Michael Moore Explains Why TRUMP Will Win!

[wig]

The fact is, Moore is absolutely correct.

Trump has touched a very fundamental nerve in the American psyche. "We're as mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore." I believe truly that Americans are losing faith rapidly in our government. The corruption and liberties taken by our politicians have worn very very thin with the people and they simply don't believe in the system anymore.

If not this election, then the next will be a true tipping of the iceberg. If Hillary does win, she MUST have a truly successful candidacy and she MUST make Americans feel as though she's made some progress AT HOME. Otherwise her presidency must be viewed as a failure. In fact whoever wins must make significant strides on the domestic front, or this presidency will be a complete failure.

This is a HUGE election.

 

[Steeltime]

This is a HUGE election.

Concur.

Clinton made a surge when the "kitten grabbing" allegations arose, but those are now backpage stuff.

I am waiting to see what Hillary's biggest supporters - CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, LAT, Chicago Tribune, and on and on - unveil the Friday before the election.

 

[Spike]

True the Vote Offers Smartphone App to Report Voter Fraud

True the Vote has released a smartphone app that allows users to report voter fraud and irregularities.

VoteStand, available for both iPhone and Android users, is advertised to be the “first online election fraud reporting app” available to voters across the country “to quickly report suspected election illegalities as they happen,” according to True the Vote. The free app operates much like a social network where users can send updates about polling place issues, voter intimidation attempts and others to identify problem areas. VoteStand incidents can take the form of text or photo reports, geotagged to the user’s location.

http://www.votestand.com/

 

[IndySteel]

That app is racist.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

If not this election, then the next will be a true tipping of the iceberg. If Hillary does win, she MUST have a truly successful candidacy and she MUST make Americans feel as though she's made some progress AT HOME. Otherwise her presidency must be viewed as a failure. In fact whoever wins must make significant strides on the domestic front, or this presidency will be a complete failure.

That's why I thought in 2008 that she would make a better President than Bomma since she would have at least had some competitive instinct to have as good an economy under her watch as it was with Slick Willie in the 90's. Granted, Slick benefited from some lucky timing, but still. Now 16 years later, ehh, probably not so much.

 

[Spike]

Bill forgets Hillary's campaign slogan - haa hahahah

Groin together?



Like, with interns?

 

[Stryker]

Steeltime, I'm not deriding the quality of our healthcare. I'm deriding not only the cost, or overcost of our healthcare, paired with insurance companies that can drop you and send your family into bankruptcy at the onset of a major illness.

Healthcare insurance is the worst offender followed by pharmaceutical price fixing.

 

[Steeltime]

Steeltime, I'm not deriding the quality of our healthcare. I'm deriding not only the cost, or overcost of our healthcare, paired with insurance companies that can drop you and send your family into bankruptcy at the onset of a major illness.

Healthcare insurance is the worst offender followed by pharmaceutical price fixing.

But as I have noted several times on this forum, Cope, the advent of modern-day health insurance is the reason why health care costs are so high. Specifically, when the insurer pays "x" for the service, then the medical provider can also charge the consumer "y" - the amount that the consumer was always willing to pay for the medical care.

That effectively drives up health care costs, particularly where preventative care is covered. The analogy is that homeowner's insurance covers against a fire or burglary, but does not pay to have the lawn mowed. If it did, the price of lawn care would explode.

Health insurance costs are also driven up by the ridiculous rates paid for Medi-Care and health care for the poor and uninsured. Specifically, the health care providers have to make "x" dollars to keep the doors open. Hospitals are required to take in patients to emergency rooms, insured or not. The health care providers make up the difference by charging much more to the insured patients, and to cover the losses incurred in providing care to Medi-Care patients. The health care insurer is simply paying what the medical provider demands, to be able to continue providing medical care.

As it now stands, basically 90 million Americans - the retired, the disabled, and the poor and uninsured - receive medical care at the expense of the other 275 million Americans. Therefore, the costs for the medical insurance (covering the 275 million, but paying for medical care for 365 million) are driven up by these economic facts, and not by mercurial, heartless insurance companies.

 

[POP]

Voter fraud gives Clinton the win. Nothing else matters.

 

[wig]

First off Pop, some instances of potential voter fraud have already been reported in parts of Texas. This is causing waves and will alert the Trump camp to warn people to be very cautious about their votes. Furthermore it will provide reasonable justification should the Trump camp want to question the results in key states with those machines provided by "Soros-owned interests".

