Multiple attacks in Paris, at least 18 dead

[Marshall Karp]

No worries, we're going to fix all this with fancy hashtag messages and inspiring Facebook memes. I mean, have you seen the one where your profile pic is draped in the colors of the French flag? Take that, you f'n isis pigs!

It almost seems as if people are treating this like a natural disaster.

 

[Rod Farva]

Just posting this for the brainiacs here that say it never happens....

Muslims Around The World Condemn Paris Attacks Claimed By ISIS
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/14/3722277/muslims-condemn-paris-attacks-pope-francis/

Muslim leaders the world over are condemning the horrific terror attacks that struck Paris Friday night, expressing outrage and shock at an onslaught of shootings and bombings that left at least 120 dead and hundreds wounded.

The outpouring of support for the victims and and disgust for the attacks began even before ISIS, the militant terrorist group current terrorizing entire sections of Iraq and Syria, claimed responsibility for the carnage. Muslim imams, scholars, commentators, and average Muslims expressed grief and horror using social media. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, an Islamic movement founded in British India in the 19th century, released a statement rebuking the “barbaric attacks.”

In Ireland, the Imam of the Al-Mustafa Islamic Centre and Chair of the Irish Muslim Peace & Integration Council, offered prayers for the victims and dismissed terrorist’s claims to Islam.

“My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Paris and every other place on earth plagued by sick men with weapons and bombs,” Imam Umar Al-Qadri said. “Terrorists have no religion whatsoever. Their religion is intolerance, hatred for Peace.”

Shuja Shafi, secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, repeated Al-Qadri’s rejection of ISIS.

“This attack is being claimed by the group calling themselves ‘Islamic State’,” he said. “There is nothing Islamic about such people and their actions are evil, and outside the boundaries set by our faith.”

The Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University, the thousand-year-old, highly influential center for Sunni Muslim scholarship, called the attacks “odious” and called on the world to “unite to face this monster,” according to French magazine Jeunea Frique.

Leaders of several Muslim-majority nations also spoke out. Iranian president Hassan Rouhani called the attacks a “crime against humanity,” Qatari foreign minister Khaled al-Attiyah described them as “heinous,” and Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister declared they were “in violation and contravention of all ethics, morals and religions.” Saudi Arabia’s highest religious body also spoke out, saying “terrorists are not sanctioned by Islam and these acts are contrary to values of mercy it brought to the world.”

Joko Widodo, president of Indonesia — the largest Muslim nation population-wise — said “Indonesia condemns the violence that took place in Paris.”

In the United States, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim social justice group, quickly issued a press release rejecting terrorism — something they do regularly in response to such incidents. Their statement also made mention of a bombing in Beirut, Lebanon on Thursday that wounded 200 and killed 45. Three residents of Dearborn, Michigan lost their lives in that attack attack, which ISIS also claimed responsibility for.

“These savage and despicable attacks on civilians, whether they occur in Paris, Beirut or any other city, are outrageous and without justification,” CAIR’s statement read. “We condemn these horrific crimes in the strongest terms possible. Our thoughts and prayers are with the loved ones of those killed and injured and with all of France. The perpetrators of these heinous attacks must be apprehended and brought to justice.”

CAIR is almost part of a broad coalition of Muslim groups scheduled to hold a press conference noon Saturday to collectively condemn the attacks. The group is said to include representatives from CAIR, American Muslims for Palestine, Islamic Circle of North America, Muslim Alliance in North America, Muslim American Society, Muslim Legal Fund of America, Muslim Ummah of North America, and the Mosque Cares.

Pope Francis appeared to echo their rejection of ISIS’s religious claims in a phone interview with the Italian Bishops’ Conference television network on Friday. Explaining that he sees the violence as part of a “piecemeal Third World War,” he said “there is no religious or human justification” for the attacks.

“I am close to the people of France, to the families of the victims, and I am praying for all of them,” Pope Francis said. “I am moved and I am saddened. I do not understand, these things hard to understand.”

The Vatican seconded the pope on Saturday.

“We are shocked by this new manifestation of maddening, terrorist violence and hatred which we condemn in the most radical way together with the pope and all those who love peace,” said Rev. Federico Lombardi, the Vatican’s chief spokesman said in a statement.

