I would rather trade out down take jalen Collins with 1st rnd 2 pick then if nt Goldman is still available then him rnd 3 olb/de za@darius smith rnd 4 rb Langford then cb Rowe then load up on versatile tweeners at DT/de olb
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They had 2 games where Allen played over Thomas. Games 16 and 17. Then one game in the playoffs. This was Thomas' 2nd season and is generally considered by most to be the most growth of players in the NFL. If he can't start over a slow vet like Allen then something is wrong. Yes, he was hurt during the year. However the defense was 29th in net yards gained per pass, 28th in passing Tds, and 27th in passing yards. They were also 29th in average drive time.
I understand they wanted a vet playing but again this isn't Thomas' rookie year. Why not play the kid or at least give him a snap or two, if he is your future?
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Or Eli Harold, who was said to meet with the "whole organization."
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Even if they draft Collins doesn't solve any problems for us, like Thomas like Troy too short. Even old retread te's like Owen Daniels for the Ravens are killing us. We can not stop a tight end to save our *** not to mention tall receivers. we see a lot of double tight ends formations for a reason. We suk. Go back at look at the cheateriots game last year and give his bench time this season doesn't look like Thomas improved much. I'd rather convert howard jones, who is identical to kam chancellor when seattle drafted him, to safety rather than see another midget safety. And at 6-0 up against the big te's he is too short and he gets beat deep causes he carry too much weight. Mel can have him.
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Well, if he was a 5 star High School player then i better not watch his stiff hips, mediocre speed and poor coverage skills. He's a sure thing.
Here are the workout numbers
Collins
40 - 4.53
Vertical - 35"
Broad - 10'0
20 shuttle 4.33
Shamarko
40 - 4.42
Vertical 40.5
Broad 11' 01"
20 shuttle 4.26
bench - 28 reps
Shamarko is a much better athlete than Collins. Collins will be a good player for a team that needs a hard hitting run stuffer. Shamarko can also fill that role and has more upside.
Collins played more like a LB than a S for Bama. That is not what the steelers need on defense. They have guys who can do that. If they think they need that they can probably get Laron Landry as a free agent.
More importantly, Collins will not be the best player available at the steelers spot.
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Good question and I'm sure that we're not the only one's asking it. He's an ace on ST's and he showed skills as a rookie, what happened ? A recent article said the whole situation could be blamed on his lack of practice time due to injuries, young players who don't practice...don't play. I guess we'll have to wait and see this year.
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Maybe but Shazier maybe the better option if you're going to move a converted LB to safety...not saying that the team should do it.
Just because I'm a Bama fan doesn't mean that I will approve of the pick. Let's get that said first and foremost...
I still disagree because I've watched the kid play every week and while his "work out numbers" don't exceed Shamarko's - Landon has the heart of a lion and the ballhawk skills of ol' Ed Reed. Will he ever be Troy 2.0 - no, probably not; but, he will make some team very happy once he gets on the field.
I still stand by my belief - we need to move up and get QUALITY over QUANTITY this year...
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I was upset at the pick too. A short player with a concussion history and limited plays on the ball = a bad trade up. Cost us a 3rd round pick.
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Ed Reed? Collins had 5 INTs in 3 years at Bama. He's a hitter not a coverage safety. HIs price will be way too steep due to this being a weak Safety class.
I'd rather take a shot on a safety like Adrian Amos in the 3rd or 4th. He played CB and S and also returned kicks. He's not a great tackler but he's good in coverage and that's what i want in this draft. I've had enough of DBs who are great tacklers. How about some who are good in coverage.
I just don't see the value in Collins with a first round pick. I think he'll be gone anyway before the steelers pick because some team will need a hard hitting safety. He could go to the Vikes at 11. He'd be a perfect pair with Harrison Smith. He could go to Miami at 14.
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I think Shamarko did not play because Mitchell was also new. They didn't want 2 guys making mistakes.
The steelers made a significant investment in Shamarko. They traded up for him. When have they ever moved on from a player drafted that high without giving them a shot to play? I think this year is Shamarko's year to prove himself. I can see them taking a safety later in the draft but not a guy 1st or 2nd rounder to directly challenge him. Plus this draft is weak at Safety. Shamarko would probably be the 1st or 2nd safety off the board in this draft.
