yeah yeah yeah, Tomlin is a terrible coach, an idiot, he has the same ole cliche riddled news conferences...blah blah blah
most coaches would have lost their team at 2-6.....
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most coaches would have lost their team at 2-6.....
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Myles Jack says he was waiting for the Steelers to panic
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Not the biggest Tomlin fan, but your last sentence nailed it Coolie. I’ll give the guy this: he seems to shine when the chips are down and troops need to be rallied. Just wish we didn’t consistently have to rally but that’s another story. Kudos given where they’re due.
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Well you cant blame the guy for thinking that. He is an expert at being 2-6 and panicking. LOL
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I have to hand it to Tomlin this season. I've called for his head many times over the years. This team has shown steady improvement in several areas this year especially since Thanksgiving. That's all I asked in what I expected was a real down year.
Yes it may have been against teams of lesser quality. But how many times over the years have we seen the Steelers crap the bed against such teams. Which is one of the reasons I've called for Tomlin's head.
Yes it may have been against teams of lesser quality. But how many times over the years have we seen the Steelers crap the bed against such teams. Which is one of the reasons I've called for Tomlin's head.
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We should know after this weekend whether Tomlin has truly mastered the art of finishing at least .500 It could be his, and perhaps even the entire NFL's, greatest season of mediocrity ever.
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I am as harsh of a critic of Tomlin as you will find. But I will tip my hat to him for keeping the team focused and not giving up. I also believe, can't prove, that he likely was instrumental in changing our philosophy from letting KP throw the ball 40+ a game to keeping him under 30 passes. As such KP has had some success and really improved on his decision making. Now I do think Tomlin plays down to competition and is not an innovator of the game. But as a coach, players like and do play for he definitely is one of the best in the business.
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Thanks for sharing. I think he is a much better coach than most other coaches in this league. But he is in Pittsburgh. Winning records do not matter much Super Bowls do.
He 100% deserves better than what he gets from our fans though
He 100% deserves better than what he gets from our fans though
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Tomlin's a good coach, I like him, I've accepted he's here until he retires. I know years ago I wanted the Steelers to make a change just as the Penguins did with Bylsma and eventually landed Sullivan. Two more Stanley Cups. The Steelers had the talent and I think a different message at the top gets one more. That time is gone now.
However, I still expect playoff wins. One and done has become the tune in the playoffs and that isn't good enough. I really want to see Tomlin elevate his coaching staff, especially with Pickett on his rookie deal. We've got four more years of a prime window to win with a QB on a rookie contract. The skill positions are young and cheap as well. Make it happen.
However, I still expect playoff wins. One and done has become the tune in the playoffs and that isn't good enough. I really want to see Tomlin elevate his coaching staff, especially with Pickett on his rookie deal. We've got four more years of a prime window to win with a QB on a rookie contract. The skill positions are young and cheap as well. Make it happen.
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That isn't asking for to much.....as you said......Make it happen!!!
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The jags have been a shitshow of losing, so yeah I can see the fire alarm being pulled.
Our beef is being perennial middle of the pack team for over a decade. Then if we do trip into the playoffs we get our head caved in.
Oh I know it could be a lot worse like other teams, but we're not other teams. We're the Pittsburgh Steelers. **** what other ****** teams do. That's not our standard.
I want Tomlin to win it all with a team he built. I really do. I like the direction he's going with committment to running and what he's doing with Pickett.Bravo.We all want the same objective as fans.
It's all about being truly competitive in the playoffs for me,not having a non losing season streak.
This next draft can put them over the top.
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Apologies Livingthrudy...I "thought" you were referring to Tomlin...
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He may have been referring to Miles Jack and his experiences with the Jaguars.
Or possibly Myles Jack.
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I rest my case
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I don't believe the guy was referring to Tomlin, but I guess he can speak for himself.
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Thanks guy s & sorry Rudy,
I totally fumbled the football on this one guys....I'm gonna go sit in the corner in timeout till I can get my head in the game....
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For all I know, he may have been referring to Tomlin. but it would probably make more sense if he was talking about Jack.