The response is expressive of the global Muslim community’s longstanding condemnation of ISIS in general, which faith leaders repeatedly insist is not Islamic.

Doesn't the koran say it's okay to mislead and lie to infidels? That would make the above more believable.

Such responses are common after terror attacks, although many Muslims and non-Muslims have expressed frustration with being expected to condemn repeatedly the actions of small militant groups who commit violence in the name of Islam, whereas Christians and members of other religious groups are rarely expected to do the same. Other Muslims expressed frustration that leaders of some Middle Eastern nations condemned the Paris attack but not the sometimes deadly tactics used to silence political opposition in their own countries.

Aww, the poor ******* just had to pull out that victim card at the end there, huh? I'm soooo ******* sorry that you can't keep up with apologizing for the number of atrocities committed in the name of your "god."

This is what I'm saying! With the whole world having smart phones you think there would be some video footage of the carnage, chaos, etc.

Anyone ever hear of a False Flag Attack?

Just jump on in. **** knowledge.

Extended drought? Its a desert, always has been. The issue isn't nonexistent AGW the issue is thinking we could arm "moderate" Muslims after destabilizing a ruling government and not expect them to do what they always do; turn the weapons we provided against us. Hudna in full effect, the "Refugees" that were all military aged, fit males were actually the infiltrating vanguard of an invading army.

His own research article points to "poor governance and unsustainable agricultural and environmental practices." Where's Sam Kinnison?

 

[jitter77]

I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would take in 10000 refugees who the majority probably hate America. The only way i would do that is to have several spies in the group to track the rest, but i am sure they are not smart enough to do that.

 

[hamster]

I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would take in 10000 refugees who the majority probably hate America. The only way i would do that is to have several spies in the group to track the rest, but i am sure they are not smart enough to do that.

The bigger question is, why are they not going to the wealthy Arab states, where they are more culturally and religiously aligned?

 

[Spike]

Obama is a complete fool for bringing them here


Suicide bomber entered EU by hiding in tide of refugees

Europe's worst security nightmare appears to be coming true: At least one of the terrorists who attacked civilians in Paris on Friday entered the European Union hidden among the wave of refugees arriving on European shores.

One of three bombers who detonated himself at the Stade de France late Friday arrived on the Greek island of Leros on October 3 among numerous Syrian refugees.

The man declared himself to be Syrian, said his name was Ahmad al Mohammad and was, under new procedures set up to help refugees, issued a new emergency passport.

From Leros, he traveled to Macedonia, Serbia and then Croatia.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/world/paris-attacks/index.html

 

[Spike]

It almost seems as if people are treating this like a natural disaster.

Our clown prince has it handled

 

[Troglodyte]

New York Times headline: Gunman possibly linked to migrant trail.

I've never taken a journalism class, but I am certain that an important part of journalism, is using words that most accurately describe the subject matter.

So is gunman a more accurate description than terrorist?

 

[black and gold apex]

A lot of shouting going on this topic. Fun made finger pointing. This is the same apathy we had when Hitler was wanting to control the world. All the shows this morning seem to go towards pacifying the American public to believe it is harder for this to happen in this country. Sad part we all and I mean me as well live our lives and happy as long as we have our phones and take the kids or Grandchildren to their events , pick up our pay check and go to the mall all is well. We seem to have forgotten 911 and the blank faces walking down New York streets, the scared faces running out of the capital building. I'm sad and angry knowing I feel but can do nothing about how our supposed leader and ones of knowledge sit on their hands. We want to exculpate sending troops, when all we do is send the same brave men and women in harms way. We are fighting ones that don't care about human life, yet we seem to fight a care about human lives war against the radicals. I'm ashamed of my self when today after all the senseless deaths, I get up and put my blow up Steelers guy in the front yard and put my jersey on as if nothing has happened. Have we lost touch in this country. Sad commentary on humans.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Maybe all of this Muslim extremism is caused by dehydration and brain damage brought on by global warming. I bet if it wasn't for global warming they'd be handing out flowers and hugs instead of killing people.

Well we've been fighting Jihadi's for hundreds of years (note fighting the Barbary Pirates, for instance, at the turn of the 19th century). So if Jihadists attack because of Global Warming/Climate Change/The Pending Ice Age, then AGW has been around for hundreds of years?

