Justin Fields Preseason Film Breakdown

[tapeANaspirin2it]

2 years? I thought they just have him for this season?

They can pick up the 5th year option next year. I think it would cost something like $25 Mil, but that could still be OK if the other QBs are a rookie and a 3rd string vet. Not ideal but it could be done if Fields shows enough promise this year that you want another year with him. They'd probably sign him to a better deal in that case.

 

[Lloyd]

Plenty of QBs developed later in careers. People forget that for most of NFL history QBs didn't even start until year 2 or 3. Free Agency and the salary cap changed everything.

Steve Young was awful with Tampa. He sat for years behind Montana.
favre got traded away by Atlanta.
Rodgers sat for years
Alex Smith took years to become a good NFL QB
Rich Gannon was a journeyman backup until he emerged as a top starter
Josh Allen was not very good his first 2 years

Jake Delhomme, Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner developed in NFL Europe

I can name a bunch more. It's not that QBs don't get better, it's that teams move on too quickly and they don't get chances. Lots of these high picks that lose their job just quit and go do TV or something else rather than keep plugging away as a backup. RG3 is a good example of that.

Fields is an elite talent and the steelers have 2 years to develop him while paying him peanuts. I'd rather put the effort into developing a talent like Field who could become a great player, than giving tons of reps to guys like Pickett or Mason whose ceiling is mediocre starter.

Then there's the endless list of losers who never made it; for every Steve Young I can give you 10 Ryan Leafs. Or, JaMarcus Russell, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Todd Blackledge, David Klingler, Dan McGwire, Cade McKown, Tim Couch, Jim Drunkenmiller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Vince Young, Tommy Maddox, J.P. Losman, Kyle Boller, Richard Todd, Tony Eason, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, Daunte Culpepper, Browning Nagel, Kenny Pickett, Rob Johnson, etc.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Then there's the endless list of losers who never made it; for every Steve Young I can give you 10 Ryan Leafs. Or, JaMarcus Russell, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Todd Blackledge, David Klingler, Dan McGwire, Cade McKown, Tim Couch, Jim Drunkenmiller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Vince Young, Tommy Maddox, J.P. Losman, Kyle Boller, Richard Todd, Tony Eason, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, Daunte Culpepper, Browning Nagel, Kenny Pickett, Rob Johnson, etc.

Dang, you really know your losers………………….. Have to admit, you are cleaning your post(s) up a bit.


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[slashsteel]

Dang, you really know your losers………………….. Have to admit, you are cleaning your post(s) up a bit.


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Typical cooch dumping on others to try to make himself look better. If he wants to see a real loser he should break out his cosmetic mirror and stare.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Then there's the endless list of losers who never made it; for every Steve Young I can give you 10 Ryan Leafs. Or, JaMarcus Russell, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Todd Blackledge, David Klingler, Dan McGwire, Cade McKown, Tim Couch, Jim Drunkenmiller, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Vince Young, Tommy Maddox, J.P. Losman, Kyle Boller, Richard Todd, Tony Eason, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, Daunte Culpepper, Browning Nagel, Kenny Pickett, Rob Johnson, etc.

Wait, you mean playing NFL QB is tough and most can't cut it? Let me jot that down.

 

[Punxsutawney]

Fields is an elite talent and the steelers have 2 years to develop him while paying him peanuts. I'd rather put the effort into developing a talent like Field who could become a great player, than giving tons of reps to guys like Pickett or Mason whose ceiling is mediocre starter.

Fields has next to zero chance of developing into a great player. I doubt all the QBs you listed ever struggled to read the field as much as he does.

Being a great athlete does not make one an elite QB talent on its own. There's much more to it than that.

Despite his limited ceiling, the Steelers may have been better off keeping Mason as the starter for the time being. It was the best the offense looked in years at the end of last season.

 

[slashsteel]

Fields has next to zero chance of developing into a great player. I doubt all the QBs you listed ever struggled to read the field as much as he does.

Being a great athlete does not make one an elite QB talent on its own. There's much more to it than that.

Despite his limited ceiling, the Steelers may have been better off keeping Mason as the starter for the time being. It was the best the offense looked in years at the end of last season.

I think they brought Wilson in for that playoff hump they have failed to get over. I don’t think they had confidence that Rudolph could provide that. So they brought in a QB that at least in the past has shown that he could provide that.

I guess we will see if they guessed right.

 

[Drink IRON City]

2 years? I thought they just have him for this season?

Me to, I didn’t think they chose his 5th year option.