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And GOOD coaches can usually just avoid those pesky 2-6 starts
Great…woke up from pissing down your leg half a season and want some sort of comeback trophy…laughable
He may still get the team to his ceiling-average
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Fire Tomlin
My stance remains on the guy. He isn't a bottom feeder but he isn't the one to get the Steelers where they need to go. When they play the better teams and can figure out how to be competitive without embarrassing displays of football, then I would be ok with him overall. That horse with a limp looks good coming in 17th out of 32 horses. But that limp won't be getting you any photo finish victories and more often than not you won't even place. We can pet it and tell it well done, but the time to put it out to pasture has come and gone. I enjoy the show but await the day the owner gives the apple and sends it on its way.
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ExactlyMy stance remains on the guy. He isn't a bottom feeder but he isn't the one to get the Steelers where they need to go. When they play the better teams and can figure out how to be competitive without embarrassing displays of football, then I would be ok with him overall. That horse with a limp looks good coming in 17th out of 32 horses. But that limp won't be getting you any photo finish victories and more often than not you won't even place. We can pet it and tell it well done, but the time to put it out to pasture has come and gone. I enjoy the show but await the day the owner gives the apple and sends it on its way.
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Sums it up so well
He’d be a great HC for say the Panthers, Cardinals, Broncos etc
Just seems his only asset left is player’s coach but that’s only getting to average results and the occasional first round playoff exit
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Perhaps "the Steeler way" is the reason that no one is panicking. Tomlin knows his job is safe, his coaches know their jobs are safe, so why Panick? Tomlin teams have spiraled into the depths before, albeit usually at the end of a season rather than at the beginning, and no one loses their jobs until the regular season concludes or lose the first post-season game. The Steeler way is to never fire anyone mid-season. period.
So why did the Steelers start 2-6?
1. Veteran QB still learning new offense
2. Insert Rookie QB, limit playbook
3. Newly acquired offensive line still gelling
4. Najee playing injured
5. TJ injured and defensive production falls dramatically
What could have prevented this 2-6 start?
1 & 2. Drafting/acquiring Ben's replacement a few years before. we all saw it coming and Rudolph wasn't it.
3. Not ignore the offensive line the last 10 years in the draft.
4. Bench Najee and let him heal, make the damn decision
5. TJ has been hurt and out of games, and the Steelers lose. You let Melvin Ingram go mid-season last year because you weren't rotating him in enough, which was stupid as ****.
Most of this was preventable, and it falls on Tomlin. Tomlin caused this **** show situation and now fans want to prop him up as a ******* savior of the season. NAH! I dont think so skippy.
So why did the Steelers start 2-6?
1. Veteran QB still learning new offense
2. Insert Rookie QB, limit playbook
3. Newly acquired offensive line still gelling
4. Najee playing injured
5. TJ injured and defensive production falls dramatically
What could have prevented this 2-6 start?
1 & 2. Drafting/acquiring Ben's replacement a few years before. we all saw it coming and Rudolph wasn't it.
3. Not ignore the offensive line the last 10 years in the draft.
4. Bench Najee and let him heal, make the damn decision
5. TJ has been hurt and out of games, and the Steelers lose. You let Melvin Ingram go mid-season last year because you weren't rotating him in enough, which was stupid as ****.
Most of this was preventable, and it falls on Tomlin. Tomlin caused this **** show situation and now fans want to prop him up as a ******* savior of the season. NAH! I dont think so skippy.
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He is a “player’s coach”, no doubt about that. This team would play through hell for him and not think twice about it. That takes great coaching to get that on a player personal basis.
He has trouble with the Xs & Os of football, evident many times as shown on the field Of p[lay. There is also concern on his management of coaching personal / talent evaluation to a degree / …
One of the biggest issues is his non-hot-seat persona. This may not be Coach Tomlin’s fault but he is a benefactor of it. There is no accountability to on field coaching results thus making him extremely complacent in his ways. Couple that with the Rooney Rule and he has a guaranteed job with few consequences.
That above paragraph is a lot of why he gets so much “non-love” from the dedicated deep fans. The common fan base love him, but the deeper base fan sees’ through the curtain so to speak. This message board STEELERNATION.COM is compraised of the “deeper” fan base, thus having a deeper sense of football knowledge. That is why he gets so much negative here And justfully so to a degree.
I do not have any problems with the MAN on any level. I fully do think his time is nearing an end after 24’ and justfully so. I also think he will have troubles duplicating elsewhere what he has done here.
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