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NFLNetwork’s Daniel Jeremiah Says ‘Everyone Thinks Willis Will Be A Steeler’

LeXX75 said:
I dont see Colbert not having the same say he always did..(whatever that truly is) otherwise why bother hanging around
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yeah, and if he's leaving... why do the draft? just wondering out loud, because it doesnt make a whole lot of sense.
is Colbert going to lean on drafting a QB in Round 1? He's not had the best of success in early parts of the draft. Late, yes.
 
ASSuming we do take Willis...
Round 1 Pick 20: Malik Willis, QB, Liberty (B)
Round 2 Pick 20: Zion Johnson, OG, Boston College (A)
Round 3 Pick 20: Channing Tindall, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A+)
Round 4 Pick 33 (COMP): Abraham Lucas, OT, Washington State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 35 (COMP): Sevyn Banks, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 4: Dante Stills, DT, West Virginia (A-)
Round 7 Pick 20: Jaivon Heiligh, WR, Coastal Carolina (A+)

here's the guys we can count on passing over...

Round 1 Pick 21 (21) Patriots: Ahmad Gardner (CB) Cincinnati
Round 1 Pick 22 (22) Dolphins: Drake London (WR) USC
Round 1 Pick 23 (23) Raiders: Bernhard Raimann (OT) Central Michigan
Round 1 Pick 24 (24) Cardinals: Kaiir Elam (CB) Florida
Round 1 Pick 25 (25) Bengals: George Karlaftis (DE/OLB) Purdue
Round 1 Pick 26 (26) Bills: DeMarvin Leal (DT) Texas A&M
Round 1 Pick 27 (27) (DET) Browns: Roger McCreary (CB) Auburn
Round 1 Pick 28 (28) Cowboys: Jordan Davis (DT) Georgia
Round 1 Pick 29 (29) (K.C.) Lions: Brennan Armstrong (QB) Virginia
Round 1 Pick 30 (30) Buccaneers: Andrew Booth Jr. (CB) Clemson
Round 1 Pick 31 (31) Titans: Nicholas Petit-Frere (OT) Ohio State
Round 1 Pick 32 (32) Packers: Treylon Burks (WR) Arkansas
Round 2 Pick 1 (33) Jaguars: Darian Kinnard (OG/OT) Kentucky
Round 2 Pick 2 (34) (DET) Browns: Drake Jackson (DE/OLB) USC
Round 2 Pick 3 (35) (NYJ) Chiefs: Trevor Penning (OT) Northern Iowa
Round 2 Pick 4 (36) Giants: Tyler Smith (OT) Tulsa
Round 2 Pick 5 (37) Texans: Jaylen Watson (CB) Washington State
Round 2 Pick 6 (38) (NYJ) Chargers: Daniel Faalele (OT) Minnesota
Round 2 Pick 7 (39) Bears: Jordan Battle (FS/SS) Alabama
Round 2 Pick 8 (40) Broncos: Chris Olave (WR) Ohio State
Round 2 Pick 9 (41) Seahawks: Myjai Sanders (DE/OLB) Cincinnati
Round 2 Pick 10 (42) Football Team: Jalen Wydermyer (TE) Texas A&M
Round 2 Pick 11 (43) (ATL) Colts: Jahan Dotson (WR) Penn State
Round 2 Pick 12 (44) Browns: Phidarian Mathis (DT) Alabama
Round 2 Pick 13 (45) Ravens: Kenneth Walker III (RB) Michigan State
Round 2 Pick 14 (46) Vikings: Kingsley Enagbare (DE/OLB) South Carolina
Round 2 Pick 15 (47) (IND) Falcons: Martin Emerson (CB) Mississippi State
Round 2 Pick 16 (48) (LAC) Jets: Chad Muma (ILB/OLB) Wyoming
Round 2 Pick 17 (49) Saints: Cameron Thomas (DE/OLB) San Diego State
Round 2 Pick 18 (50) Dolphins: Breece Hall (RB) Iowa State
Round 2 Pick 19 (51) (PHI) Raiders: Daxton Hill (FS/SS) Michigan
 
The post gazette had an interesting article about the trends for drafting QBs in the first round. Recently, QBs have climbed draft boards and the first rounders are taken in the top half of the round. Of the ones that have been drafted in the later part of the first round (Wheeden, Love, Manziel, Lynch, Jackson) only Jackson has established himself as a starter.
 
Hate the idea of trading up for any of the QBs in this class, if one falls and they wanna take a risk so be it but trading up for a risk seems very panicky…

and we as an organization definitely don’t panic, we definitely don’t blink and IF they trade up for one of these guys we better cut off the eyelids of every damn person in the draft room as we are obviously living in our fears and unwilling to paint the barn **** color brown with Mason/Dwayne shades.
 
