no it is not. I want to win every year. I wish Tomlin had been replaced years ago. He has not been. But I also think he did a better coaching job last tear than what people give him credit for.
You're welcome. bro. The subject of this thread is Freiermuth coming out and saying that the Steelers didn't use hot routes. Which to me is not the most efficient way to run an NFL offense. My son's in high school, and yes, even at that level they have hot routes -- so it's disappointing and frustrating for some of us to hear that the professional team we root for doesn't. Pickett is 24 years old, and had nearly 1700 passing attempts at Pitt, but they won't let him handle something that a kid in 10th grade does?
so "they" does not include Tomlin. ok.
But you quoted my post specifically. For what reason? There were others which mentioned Tomlin by name. All I said was that "they" had a lot of cold routes, poking a bit of fun at Canada. But here you are, bringing up Tomlin again. Mysterious.
Yes, I witnessed it myself. 15 year old sophomores, both quarterback and receiver (my son). Amazing, isn't it?
Now do the same thing with playoff winning percentage.
You know what else is getting old. The last ten years of the Marvin Lewis 2.0 bullshit on this team where it seems like virtually everyone can see the short coming and that they will never win another championship with this guy and they keep resigning him for God only knows what reason. You are right BLITZ he did a pretty good job bringing them back from a 2-6 season. There was no way they were going to fire him. It was similar to his Ben hurt season. He is good at circling the wagon. But can they at least wait one year and see if they improve? Because he is the opposite with good teams. They underperform. The Canada move is as ridiculous as the WJ2 signing. The only difference is that it will be way more damaging to next season. Signing Tomlin through '26 is so ****** stupid its painful.
if you care to do so please share. but Cowhers percentage in the playoffs wont be that much better than Tomlins.
100% agree. But Tomlin simplified things this year with a rookie QB. makes sense. he changed based on what his team was. some of us have been screaming for him to do just that for years. we ***** about it
Go on a real legit run. I mean San Fran went to the NFC Championship with the last man drafted. People will shut the f'k up then. Other than that it's just a big bag of excuses that he says are the tools of the incompetent.
Because we want playoff wins and championships. He cant produce that, "obviously".
You are correct here. My only caveat to that continues to be this offense did nothing well. Think how bad they were early in the year. They had to try to do something with competence. You strive to be multi-dimensional, but you have to do something good first. I am still unsure how good they are running the ball, but at least they achieved some competence. That had to be first.
I think most want him gone, including me. But the minute you point out certain arguments against Tomlin might be stupid, well, shiit, you are a Tomlin lover.
I try to see positives. I think he more or less runs a good ship and is a good leader of men. If surrounded by right coordinators and position leaders he could still win at highest levels, but when they retain Canada its tough to picture that.
And he let some good ones walk. Leadership has as a huge component, finding and retaining good staff. He doesn't.
I think Arians needed to go or Ben was dead. He couldn't stop Munchak and Haley is about next best and was a bit of a disaster as a person. After that I can think of none.
We used to have this guy named Dick Lebeau . . . .
Good point. I don't see him as aTomlin guy. He was what he got left with and got rid of when he moved from a Jr. Head Coach to Full shades. Ie when they went to two DL and Tampa Two full safety.
Dont forget Butler. Butler was the up and comer behind LeBeau. Steelers had to make him promises to keep him around and from leaving to another team.
Let me add...
| Coach | Seasons as Head Coach | Seasons with a Playoff Win | % of Seasons with a Playoff Win |
| Chuck Noll | 23 | 8 | 35% |
| Bill Cowher | 15 | 8 | 53% |
| Mike Tomlin | 16 | 4 | 25% |