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Najee for Taylor

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Saw an article on ESPN plus on potential Jonathan Taylor trades and one team on there was the Steelers trading a 4th and Najee for Taylor. Not sure I would give up that high of a pick especially if I’m including Najee but I would do something similar. Let’s face it. Najee is not what we thought he was coming out and wished we would have moved up just a couple picks in the 2nd when Taylor almost fell to us. He’s everything we want from Najee and more. He would definitely solidify our run game and take pressure off Pickett.
 
Najee is getting hit in the backfield. Yes he has missed some holes, but overall there is not much there. I don't think any RB would be successful at this point. Warren seems to be the better receiving back, but najee is more of a workhorse back.
 
You could stick Walter Peyton, Barry Sanders,Jerome Bettis, Jim Brown..ect..in that offense and the results will be the same.

Barry Sanders is the only one I could see making a few big plays by making 6 guys miss, but he would also get killed a lot behind the line of scrimmage.

It's really not a RB problem. Heck just look at the first two teams the Steelers played. Massive holes all over the place.

I'm pretty sure everyone has been watching the same offense I have the last 4-5 years.
 
I would accept that deal in a heartbeat.

My opinion is that yes the O-Line needs to gel...But did you ever think that Najee is just not a good fit for our O-Line running game schematics?

Why change the way 5 guys play...when you can change just one and still get a top 5 back?
 
Steelr4evr said:
You could stick Walter Peyton, Barry Sanders,Jerome Bettis, Jim Brown..ect..in that offense and the results will be the same.

Barry Sanders is the only one I could see making a few big plays by making 6 guys miss, but he would also get killed a lot behind the line of scrimmage.

It's really not a RB problem. Heck just look at the first two teams the Steelers played. Massive holes all over the place.

I'm pretty sure everyone has been watching the same offense I have the last 4-5 years.
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Bing phucking O...
 
Won’t happen, not in-season anyways.

My gut feeling is O’Sullivan will soon be calling plays but O’Canada will still be in the room

In other words, NOT much will change.


Salute the nation
 
Ya got to just cut off your eyelids, don’t blink, get in the lab, blah blah blah. Just get rid of Canada and let someone competent do the job the way they want. This is completely a scheme/coaching problem.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
I have changed my thoughts on that the extra year on the contract makes the first round ok. You get their best years and then dump them.
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Not just a matter of the extra year, but it is what you are paying for that first round pick. Look at the salary difference between Warren and Harris. Is the production worth the cap hit and the salary?
 
steel dino said:
I would accept that deal in a heartbeat.

My opinion is that yes the O-Line needs to gel...But did you ever think that Najee is just not a good fit for our O-Line running game schematics?

Why change the way 5 guys play...when you can change just one and still get a top 5 back?
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Because those 5 suck at other aspects of their job also ... Like pass protection.
If you have an OL that can't run block and can't pass protect, do you have a line that doesn't need changes in the way they play?
 
SteelBuckeye said:
Because those 5 suck at other aspects of their job also ... Like pass protection.
If you have an OL that can't run block and can't pass protect, do you have a line that doesn't need changes in the way they play?
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They will be fine Bermuda
So you’re saying this year is a wash already since we have five bums on the online?
I’m not ready to go there ..
Running back style makes a huge difference … just compare productivity between our two backs..

Throw a J Taylor in the mix and his production would exceed warrens by far ..

Najee is built perfect for ravens, titans, 49ers, Colts type Olines ..

22 is a good player in wrong system.
 
steel dino said:
They will be fine Bermuda
So you’re saying this year is a wash already since we have five bums on the online?
I’m not ready to go there ..
Running back style makes a huge difference … just compare productivity between our two backs..

Throw a J Taylor in the mix and his production would exceed warrens by far ..

Najee is built perfect for ravens, titans, 49ers, Colts type Olines ..

22 is a good player in wrong system.
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1. No, I'm saying find out what the problem is and fix it. That requires changing the way they are playing.
2. If you compare the productivity of our two RB as runners, Najee had a 4.3 ypc average last game. I believe Warren was at 3.6 or less. On the season, Harris has a 4.6 ypc avg. Warren has a 2.9 ypc average. (sometimes the "eye test" fails). Now, Warren is definitely the better pass catching back.
3. In the limited amount of carries they have had in two games (16 for Harris, 9 for Warren), Harris' production has exceeded Warrens by far.
4. Every offensive skill player we have is in the wrong system.
 