Remind me how Thomas Jefferson and his slaves contributed to AGW?

 

[Tibs]

This a long, but excellent analysis on ISIS and its connection to Islam. I think the most accurate way to describe it, is they're trying to reclaim/reinvent an ancient version of Islam, something that's been downplayed, deemphasized by modern day Muslims. It's as if a violent, extremist group went through the Old Testament and began picking out the most violent, extreme parts of the scriptures to create a "new" version of Christianity based on those passages. That seems to be what is happening here.

So there is definitely a connection between the Islamic State and the Muslim faith, but it's something perverse and subversive, and there's certainly disconnect between the way ISIS views Islam and the way the majority of Muslims do. But I, and others, have been incorrect in saying there's no connection between the two. I also think it's incorrect to state that Muslims in general abide by or support this very narrow, perverse and extreme interpretation of Islam.

Anyway, I strongly reccomend this to anyone who wants to gain a deeper understanding.

What ISIS Really Wants
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.

 

[Spike]

New York Times headline: Gunman possibly linked to migrant trail.

I've never taken a journalism class, but I am certain that an important part of journalism, is using words that most accurately describe the subject matter.

So is gunman a more accurate description than terrorist?

I actually heard a CNN anchor use the words 'Jihadist terrorist' today - that's a first, probably because Obama and his news scrubbers are out of the country today.

If you want to see what Allah really wants (death to infidels) - click on this pic inside the theater hall - (bloody dead bodies warning!)

https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_...1b4db65f5e99818bdd3914b44ded1c781&ec_rate=230

"And kill them wherever you find them"

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

This a long, but excellent analysis on ISIS and its connection to Islam. I think the most accurate way to describe it, is they're trying to reclaim/reinvent an ancient version of Islam, something that's been downplayed, deemphasized by modern day Muslims. It's as if a violent, extremist group went through the Old Testament and began picking out the most violent, extreme parts of the scriptures to create a "new" version of Christianity based on those passages. That seems to be what is happening here.

So there is definitely a connection between the Islamic State and the Muslim faith, but it's something perverse and subversive, and there's certainly disconnect between the way ISIS views Islam and the way the majority of Muslims do. But I, and others, have been incorrect in saying there's no connection between the two. I also think it's incorrect to state that Muslims in general abide by or support this very narrow, perverse and extreme interpretation of Islam.

Anyway, I strongly reccomend this to anyone who wants to gain a deeper understanding.

What ISIS Really Wants
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.

It's simple, really. It's time for Muslims to take care of their own extremists, or the rest of the world will do so for them. At some point they are going to push too far. For example, Vladimir Putin, a man with balls. He's using banned weapons to attack with in Syria. He doesn't give a **** what you or anyone else thinks. This is what it is going to take. Kumbaya, Democratic, Liberal, hug-everyone, every-kid-gets-a-medal approaches will just get more of our innocents slaughtered.

You fight fire with fire. You do not lead the pansy-assed, pussified way B. Hussein Obama does.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=210_1447545050

This video purportedly shows Russian jets dropping phosphorus bombs, which are internationally banned, on civilians in Idlib, Syria.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=210_1447545050#Zk67IkFUXAh66qRv.99

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=e1480a3f0a9f" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Supe, thanks for the link, good stuff

 

[Elfiero]

Aren't you forgetting something?

Oh it was well in hand long before the O man even smelled the white house.

 

[Elfiero]

Here let me beat the morons to the proper CONservative response:

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHH!

 

[ark steel]

If Russia is the country that went all in on attacking against ISIS, why plan these attacks in France instead of Russia?

Yeah, we know the answer. Russia doesn't have as much private gun ownership and the bad guys couldn't get guns......

 

[oneforthebus]

So there is definitely a connection between the Islamic State and the Muslim faith, but it's something perverse and subversive, and there's certainly disconnect between the way ISIS views Islam and the way the majority of Muslims do. But I, and others, have been incorrect in saying there's no connection between the two. I also think it's incorrect to state that Muslims in general abide by or support this very narrow, perverse and extreme interpretation of Islam.