Finally, even if Clinton does win - which admittedly is likely, this election ultimately is a no win scenario for her. There is simply no way she can walk away from all the **** that's been stirred up without looking like hell. And the odds that she can have a successful term are ridiculously small. There is no question whatsoever that a huge portion of the American people will NEVER accept the results of a Hillary win. They will ALWAYS believe the election was fixed and that she cheated, scammed and lied her way to the presidency and ultimately that she does not represent the American people.

It's a hell of a way to become president, with a minority of the country actually believing you are in fact their leader. In truth, the majority of the country simply will not recognize her as the president. She'll simply be sitting in a chair. Ultimately she will have had more power and respect as the first lady.

 

[Troglodyte]

The health care insurer is simply paying what the medical provider demands, to be able to continue providing medical care.

Not quite. Each insurer negotiates a rate (usually a % >100% of what Medicare pays). Healthcare providers get paid different amounts for the same service depending on the insurance. "Payor Mix" determines profitability.

 

[Spike]

speaking of predictions



Donald Trump will win, says top forecaster

Hillary Clinton’s confidence could cost her the US presidency, according to a leading American political scientist who claims that Donald Trump is on course to win the US election in 12 days.

The warning comes amid concerns from the Clinton campaign team that voter turnout will yet prove critical, despite many polls suggesting that the Democratic candidate is ahead of her Republican rival.

The latest results from the poll considered to have most accurately predicted the results of the last three elections, by IBD/TIPP, suggest that Ms Clinton may have a lead of just 0.6 per cent over Mr Trump, with 41.8 per cent backing the former US Secretary of State compared with 41.2 per cent for Mr Trump.

In Florida, a key state for signalling the winning candidate in previous elections, Mr Trump may be ahead of Clinton, with 45 per cent compared with 43 per cent for his opponent, according to a Bloomberg Politics poll released yesterday.

Professor Helmut Norpoth, from the Department of Political Science at Stony Brook University in New York, has correctly predicted the past five US presidents.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/world/not-yet-donald-trump-will-win-says-top-forecaster/

 

[Stryker]

But as I have noted several times on this forum, Cope, the advent of modern-day health insurance is the reason why health care costs are so high. Specifically, when the insurer pays "x" for the service, then the medical provider can also charge the consumer "y" - the amount that the consumer was always willing to pay for the medical care.

That effectively drives up health care costs, particularly where preventative care is covered. The analogy is that homeowner's insurance covers against a fire or burglary, but does not pay to have the lawn mowed. If it did, the price of lawn care would explode.

Health insurance costs are also driven up by the ridiculous rates paid for Medi-Care and health care for the poor and uninsured. Specifically, the health care providers have to make "x" dollars to keep the doors open. Hospitals are required to take in patients to emergency rooms, insured or not. The health care providers make up the difference by charging much more to the insured patients, and to cover the losses incurred in providing care to Medi-Care patients. The health care insurer is simply paying what the medical provider demands, to be able to continue providing medical care.

As it now stands, basically 90 million Americans - the retired, the disabled, and the poor and uninsured - receive medical care at the expense of the other 275 million Americans. Therefore, the costs for the medical insurance (covering the 275 million, but paying for medical care for 365 million) are driven up by these economic facts, and not by mercurial, heartless insurance companies.

I agree 100% about insurance companies. The only true way to change healthcare for the better, is to eliminate them. Take out the middleman and have universal healthcare.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Moore is now out there saying the video was edited and cut off early before the part where he calls Trump voters morons or whatever, but he's still spot on why blue collar people are backing him. Moore himself leaves out the part about why the economy still sucks eight years after Liberal icon Bomma became President.

 

[Steelin]

Moore himself leaves out the part about why the economy still sucks eight years after Liberal icon Bomma became President.

It's all of the Republican obstructions duh...

 

[Spike]

more predictions



AI system finds Trump will win the election and is more popular than Obama in 2008

An artificial intelligence (AI) system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race to the White House.

The AI system was created in 2004, so it has been getting smarter all the time. It had already correctly predicted the results of the Democrat and Republican Primaries.

Data such as engagement with tweets or Facebook Live videos have been taken into account. The result is that Trump has overtaken the engagement numbers of Barack Obama's peak in 2008 – the year he came into power – by 25 percent.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/dona...pular-than-obama-in-2008-ai-system-finds.html