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Look on the bright side

Had he had a great game, the same would be true… you really have to take everything the first couple of years with a grain of salt unless they are totally lost or lazy…
Absolutely. I’m not down on him just yet. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Hopefully as the season progresses, the game slows down for him and he’s able to see the open guys
 
Pickett is hesitant. As much as I blame Canada, Pickett had guys open and he didn’t see it.
Its tge same story when we play any good defense in the first half…and has been for years… I swear the coaching staff must threaten them with death over turnovers… yeah i get that you don’t want to turn the ball over, but overthinking it leads to just that… his footwork was off and he was totally overthinking throws…
he was playing scared…

Though I am still not entirely convinced that pickett wasnt hung over… he looked exactly like Ben did in that new years day detroit game his second year… we won, but he played like **** in a must win game… 🤣
 
one loss to start the season means nothing.....
Unless its Groundhog Day. This particular loss means a great deal.

Many prognosticators had our heroes lined up toe to toe with the 9ers. That is an accurate assessment at every position group. Our heroes stunk the place up in all three phases. The 9ers worked like a Swiss watch in all three phases. The difference is painfully obvious - Shanahan, a very bright coach, surrounds himself with the best and brightest. HCMT surrounds himself with castoffs and ne'er-do-wells that pose no threat to his self imagined coaching prowess. Any that did, he 'retired' only to return to coaching elsewhere. One won a Super Bowl. I digress.

If a head coach, whose responsibility it is to return on the investment the franchise has made in the on-field talent, cannot manage to field a decent performance from a team loaded with talent on opening day at home against a team that so closely mirrors them, he shouldn't be in the stadium for any reason. At least put up a fight. Not go buns-up-kneelin.

The **** show lies at his feet. That it happens year after year lies at ownership's feet. "Never a losing season' is a testement to mediocrity, nothing more. But we've beaten this dead horse to death so many times.
 
Meh, it's a game. There are lots of positives. TJ Watt had three sacks! He's amazing.

It's not like anybody should be surprised by this. Honestly, I can't remember last time the Steelers got a good early season start. It's been years.
 
So that’s the excuse? Pickett was hungover? I’ve seen that here and multiple Twitter threads. Maybe the guy just isn’t that good.

There’s no reason to believe he is. It’s not like he was lights out last season. He was borderline average. Seeing his play today isn’t really surprising if a person is being objective.

I can agree that Canada isn’t helping anything, but Pickett’s inaccuracy and missing reads isn’t new. He is very inconsistent. His problems today are the same problems he had last year.
 
So that’s the excuse? Pickett was hungover? I’ve seen that here and multiple Twitter threads. Maybe the guy just isn’t that good.

There’s no reason to believe he is. It’s not like he was lights out last season. He was borderline average. Seeing his play today isn’t really surprising if a person is being objective.

I can agree that Canada isn’t helping anything, but Pickett’s inaccuracy and missing reads isn’t new. He is very inconsistent. His problems today are the same problems he had last year.
The Pickett was drunk thing is definitely meant to be a joke… lol.. I really don’t think he is that kind of irresponsible guy…

The reality remains that he may be good or bad. Its way too early to make any conclusions yet and while people hate the idea that guys aren’t finished products super early in their careers, that’s true of more players than people realize.

Josh allen for his first two seasons was inaccurate and inconsistent. They dumbed down the offense for him. He started his second season with a game where he threw two bad picks and lost two fumbles… by season’s end a good portion of the fans and media were pushing for him to be traded… then things clicked.
Daniel jones was really good his rookie season… his sophomore season he took a huge step back and showed little growth his third season… which is why they didn’t pick up his 5th year… then he made great strides his fourth year and they ended up giving him that big contract
Marcus mariotta looked like a surefire star for his first two years… he is now a backup scrub…

I could go on and on and on…

This was absolutely a bad fundamental game from pickett, but he hasn’t had many of those kinds of games. Reading too much into it would be premature, just like if he has a bounceback game next week, it shouldn’t mean too much either…
The 9ers are a premier defensive team in the league and we came out with a really terrible plan to attack them..