Anyway, I strongly reccomend this to anyone who wants to gain a deeper understanding.

That may be true Tibs, but to pretend there aren't large numbers of Muslims the world over who on some level support these tactics, or at a minimum support violent and restrictive aspects of sharia, is to stick one's head on the sand. Trying to minimize this problem won't solve it. Let's see how much support CAIR and others have if we ever do decide to take on ISIS and Al Quaeda with the will and military force necessary to defeat them. I promise you their condemnation of ISIS will shift to blaming us.

I don't think it's ever going to happen though. Our current administration (and other wishy washy give peace a chance allies) would rather pander and appease than defeat this enemy. We'll accept collateral damage to our own people rather than look bad politically by inflicting collateral damage on theirs. This once great nation has been cowed by a few guys playing army in the desert. It's sad and disgusting.

 

[Troglodyte]

It's simple, really. It's time for Muslims to take care of their own extremists, or the rest of the world will do so for them.

Aren't you about 14 year's late in that assessment?

 

[Spike]

 

[Spike]

France pounding the piss outta somebody....it's a target rich environment



France Launches Airstrikes Against Islamic State Stronghold in Syria

U.S. is giving targeting intelligence to France for retaliatory strikes after Paris attacks

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-pro...-islamic-state-after-paris-attacks-1447618522

 

[Spike]

Michigan Governor halts Syrian refugee efforts following Paris attacks

Gov. Rick Snyder said he's made the decision to suspend efforts to bring Syrian refugees to Michigan.

While acknowledging the state's "rich history of immigration" Snyder said the first priority needs to be protecting the safety of the state's residents.

"Given the terrible situation in Paris, I've directed that we put on hold our efforts to accept new refugees until the U.S. Department of Homeland Security completes a full review of security clearances and procedures," Snyder said in a statement released to media Sunday.

http://fox17online.com/2015/11/15/snyder-halts-syrian-refugee-efforts-following-paris-attacks/

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FL doesn't want them either!

 

[Tibs]

France Launches Airstrikes Against Islamic State Stronghold in Syria

U.S. is giving targeting intelligence to France for retaliatory strikes after Paris attacks

Great news. And important to note the fact this is a joint operation between French and US forces.

White House officials said the Paris attacks had prompted a higher level of cooperation with French officials in the fight against the Islamic State. Mr. Rhodes said France now had a two-star general stationed in the headquarters of United States Central Command, which is coordinating the American airstrikes in Syria and Iraq.

“The French have been with us in Iraq and Syria and conducting airstrikes,” he said on ABC. “I think we want to continue to intensify that coordination.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/16/w...n=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0

 

[Ron Burgundy]

If Russia is the country that went all in on attacking against ISIS, why plan these attacks in France instead of Russia?

Apparently France was already shooting missiles into Syria. Still, if memory serves, two Muzzies tried to attack a Pamela Geller event in Texas back in May and were quickly dispatched by an off-duty police officer. In America we shoot back, given the opportunity.

 

[Tibs]

If Russia is the country that went all in on attacking against ISIS, why plan these attacks in France instead of Russia?

Because Russia has been primarily hitting anti-Assad rebels and not ISIS, as I've outlined in some detail in this thread. In fact, Russian military operations have helped ISIS maintain and even expand their territory. Perhaps the bombing of the Russian airline and the terror attacks in Paris may convince Putin that it's high time to shift Russia's stance to a primarily anti-ISIS one. This would be a welcome development.

 

[Superman]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-debate-transcript-with-insight-from-the-fix/

Senator Sanders, you said you want to rid the planet of ISIS. In the previous debate you said the greatest threat to national security was climate change. Do you still believe that?

SANDERS: Absolutely. In fact, climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism. And if we do not get our act together and listen to what the scientists say, you're going to see countries all over the world -- this is what the CIA says -- they're going to be struggling over limited amounts of water, limited amounts of land to grow their crops ask you're going to see all kinds of international conflict.


**** all of ISIS. We need to focus on climate change.
climate.
change.

 

[Tibs]

- this is what the CIA says --

This should at least give you pause, no? And clearly, nobody is looking at this as an either-or proposition. The fact that ISIS needs to be dealt with surely doesn't mean there aren't other issues in the world, does it?