More Poor Clock Management by Coach Tomlin

[steelhurt]

The team actually goes to the locker room with two time outs remaining. It sure would have made sense when the Saints were moving the ball in the red zone for the Steelers to use those time outs. Hell, the Saints were going to score anyway and at least you have more time on the clock when we got the ball back. As it turned out, we could have used that extra time when we missed on that long FG before the half. Maybe with the extra time we move closer and make the FG and cut the lead to 14-9. Just sayin', more stupid clock management.

Of course we have to remember, the Steelers are living in the moment.

 

[Steel G]

Tomlin likes to talk situational football...but he's stupid at it. My favorite was the shot of him wanting 1 second after his garbage time TD. Yeah, Mike, you idiot, keep pulling for that second. How this team managed to win 7 games is a minor miracle. Their OL stinks, their WRs below average save for one, their QB a dunderhead, and their defense is just simply awful consisting of old and busteds that can't play anymore and young guys who don't know how or are simply unable too. Enjoy yet another .500 record of stinky averageness and watching the playoffs at home....losers.

 

[coolshark]

its not just poor clock management, its basics. Has not gotten better in 8 years.

down 14-6 and not trending well. He called a TO in the 13th minute of the 3rd.
4th Qt - at midfield saints run down and take delay of game penalty. on TV they showed Tomlin pointing to the refs to push them back. What do you think happens? Punter kicks it inside the 5. decline the penalty. As that Geico commercial says, "everyone knows that". Pure stupidity
zero time on the clock in 4th after our TD. Why go for the 2pt conversion there? suppose a starter gets injured on that play. Rather not put anyone in that position

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Eh, a lot of coaches do not do consistently well at clock management. I've seen Hoodie **** up too and he's probably the best at it. I agree that Shades hasn't gotten better but the Hairball brothers are probably worse, to name two.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I have problems with Tomlin's clock management, but this was not one of them.

 

[JupiterBnG]

The bigger "clock management" problem was why we didn't start using the hurry-up offense until the window of realistically being able to get two scoring drives was no longer possible. As in, why weren't we doing that **** the entire second half, instead of the second half of the 4th quarter?

 

[paperclip]

As it turned out, we could have used that extra time........

This is brilliant.

 

[Troglodyte]

its not just poor clock management, its basics. Has not gotten better in 8 years.

down 14-6 and not trending well. He called a TO in the 13th minute of the 3rd.
4th Qt - at midfield saints run down and take delay of game penalty. on TV they showed Tomlin pointing to the refs to push them back. What do you think happens? Punter kicks it inside the 5. decline the penalty. As that Geico commercial says, "everyone knows that". Pure stupidity
zero time on the clock in 4th after our TD. Why go for the 2pt conversion there? suppose a starter gets injured on that play. Rather not put anyone in that position

Should have used a TO, and saved 30 seconds there and told Brown return the punt if at all possible.

 

[blitzburghv5]

We got our ***** kicked and the 11pts deficit isnt indicative to how dominated they were. Kicking FG's aint helpin this team...kickin a FG to finish that drive wasnt gonna do much for the final outcome...had we converted those redzone opportunities (here we go again talkin bout woulda coulda) we wouldve had the lead or been even.

Bottom line is this team has a magic number of 30 pts...it needs 30 pts scored to win most/all of these games. 24 pts wont cut it...didnt cut it vs NO, didnt cut vs Tampa (i know, 30 pts still nets a loss vs NO yesterday, but still its becomes a very winnable contest)

But every fanbase believes their head coaches suck with challenges and time management.......welcome to the "Its obvious" fan club.

 

[blitzburghv5]

The bigger "clock management" problem was why we didn't start using the hurry-up offense until the window of realistically being able to get two scoring drives was no longer possible. As in, why weren't we doing that **** the entire second half, instead of the second half of the 4th quarter?

Have you seen Ben in the hurry-up ? lol...its not much of a "hurry".......theres still 10-15 seconds on the play clock before its snapped.

 

[MT~Forged]

goin for 2 with ZERO CHANCE of winning was beyond stupid, that is when injuries happen.

 

[Stryker]

I don't know if you understand time management, but it was 4th down at the end of the half with one play left. They weren't getting any closer to a first down with an extra 30sec. The only choice in that situation is kick a FG or Hail Mary. The FG was the best chance to put points on the board at the end of the half. You can argue that they should have gone for the Hail Mary, but having extra time doesn't change the fact that it was a 4th down play, rendering the extra 30sec moot.

 

[Steeltime]

I don't know if you understand time management, but it was 4th down at the end of the half with one play left. They weren't getting any closer to a first down with an extra 30sec. The only choice in that situation is kick a FG or Hail Mary. The FG was the best chance to put points on the board at the end of the half. You can argue that they should have gone for the Hail Mary, but having extra time doesn't change the fact that it was a 4th down play, rendering the extra 30sec moot.

Truth.

Ben missing a wide open Miller was the reason for the failed field goal attempt.

 

[Stainless]

I don't know if you understand time management, but it was 4th down at the end of the half with one play left. They weren't getting any closer to a first down with an extra 30sec. The only choice in that situation is kick a FG or Hail Mary. The FG was the best chance to put points on the board at the end of the half. You can argue that they should have gone for the Hail Mary, but having extra time doesn't change the fact that it was a 4th down play, rendering the extra 30sec moot.

Extra time would have probably had some impact upon play selection. You are somewhat limited when you are dealing with time constraints. Regardless, unless you can look into the future, which only a few people here seem to be able to do, finding yourself facing a long fg attempt on 4th down has no bearing whatsoever upon how you utilize your timeouts during the previous defensive series.

Perhaps you are addressing someone other than the original post/poster.

