Midseason positives

[Drink IRON City]

Najee was drafted at minimum 1 round to early, I’d preferred 3rd round.

He didn’t live up to the 1st round pedigree, but he also didn’t have much of an offensive line and by far the worse OC in league history. That is a lot going against him.

Creed Humphrey would have made a bigger impact at second round pick than what Najee made as a 1st rounder.

Again, he couldn't control where he was picked.

We got 4 injury free years out of him and in a lucky way, we missed his season ending injury status.



Salute the nation

 

[Coryea]

I'm not sure how anyone drinks any kind of Lite Beer, WTF, might as well just drink some rain water.

Positives/Negatives make no difference anymore to me, we were 10-3 last year and bombed out when we faced good teams. I'm not sold on NE or Indy being that great, we did beat them so it's better than losing but it took 11 turnovers in those two games to squeak by them both.
The good teams usually slowly rise to the top, last year KC was in 1 score games no matter who they played.
The playoffs are still going to go through Allen and Mahomes, whether that be in Buffalo or KC, or them on the road, and we aren't beating them in a playoff game, we got stomped out by Jackson last year.

This is starting to remind of 2020 when we started 11-0, the offense wasn't pushing the ball downfield at all, but putting up decent points because of all the turnovers the D generated, the defense had something like 24 turnovers through 11 games, once the turnovers stopped and teams were taking all the quick passes away, there went the wins.

 

[Punxsutawney]

The Steelers have spent a lot of draft picks on DBs, but not a lot of draft capital. Only JPJ and Minkah were acquired with high value picks. The rest since 2020 have been day 3. The results match the investment.

True, but they still have used high picks on two of their top 4 DBs, considering they basically swapped Minkah for Ramsey. It's not like they've totally neglected the secondary from a draft capital standpoint.

We just have about a decade now of the Steelers shooting blanks when it comes to it; sufficient sample size to conclude that Tomlin sucks at it, regardless of the GM he works with.

Even Minkah regressed pretty much every year after the incredible debut season he had with the Steelers in 2019. He was still decent, just not what he was at the beginning.

Porter is better than Artie Burns, Sean Davis or Terrell Edmunds ever were, but that isnt saying a lot, to be honest.

 

[Punxsutawney]

I'm not sure how anyone drinks any kind of Lite Beer, WTF, might as well just drink some rain water.

Positives/Negatives make no difference anymore to me, we were 10-3 last year and bombed out when we faced good teams. I'm not sold on NE or Indy being that great, we did beat them so it's better than losing but it took 11 turnovers in those two games to squeak by them both.
The good teams usually slowly rise to the top, last year KC was in 1 score games no matter who they played.
The playoffs are still going to go through Allen and Mahomes, whether that be in Buffalo or KC, or them on the road, and we aren't beating them in a playoff game, we got stomped out by Jackson last year.

This is starting to remind of 2020 when we started 11-0, the offense wasn't pushing the ball downfield at all, but putting up decent points because of all the turnovers the D generated, the defense had something like 24 turnovers through 11 games, once the turnovers stopped and teams were taking all the quick passes away, there went the wins.

In fairness to the offense, in their two highest scoring games this season against the Jets and Bengals, they did not benefit much from turnovers. I know it's the Jets and Bengals, but they also scored 25 against the Packers with little help from the defense.

The Steelers are still overly dependent on turnovers, but one difference is that Rodgers is a better QB than 2020 Ben or 2024 Russ, IMO.

Rodgers didn't blow up his throwing elbow in his late 30s like Ben did and his legs are still strong enough to both buy time and play from under center.

Ben couldn't or wouldn't dropback from center his last several years and couldn't elude the rush much at all.

Russ just cannot consistently pass over the middle of the field anymore. It was probably never a strength of his, but has become more of a weakness as he has gotten older and cannot make as many plays with his legs.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

German beer > American beer

100% agree

Luckily our drummer works at a brewery so I get all the fresh craft beer I could desire and even get to ask as a test audience for perspective new additions to the lineup

Budweiser products are simply awful as is that crap made up in Boston, can’t stand Sammy Adams either

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Najee was drafted at minimum 1 round to early, I’d preferred 3rd round.

He didn’t live up to the 1st round pedigree, but he also didn’t have much of an offensive line and by far the worse OC in league history. That is a lot going against him.

Creed Humphrey would have made a bigger impact at second round pick than what Najee made as a 1st rounder.

Again, he couldn't control where he was picked.

We got 4 injury free years out of him and in a lucky way, we missed his season ending injury status.



Salute the nation

Creed!!!

Will forever live on in Steeler draft lore for grabbing Najee and Muth while passing on the guy many wanted twice.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

German beer > American beer

Pretty much any beer, apart from Fosters, is better than American beer (apart from Texas red ales and Yuengling lager, the real lager that is, not the light one)

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

We got 4 injury free years out of him and in a lucky way, we missed his season ending injury status.

If Najee Harris was a Steeler he doesn't suffer that injury. If he was a Steeler he isn't on that particular piece of ground, in that particular formation, making the specific movements he was making that lead to the injury. Of course he could have suffered a similar or some other injury if he was a Steeler, but then so could any player.