Steeler Pride said:
Not just a matter of the extra year, but it is what you are paying for that first round pick. Look at the salary difference between Warren and Harris. Is the production worth the cap hit and the salary?
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considering that no one could do **** at RB in a Canada offense, your point is valid.
but consider changing Canada to a one-armed **** flinging monkey with diarrhea and accuracy problems and you're better off.
 
Steeler Pride said:
Not just a matter of the extra year, but it is what you are paying for that first round pick. Look at the salary difference between Warren and Harris. Is the production worth the cap hit and the salary?
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IMO….which doesn’t mean anything to the Steelers, the answer is yes. IF you can run a competent offense. But in our case that is a mighty big IF that the resounding answer has been “not a chance in hell”. Get someone with even half a brain calling plays and I believe the production would dramatically go up 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
steel dino said:
They will be fine Bermuda
So you’re saying this year is a wash already since we have five bums on the online?
I’m not ready to go there ..
Running back style makes a huge difference … just compare productivity between our two backs..

Throw a J Taylor in the mix and his production would exceed warrens by far ..

Najee is built perfect for ravens, titans, 49ers, Colts type Olines ..

22 is a good player in wrong system.
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Are you insinuating that Buckeye looks like me???
 
SteelBuckeye said:
1. No, I'm saying find out what the problem is and fix it. That requires changing the way they are playing.
2. If you compare the productivity of our two RB as runners, Najee had a 4.3 ypc average last game. I believe Warren was at 3.6 or less. On the season, Harris has a 4.6 ypc avg. Warren has a 2.9 ypc average. (sometimes the "eye test" fails). Now, Warren is definitely the better pass catching back.
3. In the limited amount of carries they have had in two games (16 for Harris, 9 for Warren), Harris' production has exceeded Warrens by far.
4. Every offensive skill player we have is in the wrong system.
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Well Buckeye----( I got it right this time!) ;)

If you truly believe number 4.....we are in worst shape than having 5 bums on the O-Line!

I never was a promoter of Najee as a number one pick, or a fan of what he has shown to this point in his career..
I do however truly feel that J Taylor would fit our offense very nicely.
 
The colts would never do that. Harris is the same guy as last year, slow, no vision, no instincts. He's had a few good runs this year but overall the same guy. No decent starting RB in the league has ever been held to less than 2 yards in a half. Guy is built like a LB and can't get in from the 1 yd line. Warren has been the better back since last season its obvious to anyone watching who doesn't have a Najee agenda.
 
Taylor wants a huge deal… so you are giving up Najee and his extra season of his rookie deal plus his fifth year potential for a UFA next year plus a fourth? Plus adding 2 million in salary? For what? 14 games in an offense that isnt getting fixed with one player
 
steel dino said:
I would accept that deal in a heartbeat.

My opinion is that yes the O-Line needs to gel...But did you ever think that Najee is just not a good fit for our O-Line running game schematics?

Why change the way 5 guys play...when you can change just one and still get a top 5 back?
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so Warren only gaining 3.3 yards per carry is fine also?
 
bigben said:
The colts would never do that. Harris is the same guy as last year, slow, no vision, no instincts. He's had a few good runs this year but overall the same guy. No decent starting RB in the league has ever been held to less than 2 yards in a half. Guy is built like a LB and can't get in from the 1 yd line. Warren has been the better back since last season its obvious to anyone watching who doesn't have a Najee agenda.
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no warren hasn't been

when Najee got healthy last year he was much better

warren isn't gaining anything behind this line either

I have no Najee agenda

I want the best bac to play

Najee is still better
 
steel dino said:
They will be fine Bermuda
So you’re saying this year is a wash already since we have five bums on the online?
I’m not ready to go there ..
Running back style makes a huge difference … just compare productivity between our two backs..

Throw a J Taylor in the mix and his production would exceed warrens by far ..

Najee is built perfect for ravens, titans, 49ers, Colts type Olines ..

22 is a good player in wrong system.
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So…what you’re saying is 22 is not being used properly?
 
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