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Let the finger pointing begin - Tomlin

We play 3 defensive linemen about 67% of the time this season, yet McLendon has only played 42% of the time.

So basically, for every two snaps McLendon plays he is REPLACED by someone for one play (i.e. he plays 2/3rds of all plays we have 3 down-linemen on the field).

The other 1/3rd seems to be part of rotation Tomlin/Lebeau have created and involves Heyward, Thomas, Keisel and Tuitt. I believe there is a rotation for the 2 down linemen sets too (probably a rotation of Heyward, Keisel and Tuitt).

It's an odd set up right now. Because Thomas is part of the NT rotation AND the DE rotation on 3-down linemen, he's getting 61.5% of defensive snap counts. I thought Thomas was on the way out, but last week vs. Cleveland he played his most snap counts (by percentage) of any game to date. That has a bit to do with how little nickle we played, but still. For a player I thought looked pretty bad on film, giving him MORE playing time doesn't make much sense to me.

Who knows.
 
We play 3 defensive linemen about 67% of the time this season, yet McLendon has only played 42% of the time.

So basically, for every two snaps McLendon plays he is REPLACED by someone for one play (i.e. he plays 2/3rds of all plays we have 3 down-linemen on the field).

The other 1/3rd seems to be part of rotation Tomlin/Lebeau have created and involves Heyward, Thomas, Keisel and Tuitt. I believe there is a rotation for the 2 down linemen sets too (probably a rotation of Heyward, Keisel and Tuitt).

It's an odd set up right now. Because Thomas is part of the NT rotation AND the DE rotation on 3-down linemen, he's getting 61.5% of defensive snap counts. I thought Thomas was on the way out, but last week vs. Cleveland he played his most snap counts (by percentage) of any game to date. That has a bit to do with how little nickle we played, but still. For a player I thought looked pretty bad on film, giving him MORE playing time doesn't make much sense to me.

Who knows.

Wasn't McClendon hurt?
 
Hmmmm....many here know that "rookies just don't start" in Coach LeBeau's defense. It's a fact.

Am I disputing that we should start McCullers and Tuitt? No - but, I don't think that your pointing your finger in the right direction...

That's gone out the window.. Shazier and Jarvis were rookie starters..

Concur 100% with Idioteque. Rookies start and/or get a lot of important playing time - Hampton, Bell, Timmons, Woodley, Jones, Shazier are examples.

Further, the idea that it is an acceptable strategy so say, "Oh, well, rookies don't start for Lebeau" is false. Completely false.

Rookies did not start a lot of times because (1) the Steelers had better players already in those positions and (2) the rookies were not going to be an upgrade the next season.

Neither is true in the case of an aged Kiesel at DE and the very poor play at NT now that Cam Thomas will replace an injured McClendon. The team is vastly better next year with McCullers and Tuitt getting playing time and improving, and replacing Kiesel (who will be out of the NFL) and McClendon (who should be a back-up on any decent team).

So, @#%& the "rookies don't start for Lebeau" nonsense. Enough of throwing 25% to 33% of the goddam rookie contract into the garbage. Let 'em play.
 
Wheaton's performance was a major concern. It isn't the lack of talent, but rather the idea that he didn't appear to be on the same page as Roethlisberger. You put Brown in those routes and he has eight or nine receptions and a touchdown. Something isn't translating right now from the practice field to the game field.

I was very high on Allen early in his career, but he never took that next step. His lack of development has been frustrating, but nothing was more painful to watch than when he just let a floater from Hoyer to fall into the receiver's hands and didn't even try to make a play on the ball until it was too late.

No words for Worilds. He is exactly what we all said. Dude showed up late to help earn a pay day, but is doing nothing to earn another one.
 
We play 3 defensive linemen about 67% of the time this season, yet McLendon has only played 42% of the time.

So basically, for every two snaps McLendon plays he is REPLACED by someone for one play (i.e. he plays 2/3rds of all plays we have 3 down-linemen on the field).

The other 1/3rd seems to be part of rotation Tomlin/Lebeau have created and involves Heyward, Thomas, Keisel and Tuitt. I believe there is a rotation for the 2 down linemen sets too (probably a rotation of Heyward, Keisel and Tuitt).

It's an odd set up right now. Because Thomas is part of the NT rotation AND the DE rotation on 3-down linemen, he's getting 61.5% of defensive snap counts. I thought Thomas was on the way out, but last week vs. Cleveland he played his most snap counts (by percentage) of any game to date. That has a bit to do with how little nickle we played, but still. For a player I thought looked pretty bad on film, giving him MORE playing time doesn't make much sense to me.

Who knows.

I know this: Cam Thomas sucks.

Might as well see what McCullers can offer, because there is no downside.


And as far as Tomlin's comments, it sounds like elevator music to me. McCain should have been starting weeks ago with Cortez back in the nickel/dime where he is somewhat capable. The guy was rated #100 out of 102 eligible cornerbacks (not sure what rankings they are, my dad told me about it), and that was BEFORE last week's debacle. How much worse does it have to get before Tomlin makes a move?
 
Why not go with a complete youth overhaul on D NOW? If it works we have experienced players near the end of the season, and seasoned vets to spot in. If it doesn't work, the season is effed anyway and we know about needing a wholesale flip of the roster very, very soon.

I'd suggest that the only reason Tomlin is using all the vets so much now is that he is fearful of losing his job going 5-11 with young guys. I don't think he believes this is a championship team at all -- more like he believes 8-8 gets him another year.
 
