NFL Bans Made Up Thing Called Hip Drop Tackle

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Real men drove their shoulder into the ball carrier, wrapped their arms around his legs and brought him down. The type of tackle they banned didn’t exist. There was a 60% increase from 2022 to 2023 and players were injured at a rate of 25 times higher than other tackles. There’s a reason the vote was unanimous.

you make it sound like the runner is just standing there like a tackling dummy and the defender can easily run through him and it’s completely unnecessary to pull backwards or downward to make a tackle. How do you drive into a runner that is faster and already in front of you?

in the real world many of these tackles are when the runner is running away and the defender closes the gap and may have to dive or lunge to make a tackle.

You are running behind a ball carrier. You can’t grab high, it’s a horse collar. They now told you that you better not grab around the midsection because then in the process of dragging him down, if you are unable to magically avoid the runner’s legs during the process then it’s a penalty. The NFL pretty much just told you to dive into the back of their legs. Until that’s illegal next year.

 

[diver]

you make it sound like the runner is just standing there like a tackling dummy and the defender can easily run through him and it’s completely unnecessary to pull backwards or downward to make a tackle. How do you drive into a runner that is faster and already in front of you?

in the real world many of these tackles are when the runner is running away and the defender closes the gap and may have to dive or lunge to make a tackle.

You are running behind a ball carrier. You can’t grab high, it’s a horse collar. They now told you that you better not grab around the midsection because then in the process of dragging him down, if you are unable to magically avoid the runner’s legs during the process then it’s a penalty. The NFL pretty much just told you to dive into the back of their legs. Until that’s illegal next year.

I think it's more the swinging the body across the legs, right? Idk, but your instincts are probably right. The NFL will somehow make this impossible to interpret.

 

[Troglodyte]

you make it sound like the runner is just standing there like a tackling dummy and the defender can easily run through him and it’s completely unnecessary to pull backwards or downward to make a tackle. How do you drive into a runner that is faster and already in front of you?

Low man wins - football 101. No sound tackle begins with “grab the ballcarrier around his shoulders, leave your feet and fall backwards…”

If a runner is in front of you dive at his legs and trip him up.

in the real world many of these tackles are when the runner is running away and the defender closes the gap and may have to dive or lunge to make a tackle.

You are running behind a ball carrier. You can’t grab high, it’s a horse collar. They now told you that you better not grab around the midsection because then in the process of dragging him down, if you are unable to magically avoid the runner’s legs during the process then it’s a penalty. The NFL pretty much just told you to dive into the back of their legs. Until that’s illegal next year.

They can still drag a ball carrier down, they just can’t fall backwards onto their legs while doing it. It’s the same hazard as a horse collar, just a slightly different technique.

 

[CJKSoCal]

Never knew what a hip-drop tackle was until the NFL started talk of banning it, which is has. Now the defense has to put up with another nebulous penalty when trying to bring down a runner from behind. More of the bs National Fantasy League.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Here is the actual text of the rule.

ARTICLE 18. HIP-DROP TACKLE. It is a foul if a player uses the following technique to bring a runner to the ground:
(a) grabs the runner with both hands or wraps the runner with both arms; and
(b) unweights himself by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body, landing on and trapping the runner's leg(s) at or below the knee.
Penalty: For a Hip-Drop Tackle: Loss of 15 yards and an automatic first down.

when you tackle somebody, you are going to the ground which means at some point you leave your feet or “unweight“ yourself. If you are coming from an angle then at some point of the tackle, your hips will swivel to some degree. They are also making the defender responsible for landing on the legs.

I understand wanting to take away an intentional dirty tackle but this definition can be applied to almost any legitimate tackle from behind.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Hipdrop is an easy way for ******* to make a tackle from the side or behind.. rather than growing low and wrapping at the legs which is hard and sometimes painful.
It's not made up.

 

[Troglodyte]

Here is the actual text of the rule.



when you tackle somebody, you are going to the ground which means at some point you leave your feet or “unweight“ yourself. If you are coming from an angle then at some point of the tackle, your hips will swivel to some degree. They are also making the defender responsible for landing on the legs.

I understand wanting to take away an intentional dirty tackle but this definition can be applied to almost any legitimate tackle from behind.

I think the rule clearly shows that they want the tackler to force the ballcarrier off balance and not just awkwardly trap the ballcarriers legs underneath himself.

 

[Drink IRON City]

To combat concussions High Schools started teaching the "hawk" tackle technique which has now led to players tackling the same way from behind...which is now illegal in the NFL. Screw player safety. You want to make millions, there is a price. What this really is, and it's been stated, this allows for game manipulation and nothing more.

EXCELLENT Post Badcat and thanks for all your great ones along the way.


They (nfl) has to come up with ways to manipulate continuously.........

all in the name of safety Valves to protect their interest in the gambling / tv industry.


Salute the nation

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

It appears the NFL is already somewhat backtracking. Now claiming this won’t make and ordinary drag down tackle illegal, just when the defender jumps. Well, that’s not what your freaking rule says!

Also note that Mark Andrews was injured on this category of tackle and the NFL specifically stated that tackle is still legal. This will be a bleep show getting it sorted out.

here’s Florio pointing out how vague it is.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Here’s the Andrews injury. NFL specifically said this tackle will be legal. The LB dives which I suppose means he’s “unweighted”, his hips swing around, lands on Andrews ankle and injured him. Still legal. Now tell me this is a good rule that can be called consistently.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

he grabs high on the waist and not low on the leg.. Grabbing high enables him to swing his body around on it.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Are you saying the Andrews tackle does not violate the new rule as written?

Read the text of the rule above. It says wraps your arms around. No mention of high, low, just wrap him with both arms anywhere. That happened against Andrews.

Next it says “unweight“ your body. That’s a vague BS term which I take to mean leave your feet. That happened against Andrews. Next it says swiveling and landing on the players legs below the knee. That happened.

I get what they are trying to do but this rule is way too vague.

 

[Steel Reign]

I guess it is go for and destroy the knees this year. Then they will ban tackles anywhere in the leg region. You will then only be able to tackle by grabbing feet, hands or ***.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

idc what the rule states; Lets lean what coach saysl He knows alll!

 

[madinsomniac]

Its weird how whenever defensive schemes catch up with the offense, new " safety" rules appear that only hamper the D

 

[Misstha70’s]

Basically now if a defensive player is in trail position of a ball carrier and grabs that runner from behind and drags him down, it’s a penalty.

I’d love to know how you are supposed to tackle somebody from behind and make sure that you don’t contact their legs in the process.

Put a dress on em

 

[TimesHaveChanged]

Something is wrong with you.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

How much time do I have doc..?

 

[Poobah]

Next it says “unweight“ your body. That’s a vague BS term which I take to mean leave your feet. That happened against Andrews. Next it says swiveling and landing on the players legs below the knee. That happened.

No, it says more than just "unweight" your body. It says:

unweights himself by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body

The key to it all is the swivel of the hips. Think of a smaller guy who comes up on a bigger guy from a front angle or side angle. He grabs then "swings his hips behind" the ball carrier and drops his weight to the back of the ball carriers leg. Looking at the Andrews injury above, I suspect it is considered legal because his hips stayed on line...did not swing or swivel them.

Of course, everyone knows what a catch is and eveyrone knows what a tuck is...now I am sure everyone knows what swinging is.

 

[slashsteel]

How much time do I have doc..?

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