It actually reminded me of the Bills game last year…
 
And none of that has anything to do with Kenny Pickett. I can appreciate that some guys take time, but Pickett has shown nothing that would lead anyone to believe he will be anything more than what he is right now. Clinging to what other guys did is fine if it makes you feel better about drafting a guy with one good year of college football in a mediocre conference in the 1st round, and then watching him flail around game after game hoping he somehow improves to Andy Dalton’s level of play.

On top of that, the Steelers brain trust has not shown they have any clue about developing a QB, and any chance Pickett has of being serviceable is fading every day he is playing for this coaching staff. They’ll ruin him for good long before they make him any better.

If you ask me, the next great Steelers QB isn’t on the roster. Hell, the next good Steelers QB isn’t on the roster.
 
And none of that has anything to do with Kenny Pickett. I can appreciate that some guys take time, but Pickett has shown nothing that would lead anyone to believe he will be anything more than what he is right now. Clinging to what other guys did is fine if it makes you feel better about drafting a guy with one good year of college football in a mediocre conference in the 1st round, and then watching him flail around game after game hoping he somehow improves to Andy Dalton’s level of play.

On top of that, the Steelers brain trust has not shown they have any clue about developing a QB, and any chance Pickett has of being serviceable is fading every day he is playing for this coaching staff. They’ll ruin him for good long before they make him any better.

If you ask me, the next great Steelers QB isn’t on the roster. Hell, the next good Steelers QB isn’t on the roster.
You and a few others have already stamped your opinion on Kenny. Which is fine.

But the process shows that we often don't know what we have until the third year.

What I find amusing in general is the Tomlin and Canada lovers are so quick to pull the cord on Kenny. Yet those guys have had three times the look ats.

Yeah I will say Kenny stunk it up game 1, and have it as it should be a wait and see. That is fair to him.
 
Unless its Groundhog Day. This particular loss means a great deal.

Many prognosticators had our heroes lined up toe to toe with the 9ers. That is an accurate assessment at every position group. Our heroes stunk the place up in all three phases. The 9ers worked like a Swiss watch in all three phases. The difference is painfully obvious - Shanahan, a very bright coach, surrounds himself with the best and brightest. HCMT surrounds himself with castoffs and ne'er-do-wells that pose no threat to his self imagined coaching prowess. Any that did, he 'retired' only to return to coaching elsewhere. One won a Super Bowl. I digress.

If a head coach, whose responsibility it is to return on the investment the franchise has made in the on-field talent, cannot manage to field a decent performance from a team loaded with talent on opening day at home against a team that so closely mirrors them, he shouldn't be in the stadium for any reason. At least put up a fight. Not go buns-up-kneelin.

The **** show lies at his feet. That it happens year after year lies at ownership's feet. "Never a losing season' is a testement to mediocrity, nothing more. But we've beaten this dead horse to death so many times.
it still means nothing

the way a team plays week one is not indicative of how they will be playing week 17 and beyond.

they **** the bed yesterday

you shake it off and move on

hopefully to improved play
 
You and a few others have already stamped your opinion on Kenny. Which is fine.

But the process shows that we often don't know what we have until the third year.

What I find amusing in general is the Tomlin and Canada lovers are so quick to pull the cord on Kenny. Yet those guys have had three times the look ats.

Yeah I will say Kenny stunk it up game 1, and have it as it should be a wait and see. That is fair to him.
In my opinion Tomlin and Co. Could have everything they could possibly want and they would still **** it up.
I cannot imagine anyone saying Kenny was anything but terrible yesterday. But is he in charge of the run blocking? The pass blocking early when they were bringing heat? The run defense? The pass defense? Pressley Harvins punting?
 
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In my opinion Tomlin and Co. Could have everything they could possibly want and they would still **** it up.
Mainly because they are stuck in their ways and refuse to adjust pregame, during, and postgame.
 
I fell into the solid draft and solid depth additions but started to fall back to earth with the OC and DC being retained.

Now I am painfully seeing this is just another mediocre installment of 1 or 2 wins over .500 and a first round playoff loss if that.