Why not go with a complete youth overhaul on D NOW? If it works we have experienced players near the end of the season, and seasoned vets to spot in. If it doesn't work, the season is effed anyway and we know about needing a wholesale flip of the roster very, very soon.

I'd suggest that the only reason Tomlin is using all the vets so much now is that he is fearful of losing his job going 5-11 with young guys. I don't think he believes this is a championship team at all -- more like he believes 8-8 gets him another year.

which should be a even bigger reason to get ri of the coach who is incapable of adjustments on a consistent basis.
 
Why not go with a complete youth overhaul on D NOW? If it works we have experienced players near the end of the season, and seasoned vets to spot in. If it doesn't work, the season is effed anyway and we know about needing a wholesale flip of the roster very, very soon.

I'd suggest that the only reason Tomlin is using all the vets so much now is that he is fearful of losing his job going 5-11 with young guys. I don't think he believes this is a championship team at all -- more like he believes 8-8 gets him another year.

.........which should be a even bigger reason to get rid of the coach who is incapable of good adjustments on a consistent basis.
 
I'd suggest that the only reason Tomlin is using all the vets so much now is that he is fearful of losing his job going 5-11 with young guys. I don't think he believes this is a championship team at all -- more like he believes 8-8 gets him another year.

You may well be right.

But if Tomlin believes he can stave off a 5-11 or, more likely, a 4-12 season for more than a year with his current approach, he is @#$%ing stupid.
 
Does it look as if Tomlin may be feeling eyes watching him closer. So we will start Wheaton project in the words of the coaches, did zero in preseason, had no idea how to GO catch a ball nd this is the answer.
 
Believe it or not Spike I totally forgot about him. Geez I'm getting old. You're right it maybe time. Let him play thru his mistakes can't be any worse then now. He brings a big body presence and might be what this offense needs. Cant believe I forgot about him.

Martavis Bryant is our last hope


amen
 
Cam Thomas has sucked and now will probably start. McCullers better get a lot of snaps.
 
Martavis Bryant is our last hope.

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"Help us, Martavis ... you're our last hope!!"
 
No wonder why the chargers gave up on cam thomas. Whaeton is lost. We have no other targets but antonio brown and miller. Lance moore has nothing. This front office/ coaching staff has missed terribly on talent evaluation, free agent evaluation, and drafting.
 
I would much rather see Lance Moore out there than Wheaton. Wheaton hasnt done squat since game 1 against the Browns. Besides the training camp reports everywhere that Wheaton is unstoppable I dont see what people see in this guy. Small receiver who doesn't have play making ability in the open field and cant seem to run routes or catch....my ideal #2.
 
I would much rather see Lance Moore out there than Wheaton. Wheaton hasnt done squat since game 1 against the Browns. Besides the training camp reports everywhere that Wheaton is unstoppable I dont see what people see in this guy. Small receiver who doesn't have play making ability in the open field and cant seem to run routes or catch....my ideal #2.

I see some potential, but sometimes that's where it starts and ends

I think they need to start turning the heat up in practice and start changing things up a bit (one can hope)
 
The first few games Wheaton looked pretty good. Not sure what has happened the last couple weeks tho...
 
What message would be sent to Ben, the vets and fans if Tomlin went with the youngins ? White flaggin it ? The vets want to know and believe the coach believes in them enough to try and salvage the season for a late season run. Bailing on them now sends a clear message. This **** is psychological. If youre gonna go with the youth movement, tell the players, tell the fans so we temper expectations and give vets that have free agency coming up the chance to consider options.
 
I would much rather see Lance Moore out there than Wheaton. Wheaton hasnt done squat since game 1 against the Browns. Besides the training camp reports everywhere that Wheaton is unstoppable I dont see what people see in this guy. Small receiver who doesn't have play making ability in the open field and cant seem to run routes or catch....my ideal #2.
They cut Moye from the practice squad. That should scare the **** out of the other WR's and get them to play better.
The Steelers play Monday night at home. They NEVER lose Monday nights at home (well, almost never). IF they lose Monday night at home there will be fingers pointing at Coach Cool Shades, fingers that mean a lot more than ours do.
 
While I always hate to watch the Steelers lose, I am ALMOST hoping for another beatdown of epic prorportions.

Maybe the powers that be do something with another huge loss.

Oh Hell, who am I kidding. There will be no changes until the end of MT's NEXT contract.
 
While I always hate to watch the Steelers lose, I am ALMOST hoping for another beatdown of epic prorportions.

Maybe the powers that be do something with another huge loss.

Oh Hell, who am I kidding. There will be no changes until the end of MT's NEXT contract.
the changes will be in the amount of merchandise sold and the empty seats in the stadium, they might be called MT seats
 
While I always hate to watch the Steelers lose, I am ALMOST hoping for another beatdown of epic prorportions.

Maybe the powers that be do something with another huge loss.

Oh Hell, who am I kidding. There will be no changes until the end of MT's NEXT contract.

no stones will be unturned

no not changes

after each loss that evening Tomlin will pout by kicking stones

(rinse repeat)
 
I dont understand what you saw in Moore, he was terrible in the Cleveland game with at least 3 drops.
I would give the rookie wr a shot over J. Brown and Moore.

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I would try Bryant in the red zone but in between the 20's Moore has almost been a reliable receiver.
 
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McClain in for Allen
 
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