 

[Litos]

Pretty much any beer, apart from Fosters, is better than American beer (apart from Texas red ales and Yuengling lager, the real lager that is, not the light one)

I was very dissapointed with English beers. After Germans, Italians are amazing too

 

[bermudasteel]

Bull-**** with your” no and stop” crap. Good lord. I have no idea who you think you are. If he wasn’t from Alabama you wouldn’t give a flying ****. You were the one going on and on and on that we should draft him. And then throughout his career making excuse after excuse after excuse after excuse for his career. You were wrong. Get over it.
If that’s what you think the supposed #1 running back using your first round pick’s career should be that’s your prerogative. I have higher expectations.
“ No and Stop”……sounds exactly like what happened most of the time when he plowed into the defensive line.

No. Stop.

LMAO. LIGHTEN UP, SUNSHINE...

 

[WindyCitySteel]

I'm not sure how anyone drinks any kind of Lite Beer, WTF, might as well just drink some rain water.

Positives/Negatives make no difference anymore to me, we were 10-3 last year and bombed out when we faced good teams. I'm not sold on NE or Indy being that great, we did beat them so it's better than losing but it took 11 turnovers in those two games to squeak by them both.
The good teams usually slowly rise to the top, last year KC was in 1 score games no matter who they played.
The playoffs are still going to go through Allen and Mahomes, whether that be in Buffalo or KC, or them on the road, and we aren't beating them in a playoff game, we got stomped out by Jackson last year.

This is starting to remind of 2020 when we started 11-0, the offense wasn't pushing the ball downfield at all, but putting up decent points because of all the turnovers the D generated, the defense had something like 24 turnovers through 11 games, once the turnovers stopped and teams were taking all the quick passes away, there went the wins.

This team feels like a mirage fueled by timely turnovers and red zone offense. For the vast majority of most games, they seem to get outplayed.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

German beer > American beer

Maybe American macro-brew, American micro-brews stack up to anything in the world.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

Pretty much any beer, apart from Fosters, is better than American beer (apart from Texas red ales and Yuengling lager, the real lager that is, not the light one)

If you live in Australia, all you get is our macro-brew exports, which suck. Similarly, all we get here from down under is Fosters.

American micro-brews are better than anything I’ve had overseas. When I’m in a bar and I hear someone with a foreign accent order a Bud Light, I intervene and pull out my pulpit. They always thank me.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

If you live in Australia, all you get is our macro-brew exports, which suck. Similarly, all we get here from down under is Fosters.

American micro-brews are better than anything I’ve had overseas. When I’m in a bar and I hear someone with a foreign accent order a Bud Light, I intervene and pull out my pulpit. They always thank me.

I've been to the United States 12 times in the last 20 years, so my experience of American beers is not limited to macro-brew exports. We also do get some micro brews from America in Australia at Taphouses and a rock and metal club I used to frequent (unfortunately now closed down as it was in the path of a new underground railway line) which had a continuously changing roster of craft beers/micro-brews from all over the world (including America).

PS the emoji at the end my comment should have told you I was at least partly **** stirring on the reputation of the aforesaid macro-brews.

 

[Coryea]

In fairness to the offense, in their two highest scoring games this season against the Jets and Bengals, they did not benefit much from turnovers. I know it's the Jets and Bengals, but they also scored 25 against the Packers with little help from the defense.

The Steelers are still overly dependent on turnovers, but one difference is that Rodgers is a better QB than 2020 Ben or 2024 Russ, IMO.

Rodgers didn't blow up his throwing elbow in his late 30s like Ben did and his legs are still strong enough to both buy time and play from under center.

Ben couldn't or wouldn't dropback from center his last several years and couldn't elude the rush much at all.

Russ just cannot consistently pass over the middle of the field anymore. It was probably never a strength of his, but has become more of a weakness as he has gotten older and cannot make as many plays with his legs.

I'm not sure about that, Ben did throw 55 TD's his final two seasons, with 20 INT's, Rodgers has 36 TD's and 18 INT's last year and this season combined. Rodgers is on pace to throw for less yards than Ben did his final two seasons. The Oline Ben had his final season was criminal to put him behind, this Oline looks like early 90's Cowboys Oline compared to that one, and they didn't bring in a 150 million dollar WR for him to throw to.
The game last night showed Rodgers wants no parts of getting hit and becomes very inaccurate when he's rattled.

 

[steel dino]

100% agree

Luckily our drummer works at a brewery so I get all the fresh craft beer I could desire and even get to ask as a test audience for perspective new additions to the lineup

Budweiser products are simply awful as is that crap made up in Boston, can’t stand Sammy Adams either

Yes, don’t like their light beer.
However, I do enjoy a regular King of Beers occasionally..

 

[Punxsutawney]

The game last night showed Rodgers wants no parts of getting hit and becomes very inaccurate when he's rattled.

No QB likes getting hit, and it gets worse the older they get.

Ben played really well during that 11-0 start coming back from the elbow injury, but he wasn't quite what he was prior and he faded down the stretch with the rest the team and it carried over into his last season.

He drove fans crazy with all the premature 2 yard checkdowns on 3rd downs that last year.