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[Drink IRON City]

They can pick up the 5th year option next year. I think it would cost something like $25 Mil, but that could still be OK if the other QBs are a rookie and a 3rd string vet. Not ideal but it could be done if Fields shows enough promise this year that you want another year with him. They'd probably sign him to a better deal in that case.

Are you sure?

He was drafted in ‘21, so this is his 4th year and I didn’t think the STEELERS picked up his 5th year option.

Maybe I’m bezzaffled here?


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[Punxsutawney]

I think they brought Wilson in for that playoff hump they have failed to get over. I don’t think they had confidence that Rudolph could provide that. So they brought in a QB that at least in the past has shown that he could provide that.

I guess we will see if they guessed right.

They never had confidence in Rudolph to begin with, so that wouldn't be surprising.

They brought in Pickett and Trubisky to replace him after Ben retired, and he ended up grossly outperforming both of them when finally given a shot.

Because of that, I generally do not trust their ability to assess and handle the QB position.

I just don't see Wilson at this point in his career offering much more than Rudolph did last season, with Rudolph being a lot younger.

There are reasons why both the Seahawks and Broncos were willing to eat a lot of Wilson's salary to get rid of him.

 

[NormalJake]

They did not pick up 5th year optio on Fields or Harris.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

They can pick up the 5th year option next year. I think it would cost something like $25 Mil, but that could still be OK if the other QBs are a rookie and a 3rd string vet. Not ideal but it could be done if Fields shows enough promise this year that you want another year with him. They'd probably sign him to a better deal in that case.

They would have had to pick it up already I believe.

 

[TDX27]

The hard thing here is what happens with these two at the end of the season. If Wilson starts and plays well, he's getting a 2 or 3 year contract worth probably $30 to $40 million. That probably means Fields is gone. The Steelers need to walk a tight rope here as Fields is the QB out of the two that could be our QB for the next decade if he improves on a few things. Wilson is a stop gap as his best years are behind him and he may only have 2 or 3 good years left in the tank.

 

[slashsteel]

They never had confidence in Rudolph to begin with, so that wouldn't be surprising.

They brought in Pickett and Trubisky to replace him after Ben retired, and he ended up grossly outperforming both of them when finally given a shot.

Because of that, I generally do not trust their ability to assess and handle the QB position.

I just don't see Wilson at this point in his career offering much more than Rudolph did last season, with Rudolph being a lot younger.

There are reasons why both the Seahawks and Broncos were willing to eat a lot of Wilson's salary to get rid of him.

So hard to tell the course as I look at what other QBs accomplished past their prime. There is some success stories. And the Tomlin factor definitely is a concern too.

For me that is just it they had plenty of time to decide and then made their decisions. Now I expect results and so should the Rooneys.

 

[bigben]

Fields has next to zero chance of developing into a great player. I doubt all the QBs you listed ever struggled to read the field as much as he does.

Being a great athlete does not make one an elite QB talent on its own. There's much more to it than that.

Despite his limited ceiling, the Steelers may have been better off keeping Mason as the starter for the time being. It was the best the offense looked in years at the end of last season.

All the greatest QB's were far far from the best athletes on the field. Ever see Brady, ben, Manning etc run the ball? They have to play chess with the defense manage the game, put all the pieces together under the most pressure and most scrutiny. They also have to be able to bring the best out of the skill players, avoid injury, not turn the ball over. Hardest job on the field by a country mile.
Being a great athlete means very little for QB's.

 

[Punxsutawney]

All the greatest QB's were far far from the best athletes on the field. Ever see Brady, ben, Manning etc run the ball? They have to play chess with the defense manage the game, put all the pieces together under the most pressure and most scrutiny. They also have to be able to bring the best out of the skill players, avoid injury, not turn the ball over. Hardest job on the field by a country mile.
Being a great athlete means very little for QB's.

Ben was pretty athletic during the first half or so of his career, especially for his size, but your point is legit.

I'm just amazed how many people think Fields has a realistic chance of developing into a good QB, just because he is a great runner and can throw the ball a mile.

Four years in the league and he still cannot process the passing game at all.

When it comes to reading the field, Kordell Stewart was Peyton Manning compared to Fields.

 

[Steelmann]

They can pick up the 5th year option next year. I think it would cost something like $25 Mil, but that could still be OK if the other QBs are a rookie and a 3rd string vet. Not ideal but it could be done if Fields shows enough promise this year that you want another year with him. They'd probably sign him to a better deal in that case.

