ride
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Many times those “Cowher” players won INSPITE of, not because of.


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