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Movie Night for S.N. climate deniers,yes it's free as in Socialist free.

ALL climate models are wrong this is not news, it's the degree of wrong that matters.

So you admit that you believe in a "science" in which the models are wrong, and justify your lame position by adding degrees of wrongness. It's like stating "Sure, I lie all of the time...but not as much as that wooden puppet in the corner"
 
Not so fast jack ***

Patrick Moore has been speaking out about this before and like other skeptics, including Freeman Dyson, has gotten the expected treatment by the left. Now he appeared in Congress to make a point that is backed by science, but denied by a climate science establishment getting fat off Global Warming and Green Energy grants.





A Greenpeace co-founder testified in Congress on Tuesday about global warming. What he said is hardly what anyone would expect.

“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” said Moore, who was testifying before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee’s Subcommittee on Oversight.

“If there were such a proof, it would be written down for all to see. No actual proof, as it is understood in science, exists.”

Moore didn’t hold back in his Senate appearance. He quickly zeroed in on the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and strongly scolded it for claiming there is a “95-100% probability” that man “has been the dominant cause of” global warming. Those numbers, he said, have been invented.

He also characterized the IPCC’s reliance on computer models as futile; told senators that history “fundamentally contradicts the certainty that human-caused CO2 emissions are the main cause of global warming”; and noted that “during the Greenhouse Ages,” a period that precedes our fossil-fuel burning civilization, “there was no ice on either pole and all the land was tropical and subtropical from pole to pole.”

Moore further crossed the line of accepted climate change discourse when he insisted “that a warmer temperature than today’s would be far better than a cooler one” and reminded lawmakers “that we are not capable, with our limited knowledge, of predicting which way” temperatures “will go next.”

Anyone who has been caught in the snow because the NOAA predicted a warmer winter already knows that. Our ability to predict the weather grows hazier at a distance in time. We can’t predict the weather two weeks from now. We certainly can’t predict the weather two hundred years from now.

Meanwhile James Lovelock, the eccentric figure behind Gaia and a revered figure in the Warmist community, is also being most unhelpful though for another reason.





Lovelock believes global warming is now irreversible, and that nothing can prevent large parts of the planet becoming too hot to inhabit, or sinking underwater, resulting in mass migration, famine and epidemics. Britain is going to become a lifeboat for refugees from mainland Europe, so instead of wasting our time on wind turbines we need to start planning how to survive. To Lovelock, the logic is clear. The sustainability brigade are insane to think we can save ourselves by going back to nature; our only chance of survival will come not from less technology, but more.

Nuclear power, he argues, can solve our energy problem – the bigger challenge will be food. “Maybe they’ll synthesise food. I don’t know. Synthesising food is not some mad visionary idea; you can buy it in Tesco’s, in the form of Quorn. It’s not that good, but people buy it. You can live on it.” But he fears we won’t invent the necessary technologies in time, and expects “about 80%” of the world’s population to be wiped out by 2100. Prophets have been foretelling Armageddon since time began, he says. “But this is the real thing.”

Recycling, he adds, is “almost certainly a waste of time and energy”, while having a “green lifestyle” amounts to little more than “ostentatious grand gestures”. He distrusts the notion of ethical consumption. “Because always, in the end, it turns out to be a scam … or if it wasn’t one in the beginning, it becomes one.”

He saves his thunder for what he considers the emptiest false promise of all – renewable energy.

“You’re never going to get enough energy from wind to run a society such as ours,” he says. “Windmills! Oh no. No way of doing it. You can cover the whole country with the blasted things, millions of them. Waste of time.”

Mind you, in 2012, Lovelock admitted he was too alarmist about Global Warming.


James Lovelock, the maverick scientist who became a guru to the environmental movement with his “Gaia” theory of the Earth as a single organism, has admitted to being “alarmist” about climate change and says other environmental commentators, such as Al Gore, were too.

Lovelock, 92, is writing a new book in which he will say climate change is still happening, but not as quickly as he once feared.