I know the line sucked, but sometimes a QB needs to try to stand in there and take or elude the hits, and Ben just couldn't/wouldn't do it consistently near the time he retired.

Rodgers doesn't handle the rush like he used to either, but he's still a lot better at it now than Ben was his last couple seasons.

 

[chipped ham]

No QB likes getting hit, and it gets worse the older they get.

Ben played really well during that 11-0 start coming back from the elbow injury, but he wasn't quite what he was prior and he faded down the stretch with the rest the team and it carried over into his last season.

He drove fans crazy with all the premature 2 yard checkdowns on 3rd downs that last year.

I know the line sucked, but sometimes a QB needs to try to stand in there and take or elude the hits, and Ben just couldn't/wouldn't do it consistently near the time he retired.

Rodgers doesn't handle the rush like he used to either, but he's still a lot better at it now than Ben was his last couple seasons.

In that 11-0 year I think he also had a knee injury (suffered against Dallas, if I’m not mistaken), that I believe was worse than they let on due to the elbow injury the year before. In my opinion, that play/injury robbed him of his trademark mobility. Was he the same that year as he was in his past? Not quite, but he was never the same from a mobility standpoint after that Dallas game.

 

[Coryea]

No QB likes getting hit, and it gets worse the older they get.

Ben played really well during that 11-0 start coming back from the elbow injury, but he wasn't quite what he was prior and he faded down the stretch with the rest the team and it carried over into his last season.

He drove fans crazy with all the premature 2 yard checkdowns on 3rd downs that last year.

I know the line sucked, but sometimes a QB needs to try to stand in there and take or elude the hits, and Ben just couldn't/wouldn't do it consistently near the time he retired.

Rodgers doesn't handle the rush like he used to either, but he's still a lot better at it now than Ben was his last couple seasons.

Rodgers was sacked 40 times last year. He's not alot better than Ben was, he's averaging 205 ypg, they both averaged less than 7 yards per attempted pass, they're pretty on par with each other, Rodgers on pace for a couple more TD's, but more INT's. There's no denying that this Oline is way better than the Oline Ben had, and Ben's wr's were Dionte and Claypool.
We lead the NFL in 3 and Outs this year too.

 

[madinsomniac]

Rodgers was sacked 40 times last year. He's not alot better than Ben was, he's averaging 205 ypg, they both averaged less than 7 yards per attempted pass, they're pretty on par with each other, Rodgers on pace for a couple more TD's, but more INT's. There's no denying that this Oline is way better than the Oline Ben had, and Ben's wr's were Dionte and Claypool.
We lead the NFL in 3 and Outs this year too.

The system is the system. Different players playing within the same flawed overall philosophies are not gonna yield drastically different results.

Look at last night...

 

[Coryea]

The system is the system. Different players playing within the same flawed overall philosophies are not gonna yield drastically different results.

Look at last night...

Exactly.
My point is they stuck Ben with a horrible Oline and no weapons his final season. This Oline is better and they have a 150 million dollar WR and they are actually averaging 30 yards less per game passing in a damn passing league. What the f&ck is the point of bringing in a 150 million dollar WR if you're not going to throw the ball, he has 14 catches over the last 4 games for like 140 yards or some sh!t.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Exactly.
My point is they stuck Ben with a horrible Oline and no weapons his final season. This Oline is better and they have a 150 million dollar WR and they are actually averaging 30 yards less per game passing in a damn passing league. What the f&ck is the point of bringing in a 150 million dollar WR if you're not going to throw the ball, he has 14 catches over the last 4 games for like 140 yards or some sh!t.

I saw so many posts on Twitter last night wishing we kept George Pickens as though 1. he would've made a difference last night and 2. not being a headache because he catches the ball 3 times per game.

 

[Coryea]

I saw so many posts on Twitter last night wishing we kept George Pickens as though 1. he would've made a difference last night and 2. not being a headache because he catches the ball 3 times per game.

Yep, Pickens is happy because he's getting a pile of balls thrown his way, Dallas is 3-5-1 and I'm sure he could care less, put him back here on a winning team, as of now, and him only getting 3 balls per game, he'd be out of his mind, especially a contract year.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Exactly.
My point is they stuck Ben with a horrible Oline and no weapons his final season. This Oline is better and they have a 150 million dollar WR and they are actually averaging 30 yards less per game passing in a damn passing league. What the f&ck is the point of bringing in a 150 million dollar WR if you're not going to throw the ball, he has 14 catches over the last 4 games for like 140 yards or some sh!t.

Well not sure why people expect a lesser receiver than GP to be better in the same crap system other than he has an actual NFL QB. If Rodgers isn’t elevating him he’s a downgrade…and Rodgers looked like **** in LA

DK is nothing more than a good starting WR
He’s not dominant
It was an overpayment for him because no receiver wants to come to Tomlin’s offensive wasteland
An occasional splash play from him
Accompanied by some drops and boneheaded PF penalties

Overall very mid results for the “featured weapon” of the offense

 

[Drink IRON City]

I was very dissapointed with English beers. After Germans, Italians are amazing too

Home Brewing is the answer.



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