Narratives

[Troglodyte]

The OL has played better since Cook replaced Jones. Tomlin was part of the decision to trade up to draft Jones which is looking like a mistake, so there’s that.

 

[stillwright]

The OL has played better since Cook replaced Jones. Tomlin was part of the decision to trade up to draft Jones which is looking like a mistake, so there’s that.

I liked the move up to grab him. How they handled him after the draft over the last few years is what I didn't/don't like. I doubt we pick up his option year. I actually hope they don't.

 

[slashsteel]

I still think Jones will improve . We’ll see…

 

[diver]

Yup you’re a narcissist this thread is exhibit A.

You pick at people just to be argumentative and make yourself sound smart, the funny thing is the more you do it the commical and desperate you really look….

Again, maybe I am. So are you, though. Being unable to engage in a discussion without hurling insults because you aren't agreed with is a pretty good sign of narcissism. Your little temper tantrums and name calling...exhibit A.

I will continue to pick if it means calling out the complete absurdity of this idea that a coach, or coaches, are more responsible for the results of a football game than the people that are actually on the field playing. It goes against everything you should have learned in sports growing up. It also defies logic.

As Desert Steel stated, that doesn't mean Tomlin should maintain his job. It is time to move on and see what someone else might do, get a fresh perspective.

 

[diver]

I still think Jones will improve . We’ll see…

I wonder what the biggest issue is with him? There has to be stuff we don't see.

 

[bermudasteel]

I have often been accused of being a Tomlin apologist. But I have never tried to defend his record and have stated a number of times he shouldn't have this job due to the facts...his record. It is some of the narratives I object to. So with that in mind, two narratives that really bother me. One is that the performance of the team on the field is mostly due to the coaching. I object to that because I have a hard time understanding how guys who don't play are more responsible than the guys that do. The second is that the Steelers have bad coaches across the board. It goes hand in hand.

According to DK, PFF ranks the Steelers OL as the 8th best in the league. Williamson has said PFF isn't as bad a resource as a lot of people think. Anyway, those that think it is mostly coaches and the Steeler coaches stink, is Pat Meyer all of the sudden a good football coach? Is the improvement of the OL mostly due to Pat Meyer? If you say it is mostly coaches when they are playing poorly, doesn't it have to be the same when they are playing well?

A A Ron is the OL coach, OC and QB ask rolled up into one.

Thank you kindly...

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

I will continue to pick if it means calling out the complete absurdity of this idea that a coach, or coaches, are more responsible for the results of a football game than the people that are actually on the field playing. It goes against everything you should have learned in sports growing up. It also defies logic.

The Jaguars go from 4-13 to 13-4 in one season with a new coach. What changed?? The roster-not significantly, then it was what??

This is one of the most galactically dumb things I’ve ever heard

Again just keep talking you look dumber with every post

 

[diver]

The Jaguars go from 4-13 to 14-3 in one season with a new coach. What changed?? The roster-not significantly, then it was what??

This is one of the most galactically dumb things I’ve ever heard

Again just keep talking you look dumber with every post

It's glacially dumb to think that the guys that play are mostly responsible for the outcomes of games? Really? The guys that block, tackle, run, catch and pass? While the coaches are standing on the sideline? It's just common sense. I'm watching the Rams. In 3 years nobody has been able to cover Puka Nacua. Maybe some of that is coaching, but he isn't he just special, too? Trevor Lawrence seems to have grown up a bit and had his best year.

No one is saying coaches don't make a difference. Shiit, I was around when the Steelers hired Cowher. But there were some outstanding, self motivated players there, especially on defense, that certainly helped. Cowher didn't do it by himself.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

It's glacially dumb to think that the guys that play are mostly responsible for the outcomes of games? Really? The guys that block, tackle, run, catch and pass? While the coaches are standing on the sideline? It's just common sense. I'm watching the Rams. In 3 years nobody has been able to cover Puka Nacua. Maybe some of that is coaching, but he isn't he just special, too? Trevor Lawrence seems to have grown up a bit and had his best year.

No one is saying coaches don't make a difference. Shiit, I was around when the Steelers hired Cowher. But there were some outstanding, self motivated players there, especially on defense, that certainly helped. Cowher didn't do it by himself.

It’s so hilarious when you divert when you’ve lost an argument.

Let’s try again: the Jaguars go from 3-14 to to 14-3, in 1 year with a new coaching staff…to use your words: who is most or “more responsible” for that?

 

[SteelerFan448]

The Jaguars go from 4-13 to 13-4 in one season with a new coach. What changed?? The roster-not significantly, then it was what??

This is one of the most galactically dumb things I’ve ever heard

Again just keep talking you look dumber with every post

Detroit lost coordinators and immediately missed the playoffs. Coaching matters.