Typical mindset of the NFL sports analysts. Just because your franchise QB retired, they automatically assume you'll use your first pick on a QB, any QB. None of these guys except perhaps Picket offer you anything better than what we already have on the roster. Better to focus on the trenches with our first pick where the draft is deep, especially the D'line. Our current ILB's get swallowed up and need big body's up front occupying blockers in order to have any chance at functioning. Then use our 2nd pick and a FA or two to beef up the O'line.
 
Steelers1356 said:
Typical mindset of the NFL sports analysts. Just because your franchise QB retired, they automatically assume you'll use your first pick on a QB, any QB. None of these guys except perhaps Picket offer you anything better than what we already have on the roster. Better to focus on the trenches with our first pick where the draft is deep, especially the D'line. Our current ILB's get swallowed up and need big body's up front occupying blockers in order to have any chance at functioning. Then use our 2nd pick and a FA or two to beef up the O'line.
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agree, mostly. I don't see that Willis can provide us anything better than we have now, especially with that steep learning curve he'll face. Though he did play at Auburn (Alabama's University for Retards).

I don't believe Pickett has a high ceiling. I think he is now who he will be going forward. With Tomlin, that might be a good thing, though.
Corral is a mix, IMO. He could be very good. But I still see him as toping out at Mariota level.

I'm unsure about Strong, though he's a prototypical pocket QB. Maybe he has more movement than his stats show since he had that knee injury.
I'm not sold on Ridder, and believe no matter where he's drafted he'll need 2-3 seasons to become average (though now that I say that, he'll explode for whichever team drafts him, unless it's us)
 
Superman said:
agree, mostly. I don't see that Willis can provide us anything better than we have now, especially with that steep learning curve he'll face. Though he did play at Auburn (Alabama's University for Retards).

I don't believe Pickett has a high ceiling. I think he is now who he will be going forward. With Tomlin, that might be a good thing, though.
Corral is a mix, IMO. He could be very good. But I still see him as toping out at Mariota level.

I'm unsure about Strong, though he's a prototypical pocket QB. Maybe he has more movement than his stats show since he had that knee injury.
I'm not sold on Ridder, and believe no matter where he's drafted he'll need 2-3 seasons to become average (though now that I say that, he'll explode for whichever team drafts him, unless it's us)
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I mostly agree I just see Ridder as a possible developmental guy. Worthy of a 2nd pick. But this class has the look of looking back on it in two to three years and thinking it is just a straight garbage class. Pickett might be the exception but at the same time he could just as easily topped out. Really hard decide there. Kind of question mark you don't trade up for IMO. As realistically that is what the Steelers would need to do if that was their desired guy. Free agency could bring an upgrade. Still crossing fingers and toes for that hope.
 
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The reason why you avoid a free agent qb is that they are stupidly pricey… if you get a young qb that has talent you get several years of discount qb play and can build a team around him… once it starts getting stupid expensive then its much harder to give them the support they need to win…

Like the guys pining for Aaron Rodgers don’t realize he is going to cost 40 million and he is almost bens age so he could dip out fast

Trading multiple firsts for a few years of Russell Wilson handicaps you giving him the tools to win around him

Even signing a journeyman qb is going to cost us probably ten million or more… with little chance they will give us much more than haskins or Rudolph really are likely to give us… and if they do take off they likely won’t be signing for more than a couple years and tgeir next contract will dovetail with the cap rising and will be absurd

Even if we have to wait a year or even two, drafting a guy who is good at a young age is the best way to win consistently again
 
madinsomniac said:
The reason why you avoid a free agent qb is that they are stupidly pricey… if you get a young qb that has talent you get several years of discount qb play and can build a team around him… once it starts getting stupid expensive then its much harder to give them the support they need to win…

Like the guys pining for Aaron Rodgers don’t realize he is going to cost 40 million and he is almost bens age so he could dip out fast

Trading multiple firsts for a few years of Russell Wilson handicaps you giving him the tools to win around him

Even signing a journeyman qb is going to cost us probably ten million or more… with little chance they will give us much more than haskins or Rudolph really are likely to give us… and if they do take off they likely won’t be signing for more than a couple years and tgeir next contract will dovetail with the cap rising and will be absurd

Even if we have to wait a year or even two, drafting a guy who is good at a young age is the best way to win consistently again
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I guess that depends on what is available in free agency in regards to how much better they are than Rudy. And yeah what it will cost. I think the cost will be a mix bag depending on who they go after if they go after... The sit on your hands idea to hope to grab a QB high in the few years never sits well with me. First off that really isn't doing justice for guys like Mink and TJ that want to win now. And as a fan I want them to try their best every year. I am not entertained by a team that says **** it let's just wait and hope down the road we can be better. I want them to try to be better now. I want them to upgrade whenever possible. And this year cap wise it is possible. They don't have to break the bank at the position. Just do better than what is there. Do enough of that and get the team where they are competive where it really matters. You can do that now and still trade up in a few years if you see a QB worthy. Free agency and a good cap guy can fill the gaps that year that you do trade up. Otherwise you are hoping to tank and tank badly. You can do that and still make bad decisions and still go nowhere as a team. No the coach/GM are paid to win and give the team the best chance to win. If they can't do that replace them. That is the avenue for success. One SB team drafted their QB, one picked up a QB and both are in the dance. Until we have those good decisions happening to a level that eclipses the bad decisions this team won't just be a top QB away from something great. One thing is true a young QB can make it easier to fill other need positions. More available sure. But this offseason our team is that more available. **** the bullshit they need to get their *** out there and make us competitive where matters once again. Not tomorrow or two years from now. Now.
 