He previously painted some of the direst visions of the effects of climate change. In 2006, in an article in the U.K.’s Independent newspaper, he wrote that “before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.”

The moral of the story is that environmentalists are basically trolls and should be ignored.

Have you not been reading the threads I've posted In? Have you not noticed me ***** slapping right wing-tea party fools left and right with logic and facts?

I guess like Steeltime(A.K.A. Deepthroattime) you're just not happy unless it's shoved all the way down your gullet and you're finally silenced. Open up wide.

Your sources as usual for Steeler Nation Reich Wing posters are liars and industry shills.

Lovelock is an old fool in denial. He's made quite a living with his cheesy books. I've known about him for a while having seen some of his you tube videos. Senile.

Dyson I know nothing about.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/nuclear/patric-moore-background-inform/

Patrick Moore Background Information

Patrick Moore, a paid spokesman for the nuclear industry, frequently cites a long-ago affiliation with Greenpeace to gain legitimacy in the media. Several media outlets recently either stated or implied that Mr. Moore still represents Greenpeace, or failed to mention his current ties to the nuclear industry. This page contains all the information journalists need to accurately describe Mr. Moore and to judge his credibility. We’ve included some information below and have attached several recent articles about Mr. Moore.
Patrick Moore is a Paid Spokesperson for the Nuclear Industry

In April 2006, the Nuclear Energy Institute, the principal lobby for the nuclear industry, launched the Clean And Safe Energy Coalition and installed former Bush Administration EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman and Mr. Moore as its co-chairs. The Clean and Safe Energy Coalition was part of a public relations project spearheaded by the public relations giant Hill & Knowlton as part of its estimated $8 million contract with the nuclear industry.(1)
Patrick Moore Does Not Represent Greenpeace

For more than 20 years, Mr. Moore has been a paid spokesman for a variety of polluting industries, including the timber, mining, chemical and the aquaculture industries. Most of these industries hired Mr. Moore only after becoming the focus of a Greenpeace campaign to improve their environmental performance. Mr. Moore has now worked for polluters for far longer than he ever worked for Greenpeace. Greenpeace opposes the use of nuclear energy because it is a dangerous and expensive distraction from real solutions to climate change.
Patrick Moore Did Not Found Greenpeace

Patrick Moore frequently portrays himself as a founder or co-founder of Greenpeace, and many news outlets have repeated this characterization. Although Mr. Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace. Phil Cotes, Irving Stowe, and Jim Bohlen founded Greenpeace in 1970. Patrick Moore applied for a berth on the Phyllis Cormack in March, 1971 after the organization had already been in existence for a year. A copy of his application letter and Greenpeace's response are available here (PDF).

Patrick Moore Has Provided Inaccurate Information on Nuclear Power

In 2004, Mr. Moore published an article in the International Atomic Energy Agency's (IAEA) journal entitled "Nuclear Re-think." According to Mr. Moore, "Three Mile Island was a success story. The concrete containment structure did as it was designed to do: it prevented radiation from escaping into the environment."(2)

Contrary to Mr. Moore's claim, the damaged reactor spewed radiation into the environment for days. It appears that Mr. Moore didn't even bother to check his facts. The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission's fact sheet on Three Mile Island (TMI) acknowledges that the meltdown resulted in "a significant release of radiation…"(3)



NEXT LIE NEXT MISREPRESENTATION!
 
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Well goodie for you! You found yourself some left wing slanted bull ****. Funny you should mention the term Reich, when the term NAZI stands for the "National Socialist Party".
 
No one has yet explained to me how the Earth getting warner by a few degrees is a bad thing.
 
Have you not been reading the threads I've posted In? Have you not noticed me ***** slapping right wing-tea party fools left and right with logic and facts?

I guess like Steeltime(A.K.A. Deepthroattime) you're just not happy unless it's shoved all the way down your gullet and you're finally silenced. Open up wide.

Your sources as usual for Steeler Nation Reich Wing posters are liars and industry shills.