I just wonder how many seasons of lowering those ceiling of expectations until the roof collapses.

So time for the substandard standard of enjoying the wins but not expecting much beyond that.
This!

The problem still remains the coaching. Don't have to look any farther than the fact that nobody (that I can think of or remember) from Tomlin's hires have gone on to do anything in this league. I don't know if this is Tomlin's issue, if ownership is not letting him spend money or what the issue is but we haven't had a good OC or DC in a while. I am sure there are a lot of moving parts to all this that I don't know about. However one thing that i believe is true with Tomlin's legacy that he will be remembered for is that he has had a lot of talent over the years and just has not been able to extract the best out of his teams. Its perplexing cause the year Ben got hurt it seemed like he was able to do just that, yet when he has had the deck stacked in his favor he seems to crumble.

Yes the Niners are very good team. Losing sucks and you can't be too doom and gloom when it comes to losing to a very good team. The problem is it seems like more of the same. Not prepared, poor game planning, not playing to the teams strengths, rehashed and retread of the same Offensive and Defensive schemes that don't seem to work. For the life of me I still don't understand why we can't hire some good coordinators.
 
it still means nothing

the way a team plays week one is not indicative of how they will be playing week 17 and beyond.

they **** the bed yesterday

you shake it off and move on

hopefully to improved play
Still plenty of football. The team can and hopefully improves.


Tomlin’s trends have been here for 10 years which is where I see doubt/anxiety amongst fans.
 
Burrow played like crap. But he didn't get "benched" Lol. They took him out to protect him after the game was out of hand. There's a big difference.
 
It's fine to say you lost to a good team. Maybe even a great team. But if you're going to be a good team shouldn't you beat teams like that more often?
 
It's fine to say you lost to a good team. Maybe even a great team. But if you're going to be a good team shouldn't you beat teams like that more often?
They are a mediocre team and under the current coaches that won't change. I don't worry about who is good or great I am more concerned that no matter what players come in they can't coach em up to at least competitive. Eagles, Bills, KC, and Niners make the Steelers look like a junior varsity coached team.

Every year a different embarrassing game yet a few still want to blindly blame the players. No it isn't the players when you only put up 7 points. It isn't the players when you give up 30. It is a ****** scheme and ****** X and O coaches. Fans deserve better than this **** show.
 
And none of that has anything to do with Kenny Pickett. I can appreciate that some guys take time, but Pickett has shown nothing that would lead anyone to believe he will be anything more than what he is right now. Clinging to what other guys did is fine if it makes you feel better about drafting a guy with one good year of college football in a mediocre conference in the 1st round, and then watching him flail around game after game hoping he somehow improves to Andy Dalton’s level of play.

On top of that, the Steelers brain trust has not shown they have any clue about developing a QB, and any chance Pickett has of being serviceable is fading every day he is playing for this coaching staff. They’ll ruin him for good long before they make him any better.

If you ask me, the next great Steelers QB isn’t on the roster. Hell, the next good Steelers QB isn’t on the roster.
I understand your concerns, but Pickett has shown some promise. After the bye last year Pickett played almost mistake free. The team led the league and long drives and TOP. He was also the best QB in the NFL during the preseason. He was accurate and decisive. There was no doubt he was very bad today, but im going to chalk it up to nerves and the SF D. I will give Pickett and the offense 3 games to get sorted out or at least look like an NFL offense. After that I will start to worry.
 
Coach Tomlin has done worse with better teams, this season start is no surprise.

It’s one game and I hope like hell the TEAM (including coaching staff) can rebound and put forth a way better effort. YES, I said effort. The 9’ersw showed effort, we showed lack of & some undisciplined actions.


Salute the nation
 
It's not like anybody should be surprised by this. Honestly, I can't remember last time the Steelers got a good early season start. It's been years.

Actually, it's only been three years -- in 2020, the Steelers started the season 11-0. Of course, they then lost four out of five and got embarrassed by Baker Mayfield and the Cleveland Browns in the wild card round.

But that's another story. Talk about fool's gold.
 
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