Give me a smart qb who makes decisions fast,has a good arm and is accurate. **** the idea of the rb qb. **** doesn't work when it matters. The rats qb is a prime example.
 
Superman said:
yeah, and if he's leaving... why do the draft? just wondering out loud, because it doesnt make a whole lot of sense.
is Colbert going to lean on drafting a QB in Round 1? He's not had the best of success in early parts of the draft. Late, yes.
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That's my line of thinking too. Why handcuff the new guys ? ONLY thing I can think of is maybe they are thinking Colbert can help transition (hold hands) to get new guy up to speed. I don't think Colbert will all the authority he had last year, more like a contrast of all three in puts.



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Fiji Mariner said:
Hate the idea of trading up for any of the QBs in this class, if one falls and they wanna take a risk so be it but trading up for a risk seems very panicky…

and we as an organization definitely don’t panic, we definitely don’t blink and IF they trade up for one of these guys we better cut off the eyelids of every damn person in the draft room as we are obviously living in our fears and unwilling to paint the barn **** color brown with Mason/Dwayne shades.
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While reading this "POST" I was about to unleash hell on you

B-U-T

I kept reading and see you brought it back around quite nicely !!!!



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slashsteel said:
I guess that depends on what is available in free agency in regards to how much better they are than Rudy. And yeah what it will cost. I think the cost will be a mix bag depending on who they go after if they go after... The sit on your hands idea to hope to grab a QB high in the few years never sits well with me. First off that really isn't doing justice for guys like Mink and TJ that want to win now. And as a fan I want them to try their best every year. I am not entertained by a team that says **** it let's just wait and hope down the road we can be better. I want them to try to be better now. I want them to upgrade whenever possible. And this year cap wise it is possible. They don't have to break the bank at the position. Just do better than what is there. Do enough of that and get the team where they are competive where it really matters. You can do that now and still trade up in a few years if you see a QB worthy. Free agency and a good cap guy can fill the gaps that year that you do trade up. Otherwise you are hoping to tank and tank badly. You can do that and still make bad decisions and still go nowhere as a team. No the coach/GM are paid to win and give the team the best chance to win. If they can't do that replace them. That is the avenue for success. One SB team drafted their QB, one picked up a QB and both are in the dance. Until we have those good decisions happening to a level that eclipses the bad decisions this team won't just be a top QB away from something great. One thing is true a young QB can make it easier to fill other need positions. More available sure. But this offseason our team is that more available. **** the bullshit they need to get their *** out there and make us competitive where matters once again. Not tomorrow or two years from now. Now.
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GREAT post slash, thanks for all your input through out !!!




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If the Steelers believe Pickett or Willis is better than Rudolf or Haskins, then I bet they go after one of them.
 
I do not like this idea. No of this year's QB's are sensational...NONE OF THEM.

Wait until next year and there will be TWO EXCEPTIONAL QB's that will lead the franchise for at least a decade.
 
bermudasteel said:
I do not like this idea. No of this year's QB's are sensational...NONE OF THEM.

Wait until next year and there will be TWO EXCEPTIONAL QB's that will lead the franchise for at least a decade.
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nix and ?
 
how's everyone feel about Drew Lock?
Rumors have Aaron Rogers going to Denver...among other places. Which could make Lock expendable.
 
bermudasteel said:
I do not like this idea. No of this year's QB's are sensational...NONE OF THEM.

Wait until next year and there will be TWO EXCEPTIONAL QB's that will lead the franchise for at least a decade.
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The Steelers aren't finishing next season in the bottom three. Who's QB3 and QB 4 who may actually be available where we pick?
 
Superman said:
how's everyone feel about Drew Lock?
Rumors have Aaron Rogers going to Denver...among other places. Which could make Lock expendable.
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If they cut him or ask for a late pick I'm on board
 
If the Steelers do plan on taking QB in Rd 1 then they better get a quality OT in free agency. They have cap space.
 
My thought is they draft a "developmental" QB to add to the room 5th round or later....and worry address the QB situation again next season..
Unless Mason surprises everyone.. ;)
Some possibilities:
Bailey Zappe - W. Kentucky - probably goes earlier
Jack Coan - N.D - should be available in 4th -5th
Aqueel Glass - Alabama A&M - 6th round or F.A.
Cole Kelley - Southeastern Louisiana - 7th or F.A
 
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