Mike Tomlin should not be allowed to hire coaches anymore

[Litos]

Now we have an old roster and a lot of committed cap for a mediocre return. This team is the redskins of a few years back.

 

[Punxsutawney]

The organization is cheap on the assistants which is a ridiculous premise. And what would the motivation for a great young coach to take a Tomlin job. His coaching tree is Charlie Brown's Christmas tree.

And the assistants that they actually spent some money on like Arthur Smith, Todd Haley and Mike Munchak turned out pretty well.

There should be a lesson for Rooney there somewhere in terms of the investment he makes in the coaching staff.

The Steelers need to get with the times in that regard.

In a league were most teams' assistants have assistants, the Steelers continue to have the smallest staff in the league, which almost has to put them at a disadvantage in terms of gameplanning and preparation.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

There was a reason he was fired previously to joining the Steelers . He is a bad coach.

I was looking through pro-football-reference for Austin’s past. Had some not so bad years.

From 2014-2017, he was the Lions DC. In 2014 they were 3rd in PPG allowed, they year prior under Gunther Cunningham, 15th.

Last three years in Detroit, 23rd, 13th, and 21st.

His one year in Cincy was 2018, 30th, entire staff got fired with Marvin. That was just a bad team.

He’s running Tomlin’s Tampa-2. I have a hard time blaming any DC of Tomlin’s the past ten years.

 

[madinsomniac]

I was looking through pro-football-reference for Austin’s past. Had some not so bad years.

From 2014-2017, he was the Lions DC. In 2014 they were 3rd in PPG allowed, they year prior under Gunther Cunningham, 15th.

Last three years in Detroit, 23rd, 13th, and 21st.

His one year in Cincy was 2018, 30th, entire staff got fired with Marvin. That was just a bad team.

He’s running Tomlin’s Tampa-2. I have a hard time blaming any DC of Tomlin’s the past ten years.

We arent running a Tampa 2 D, save for some third abd longs...

That was during butlers reign as faux DC

Austins base D is a Man press D, but we mostly hedge our bets and play man off because Tomlin is scared of the deep pass.
We run more man coverage than anyone else, but its all predictable... we blitz a ton, but not exotic blitzes from strange formations hard to decipher... we just do the same stuff and its easy to counter


And you misread the Cinci thing... he got fired midseason for having a historically bad d
After game 9 they set an NFL first of having given up over 500 yards 3 straight games. He got fired and the D improved.

 

[Coryea]

Now we have an old roster and a lot of committed cap for a mediocre return. This team is the redskins of a few years back.

are you referring to when the Redskins signed Bruce Smith, Deion, etc? Can you believe that was 26 years ago already.

 

[KentuckySteeler]

He came out and defended Austin today. This is where a coach begins his disdain for the fanbase. Sad that I don't go out to the Steeler bar anymore because of Mike Tomlin. I can't get excited when I know how the season will play out (or worse).

 

[steelhurt]

I’ve thought this since the summer.

He came out and defended Austin today. This is where a coach begins his disdain for the fanbase. Sad that I don't go out to the Steeler bar anymoe because of Mike Tomlin. I can't get excited when I know how the season will play out (or worse).

i hear ya! I feel the exact same way.
I have zero enthusiasm about anything this organization does any longer.
This current majority owner has totally wrecked what his father and grandfather built in Pittsburgh.
I’ll say it out loud. Tomlin was never the correct hire back in 2007. One year as a DC in Minnesota where his defense was nothing special ranked in the low 20’s. Prior to that a defensive back coach in Tampa.
This defensive genius moniker attached to Tomlin is pure ******* fiction invented and nurtured by the national media.
The guy is a middle of the road head coach. Certainly not great or special nor terrible just middle of the road.
Someone please name me one thing he excels at other than motivation which I’m even questioning that now.
No way in hell this guy lasts this long with any of the other 31 teams.
Why do you think he has the no trade clause? He knows how well he has it in Pittsburgh and is scared to death to go anywhere else.
Total ******* fraud!

 

[SteelerFan448]

And the assistants that they actually spent some money on like Arthur Smith, Todd Haley and Mike Munchak turned out pretty well.

There should be a lesson for Rooney there somewhere in terms of the investment he makes in the coaching staff.

The Steelers need to get with the times in that regard.

In a league were most teams' assistants have assistants, the Steelers continue to have the smallest staff in the league, which almost has to put them at a disadvantage in terms of gameplanning and preparation.

I think it's more of the lack of quality of assistants rather than quantity. Hire a bunch of Pat Meyer-type coaches isn't going to make this team better. Hiring a bunch of coaches that just have to run Mike Tomlin's outdated defensive scheme isn't going to make this team better. They need good teachers as positional coaches and innovators as coordinators.

 

[Steeltime]

This is categorically false.
Charlie Brown's tree actually has branches.
They're small and wilted, but they're there.

The correct analogy for Tomlin's coaching tree is Shel Silverstein's The Giving Tree.

This is Tomlin's coaching tree:

The Festivus pole. And believe me, Steelers fans have a LOT of complaints.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

This is Tomlin's coaching tree:

The Festivus pole. And believe me, Steelers fans have a LOT of complaints.

For quick comparison in Dan Campbell’s brief 5 year career as a HC he has already had two coordinators ascend to head coaching roles elsewhere.

How many is Mike up to now?

Can’t really even give him Arians since he was on staff when Mike took over

 

[Steeltime]

For quick comparison in Dan Campbell’s brief 5 year career as a HC he has already had two coordinators ascend to head coaching roles elsewhere.

How many is Mike up to now?

Can’t really even give him Arians since he was on staff when Mike took over

Astonishing that Matt Canada has not become a head coach. And just you wait - some team is going to jump on the chance to add Teryl "500 Yds" Austin as head coach!

Come to think of it, Canada should become a DC and Austin an OC. Think about it. Canada knows how to absolutely stifle an offense, while 500 Austin knows how to light up an offense to amazing feats!!

 

[madinsomniac]

For quick comparison in Dan Campbell’s brief 5 year career as a HC he has already had two coordinators ascend to head coaching roles elsewhere.

How many is Mike up to now?

Can’t really even give him Arians since he was on staff when Mike took over

Technically Tomlin "retired" Arians, forcing him out

He unretired to take the Colts OC job... he only got the HC shot because their HC had a medical issue tgat forced him out midseason...

I think the best branch on Tomlins coaching tree was Ray Horton, who left a DB coach postion to be a DC ... he had four DC jobs in 6 or 7 seasons.. last I heard he was coaching the Pittsburgh Maulers... so a Head Coach, just not an NFL HC...

 

[Confluence]

I have been the biggest Tomlin supporter because he IS THE COACH OF THE STEELERS...MY STEELERS...

But Coach T is getting on my last nerve these days...He has that headset on, but EVERY time they get a camera shot on him, he is NEVER talking to anyone in it.

I am yelling at the TV so why isn't Tomlin yelling at his coaches?

Seriously has anyone ever seen him talk into the headset? Just take the darn thing off your head already, you ain't gonna use it...

Wow, even Steve Angeles is beginning to notice that maybe, just maybe, Cool Shades doesn't have a clue.

Diver's down too, so that about leaves Berm as the defender of Coach Cliche.