The Pittsburgh Steelers have declined the fifth-year option for former Chicago Bears quarterback Justin Fields, according to Ari Meirov.

The Bears traded Fields to the Steelers last month (in exchange for a 2025 conditional sixth-round pick) to pave the way for rookie quarterback Caleb Williams, who was selected with the first overall pick in 2024 NFL draft last Thursday.

It doesn’t come as a surprise that Pittsburgh declined the option as he’s not guaranteed to be the starter, and the fifth-year option would’ve paid Fields $25.6 million in 2025. He’s essentially a one-year rental, barring the Steelers re-signing him to a different deal.

Pittsburgh overhauled their quarterback room this offseason. Before trading for Fields, they signed free agent Russell Wilson, who’s the favorite to be the starter in 2024. But Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin did say Fields will have the chance to compete for the starting role.

If Fields does win the starting job and plays in 51 percent of the snaps this season, the conditional sixth-round pick that the Bears received for him will become a fourth rounder.



They certainly did not pickup his 5th year option.

 

[Lloyd]

They never had confidence in Rudolph to begin with, so that wouldn't be surprising.

They brought in Pickett and Trubisky to replace him after Ben retired, and he ended up grossly outperforming both of them when finally given a shot.

Because of that, I generally do not trust their ability to assess and handle the QB position.

I just don't see Wilson at this point in his career offering much more than Rudolph did last season, with Rudolph being a lot younger.

There are reasons why both the Seahawks and Broncos were willing to eat a lot of Wilson's salary to get rid of him.

To the boom, the verroom, the rip roar and kaboom. Put the white on that picket fence.

 

[Lloyd]

The Pittsburgh Steelers have declined the fifth-year option for former Chicago Bears quarterback Justin Fields, according to Ari Meirov.

The Bears traded Fields to the Steelers last month (in exchange for a 2025 conditional sixth-round pick) to pave the way for rookie quarterback Caleb Williams, who was selected with the first overall pick in 2024 NFL draft last Thursday.

It doesn’t come as a surprise that Pittsburgh declined the option as he’s not guaranteed to be the starter, and the fifth-year option would’ve paid Fields $25.6 million in 2025. He’s essentially a one-year rental, barring the Steelers re-signing him to a different deal.

Pittsburgh overhauled their quarterback room this offseason. Before trading for Fields, they signed free agent Russell Wilson, who’s the favorite to be the starter in 2024. But Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin did say Fields will have the chance to compete for the starting role.

If Fields does win the starting job and plays in 51 percent of the snaps this season, the conditional sixth-round pick that the Bears received for him will become a fourth rounder.



They certainly did not pickup his 5th year option.

They chose the "whickety whack, don't touch that." Pgh did NOT pick up the 5th year option, nope. As breezy as it was easy.

 

[Drink IRON City]

The Pittsburgh Steelers have declined the fifth-year option for former Chicago Bears quarterback Justin Fields, according to Ari Meirov.

The Bears traded Fields to the Steelers last month (in exchange for a 2025 conditional sixth-round pick) to pave the way for rookie quarterback Caleb Williams, who was selected with the first overall pick in 2024 NFL draft last Thursday.

It doesn’t come as a surprise that Pittsburgh declined the option as he’s not guaranteed to be the starter, and the fifth-year option would’ve paid Fields $25.6 million in 2025. He’s essentially a one-year rental, barring the Steelers re-signing him to a different deal.

Pittsburgh overhauled their quarterback room this offseason. Before trading for Fields, they signed free agent Russell Wilson, who’s the favorite to be the starter in 2024. But Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin did say Fields will have the chance to compete for the starting role.

If Fields does win the starting job and plays in 51 percent of the snaps this season, the conditional sixth-round pick that the Bears received for him will become a fourth rounder.



They certainly did not pickup his 5th year option.

I was pretty sure of that too !!!!

Thanks Steelmann



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[TDX27]

I guess Fields doesn't want to stick around. He put the rock on the ground once again. You'd think he would work on this every offseason yet he fumbles a lot every year. While he's watching Wilson run the O this year, he can get started on learning how to hold onto the ball. Geeez!

 

[Lloyd]

I guess Fields doesn't want to stick around. He put the rock on the ground once again. You'd think he would work on this every offseason yet he fumbles a lot every year. While he's watching Wilson run the O this year, he can get started on learning how to hold onto the ball. Geeez!

4 years in, still hasn't learned how not to fumble. Unreal.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

years later, 2nd iteration, still hasnt figured out he is retarded.