Lovelock is an old fool in denial. He's made quite a living with his cheesy books. I've known about him for a while having seen some of his you tube videos. Senile.

Dyson I know nothing about.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/nuclear/patric-moore-background-inform/

Patrick Moore Background Information

Patrick Moore, a paid spokesman for the nuclear industry, frequently cites a long-ago affiliation with Greenpeace to gain legitimacy in the media. Several media outlets recently either stated or implied that Mr. Moore still represents Greenpeace, or failed to mention his current ties to the nuclear industry. This page contains all the information journalists need to accurately describe Mr. Moore and to judge his credibility. We’ve included some information below and have attached several recent articles about Mr. Moore.
Patrick Moore is a Paid Spokesperson for the Nuclear Industry

In April 2006, the Nuclear Energy Institute, the principal lobby for the nuclear industry, launched the Clean And Safe Energy Coalition and installed former Bush Administration EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman and Mr. Moore as its co-chairs. The Clean and Safe Energy Coalition was part of a public relations project spearheaded by the public relations giant Hill & Knowlton as part of its estimated $8 million contract with the nuclear industry.(1)
Patrick Moore Does Not Represent Greenpeace

For more than 20 years, Mr. Moore has been a paid spokesman for a variety of polluting industries, including the timber, mining, chemical and the aquaculture industries. Most of these industries hired Mr. Moore only after becoming the focus of a Greenpeace campaign to improve their environmental performance. Mr. Moore has now worked for polluters for far longer than he ever worked for Greenpeace. Greenpeace opposes the use of nuclear energy because it is a dangerous and expensive distraction from real solutions to climate change.
Patrick Moore Did Not Found Greenpeace

Patrick Moore frequently portrays himself as a founder or co-founder of Greenpeace, and many news outlets have repeated this characterization. Although Mr. Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace. Phil Cotes, Irving Stowe, and Jim Bohlen founded Greenpeace in 1970. Patrick Moore applied for a berth on the Phyllis Cormack in March, 1971 after the organization had already been in existence for a year. A copy of his application letter and Greenpeace's response are available here (PDF).

Patrick Moore Has Provided Inaccurate Information on Nuclear Power

In 2004, Mr. Moore published an article in the International Atomic Energy Agency's (IAEA) journal entitled "Nuclear Re-think." According to Mr. Moore, "Three Mile Island was a success story. The concrete containment structure did as it was designed to do: it prevented radiation from escaping into the environment."(2)

Contrary to Mr. Moore's claim, the damaged reactor spewed radiation into the environment for days. It appears that Mr. Moore didn't even bother to check his facts. The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission's fact sheet on Three Mile Island (TMI) acknowledges that the meltdown resulted in "a significant release of radiation…"(3)



NEXT LIE NEXT MISREPRESENTATION!
Moore was an inaugural member and president of Greenpeace. He no longer fits the narrative, so we witness the typical history revision and character assassination.
 
Cause we sweat more and that means we sigh more which releases carbon dioxide and that depletes the ozone which makes the UV rays burn our skin and that hurts really bad and makes us angry and we start wars and stuff.

I read this on the inner net from this one site that had adds for free bus tours to Arizona
 


It was the ice age before it was global warming before it was climate change. "Evolution."
 
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The Climate Nazi's will eat their own to keep the narrative alive....

Climate McCarthyism has claimed another victim. Dr Caleb Rossiter - an adjunct professor at American University, Washington DC - has been fired by a progressive think tank after publicly expressing doubt about man-made global warming.

Rossiter, a former Democratic congressional candidate, has impeccably liberal credentials. As the founder of Demilitarization for Democracy he has campaigned against US backed wars in Central America and Southern Africa, against US military support for dictators and against anti-personnel landmines. But none of this was enough to spare him the wrath of the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) when he wrote an OpEd in the Wall Street Journal describing man-made global warming as an "unproved science."