 

[JupiterBnG]

Have you seen Ben in the hurry-up ? lol...its not much of a "hurry".......theres still 10-15 seconds on the play clock before its snapped.

No, you're right, it doesn't save a lot of time, but it prevents the defense from substituting players as much, which gives us a personnel advantage that we used with some success to make it a closer game in garbage time. We scored 19 points in the 4th quarter, most of which is attributable to using a hurry-up offense. So if it works, why don't we run the hurry-up ALL the time?

It's just another example of how the coaching of this team sucks, because when something is shown to be working, we do something else. When that doesn't work, we don't go back to what works. And when something isn't working, we keep doing it, instead of trying something else. If there was a definition for "Mike Tomlin" in the dictionary, it would be, "doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result each time. See also: insanity."

 

[Bigappleyinzer]

I don't know if you understand time management, but it was 4th down at the end of the half with one play left. They weren't getting any closer to a first down with an extra 30sec. The only choice in that situation is kick a FG or Hail Mary. The FG was the best chance to put points on the board at the end of the half. You can argue that they should have gone for the Hail Mary, but having extra time doesn't change the fact that it was a 4th down play, rendering the extra 30sec moot.

Exactly.

The drive was not cut short because we lacked time to move down the field. It was cut short because we failed to pick up a first down. An extra timeout was inconsequential at that point.

Truth.

Ben missing a wide open Miller was the reason for the failed field goal attempt.

That was the most concerning. Miller is a HUGE target, and Ben and Heath have great chemistry and never miss an open play like that. Ben has to make that throw.

 

[antdrewjosh]

The reason they havent been running the no huddle is Martavis Bryant isnt ready to run the no huddle. He doesnt know it. So if they ran he would be on the sideline.

 

[coolshark]

Should have used a TO, and saved 30 seconds there and told Brown return the punt if at all possible.

unlikely IMO

 

[SteelerSask2]

Bigger issue was before half. They should have gotten into sure field goal distance before they took shots. I realize you can't just say well they lost by three, but you can't just throw away field goals either.

 

[steelhurt]

I don't know if you understand time management, but it was 4th down at the end of the half with one play left. They weren't getting any closer to a first down with an extra 30sec. The only choice in that situation is kick a FG or Hail Mary. The FG was the best chance to put points on the board at the end of the half. You can argue that they should have gone for the Hail Mary, but having extra time doesn't change the fact that it was a 4th down play, rendering the extra 30sec moot.

You don't think trying to beat the clock didn't play into it? When they attempted that FG there was no time left on the clock. I'm saying why not use the time outs when you have them and maybe with the extra time they aren't in such a panic trying to execute plays. Never leave multiple time outs on the clock. They're allotted to you so make the best use of them since the time could have possibly meant the difference on that last drive before the half.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Have you seen Ben in the hurry-up ? lol...its not much of a "hurry".......theres still 10-15 seconds on the play clock before its snapped.

Part of the bigger problem is the lackadazicalness of the entire team. Just watching their body language yesterday, told me the story. None of them had any urgency to them. Get up slow, walk back to huddle, what the fluck, I'd kick someones *** for that type of shlit. Get in the game, act like you WANT to be there, contribute. Amazing to see Kiesel and his hustle, when you see the youinger guys way behind. That is a large part of team identity, that is coachable!!!!!!! Unless..................



Salute the nation

 

[Stryker]

You don't think trying to beat the clock didn't play into it? When they attempted that FG there was no time left on the clock. I'm saying why not use the time outs when you have them and maybe with the extra time they aren't in such a panic trying to execute plays. Never leave multiple time outs on the clock. They're allotted to you so make the best use of them since the time could have possibly meant the difference on that last drive before the half.

Not on 4th down and long being the last play. They are only two options. FG or Hail Mary.

Want the real head scratcher on that sequence? Why wasn't the PI called on the first deep strike to the 9yd line? We could have used one of our TOs lined up inside the 10 at that point since we could have run or passed.

Also, the point in clock management is to be the last team with the opportunity to score by leaving no time on the clock for your opponent. So even in missing a long FG, the field position doesn't hurt our team since there is no time for the opponent to score. I'd say mission accomplished.

 

[Stainless]

Not on 4th down and long being the last play. They are only two options. FG or Hail Mary.

Want the real head scratcher on that sequence? Why wasn't the PI called on the first deep strike to the 9yd line? We could have used one of our TOs lined up inside the 10 at that point since we could have run or passed.

Also, the point in clock management is to be the last team with the opportunity to score by leaving no time on the clock for your opponent. So even in missing a long FG, the field position doesn't hurt our team since there is no time for the opponent to score. I'd say mission accomplished.

Unless you are clairvoyant, you don't have the luxury of letting future events dictate decisions made in the present. I doubt anyone knew we would have been facing 4th & long while playing defense on the previous series. I'm no quantum physicist, but I suspect things would have played out a bit differently on that possession had there been more time at our disposal.

 

[topseed]

Extra time would have probably had some impact upon play selection. You are somewhat limited when you are dealing with time constraints. Regardless, unless you can look into the future, which only a few people here seem to be able to do, finding yourself facing a long fg attempt on 4th down has no bearing whatsoever upon how you utilize your timeouts during the previous defensive series.

Exactly correct.

The results of that series, whether they turned out good or bad, should in no way excuse the prior clock mismanagement.

 

[topseed]

Also, the point in clock management is to be the last team with the opportunity to score by leaving no time on the clock for your opponent. So even in missing a long FG, the field position doesn't hurt our team since there is no time for the opponent to score. I'd say mission accomplished.

You'd say "mission accomplished"?

I'd say wow. Just wow.