Two days later, he was sacked by email. The IPS said: "We would like to inform you that we are terminating your position as an Associate Fellow of the Institute for Policy Studies...Unfortunately, we now feel that your views on key issues, including climate science, climate justice, and many aspects of US policy to Africa, diverge so significantly from ours."

In the WSJ OpEd entitled Sacrificing Africa for Climate Change, Rossiter argued that Africans should benefit from the same mixed energy policy as Americans rather than being denied access to fossil fuels on spurious environmental grounds by green activists. He wrote: "The left wants to stop industrialization - even if the hypothesis of catastrophic, man-made global warming is false."
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/13/Climate-McCarthyism-claims-yet-another-victim

Deniers better find a place to hide, the fix is in and all those outside the proper perimeters of specific climatology will pay dearly.
 
Moore was an inaugural member and president of Greenpeace. He no longer fits the narrative, so we witness the typical history revision and character assassination.

Well don't let the facts get in your way if you want to be a true denier I always say'

Here is the PDF of the letter Moore sent to Greenpeace asking to volunteer on one of their ships......TWO YEARS AFTER GREENPEACE WAS FOUNDED!

Moore has never denied that he wrote this. If you actually read it you can see that he is a stranger to the organization, not a 'co-founder' ,that's laughable.

http://www.greenpeace.org/internati...es/2008/12/patrick-moore-s-application-le.pdf

Here is your ride, you clowns never, ever learn.

 


It was the ice age before it was global warming before it was climate change. "Evolution."


Yeah here's what it looks like from here:

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Well don't let the facts get in your way if you want to be a true denier I always say'

Here is the PDF of the letter Moore sent to Greenpeace asking to volunteer on one of their ships......TWO YEARS AFTER GREENPEACE WAS FOUNDED!

Moore has never denied that he wrote this. If you actually read it you can see that he is a stranger to the organization, not a 'co-founder' ,that's laughable.

http://www.greenpeace.org/internati...es/2008/12/patrick-moore-s-application-le.pdfYou really are dense. That was the first boat and Moore was on it.

Here is your ride, you clowns never, ever learn.

You really are dense. Yes, that was his letter to the Don't Make a Wave committee to be on their first (inaugural) boat protest. Greenpeace was the name of that boat, and first of many of these now famous protests on the sea. He was on it. In his book, Greenpeace co-founder Bob Hunter wrote, “Moore was quickly accepted into the inner circle on the basis of his scientific background, his reputation [as an environmental activist], and his ability to inject practical, no-nonsense insights into the discussions." -
 
here's a good one


Climate McCarthyism claims yet another victim

Dr Caleb Rossiter - an adjunct professor at American University, Washington DC - has been fired by a progressive think tank after publicly expressing doubt about man-made global warming.

Rossiter, a former Democratic congressional candidate, has impeccably liberal credentials. As the founder of Demilitarization for Democracy he has campaigned against US backed wars in Central America and Southern Africa, against US military support for dictators and against anti-personnel landmines. But none of this was enough to spare him the wrath of the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) when he wrote an OpEd in the Wall Street Journal describing man-made global warming as an "unproved science."

Two days later, he was sacked by email. The IPS said: "We would like to inform you that we are terminating your position as an Associate Fellow of the Institute for Policy Studies...Unfortunately, we now feel that your views on key issues, including climate science, climate justice, and many aspects of US policy to Africa, diverge so significantly from ours."

In the WSJ OpEd entitled Sacrificing Africa for Climate Change, Rossiter argued that Africans should benefit from the same mixed energy policy as Americans rather than being denied access to fossil fuels on spurious environmental grounds by green activists.

He wrote: "The left wants to stop industrialization - even if the hypothesis of catastrophic, man-made global warming is false."

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/13/Climate-McCarthyism-claims-yet-another-victim
 
Spike, I saw that one yesterday. I guess the scientific community doesn't like it when they don't have a monopoly of the minds. Almost makes you think they are funded by big $$$. Nah that couldn't be the case, I mean these people wouldn't worry about being unemployed in a **** economy, right? Especially since they do not produce anything but theories.

But I am sure Pola will be here soon to post his clown video and let us know how stupid we are. I mean this Dr. Rossiter is probably some nut job that has a Doctorate in Women's Studies and has been paid off by the Koch bros.
 
You really are dense. Yes, that was his letter to the Don't Make a Wave committee to be on their first (inaugural) boat protest. Greenpeace was the name of that boat, and first of many of these now famous protests on the sea. He was on it. In his book, Greenpeace co-founder Bob Hunter wrote, “Moore was quickly accepted into the inner circle on the basis of his scientific background, his reputation [as an environmental activist], and his ability to inject practical, no-nonsense insights into the discussions." -

He's a co-founder and he's asking for permission? He's a co-founder and he mentions all his organizational activity BUT NEVER MENTIONS HE IS THE ONE WHO STARTED THE DAMN THING TO ONE OF THE THE OTHER 3 GUYS THAT STARTED IT?

PAUL COTE ANSWERS HIM IN PDF PAGE 4 AND DOES NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE KNOWING MOORE!!! HOW IS HE A CO-FOUNDER?

YOUR DENIAL IS TURNING INTO INSANITY........
 
Spike, I saw that one yesterday. I guess the scientific community doesn't like it when they don't have a monopoly of the minds. Almost makes you think they are funded by big $$$. Nah that couldn't be the case, I mean these people wouldn't worry about being unemployed in a **** economy, right? Especially since they do not produce anything but theories.

But I am sure Pola will be here soon to post his clown video and let us know how stupid we are. I mean this Dr. Rossiter is probably some nut job that has a Doctorate in Women's Studies and has been paid off by the Koch bros.

You guys know how stupid you are, at this point you're just fighting off the cognitive dissonance.
 
He's a co-founder and he's asking for permission? He's a co-founder and he mentions all his organizational activity BUT NEVER MENTIONS HE IS THE ONE WHO STARTED THE DAMN THING TO ONE OF THE THE OTHER 3 GUYS THAT STARTED IT?

PAUL COTE ANSWERS HIM IN PDF PAGE 4 AND DOES NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE KNOWING MOORE!!! HOW IS HE A CO-FOUNDER?

YOUR DENIAL IS TURNING INTO INSANITY........
I didn't say co-founder you dolt. I said inaugural member, which he is. He was on the titular boat protest.
 
I didn't say co-founder you dolt. I said inaugural member, which he is. He was on the titular boat protest.

He claims to be a co-founder so that in itself shows him to be a liar, really a person of low character who lies to self-promote and make a dollar at any cost. THAT'S THE POINT!

This is the exchange from page 3 that brought you here. It's about him being a co-founder you idiot.

He's a nuclear power shill, won over to the dark side.

Originally Posted by PoloMalo43
He's not the co-founder. Next lie.

Not so fast jack ***

Patrick Moore has been speaking out about this before and like other skeptics, including Freeman Dyson, has gotten the expected treatment by the left. Now he appeared in Congress to make a point that is backed by science, but denied by a climate science establishment getting fat off Global Warming and Green Energy grants.





A Greenpeace co-founder testified in Congress on Tuesday about global warming. What he said is hardly what anyone would expect.

“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” said Moore, who was testifying before the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee’s Subcommittee on Oversight.

“If there were such a proof, it would be written down for all to see. No actual proof, as it is understood in science, exists.”

Moore didn’t hold back in his Senate appearance. He quickly zeroed in on the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and strongly scolded it for claiming there is a “95-100% probability” that man “has been the dominant cause of” global warming. Those numbers, he said, have been invented.
 
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He claims to be a co-founder so that in itself shows him to be a liar, really a person of low character who lies to self-promote and make a dollar at any cost. THAT'S THE POINT!

This is the exchange from page 3 that brought you here. It's about him being a co-founder you idiot.

He's a nuclear power shill, won over to the dark side.
so you just respond to whatever post you feel like, regardless of the actual post you are quoting.
 
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