Oakorafor------------- muddled handling

[SteelBuckeye]

Chuks will be on the trade market. Hopefully before the draft.

Maybe the trade him to Chicago for Fields. (sarcasm)

 

[Drink IRON City]

Chuks will be on the trade market. Hopefully before the draft.

Maybe the trade him to Chicago for Fields. (sarcasm)

Get what they can, 4 or 5th?


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[SteelBuckeye]

Get what they can, 4 or 5th?


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Experienced RT who is about average at his job. I'd try to get a 3rd or 4th. However, he's due a $4M roster bonus on the 5th day of the new league year. So, if they can't trade him quickly, they have a big financial decision to make. Keep him and try to trade him later and you have to eat that $4M cap hit. Or, cut him and receive nothing for him.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

RT may be the best position for Jones. He's powerful. It used to be that LT was your pass blocker and RT was the run blocker. That's not really true anymore. Tons of defenses started putting the best pass rusher against overmatched RTs. You now need both OTs that can pass block.

It's the same in college and with so many college teams throwing so often, it's easier to find a decent pass blocking LT than it is to find somebody who can be above the line as both a pass blocker and run blocker.

The steelers may see Jones at LT as a waste of a potentially devastating run blocker. The Eagles play their best Lane Johnson at RT for the same reason.

 

[Drink IRON City]

RT may be the best position for Jones. He's powerful. It used to be that LT was your pass blocker and RT was the run blocker. That's not really true anymore. Tons of defenses started putting the best pass rusher against overmatched RTs. You now need both OTs that can pass block.

It's the same in college and with so many college teams throwing so often, it's easier to find a decent pass blocking LT than it is to find somebody who can be above the line as both a pass blocker and run blocker.

The steelers may see Jones at LT as a waste of a potentially devastating run blocker. The Eagles play their best Lane Johnson at RT for the same reason.

Having that “flex” in Jones is a luxury, it allows the Steelers to look a little broader in the draft, but still realize they need help at tackle. Dan Moore has reached his expiration date when it comes to LT starting.


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[Superman]

Okafor signed that deal under the impression he was getting moved to LT eventually

I believe the year Creed was drafted, we took harris and friermuth before him. pickett was the year after

yes - and Najee was openly wanting us to take Creed. as was a certain retard on the board who won't let it go - @Hines57

 

[Superman]

RT may be the best position for Jones. He's powerful. It used to be that LT was your pass blocker and RT was the run blocker. That's not really true anymore. Tons of defenses started putting the best pass rusher against overmatched RTs. You now need both OTs that can pass block.

It's the same in college and with so many college teams throwing so often, it's easier to find a decent pass blocking LT than it is to find somebody who can be above the line as both a pass blocker and run blocker.

The steelers may see Jones at LT as a waste of a potentially devastating run blocker. The Eagles play their best Lane Johnson at RT for the same reason.

some mocks have us taking Amarius Mims (Georgia) in the first and flipping Jones back to LT. Mims is a HUGE dude and a strong, powerful blocker. Which, means Chuks and Moore will be looking for work

 

[slashsteel]

some mocks have us taking Amarius Mims (Georgia) in the first and flipping Jones back to LT. Mims is a HUGE dude and a strong, powerful blocker. Which, means Chuks and Moore will be looking for work

I don't think they would shuffle both out this upcoming season. I think Chukes is out and Moore stays. Moore isn't breaking the bank so that would factor in too.

 

[Drink IRON City]

yes - and Najee was openly wanting us to take Creed. as was a certain retard on the board who won't let it go - @Hines57

For a second there I thought you were talking about me, but then I saw the “retard” designation and knew it was who you said it was……….!!!!! LoL



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[Drink IRON City]

some mocks have us taking Amarius Mims (Georgia) in the first and flipping Jones back to LT. Mims is a HUGE dude and a strong, powerful blocker. Which, means Chuks and Moore will be looking for work

Moore may be kept on as depth, but if we could move him for draft capital, I’d go for that as well.

Oakorafor should be trade draft capital.


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[madinsomniac]

some mocks have us taking Amarius Mims (Georgia) in the first and flipping Jones back to LT. Mims is a HUGE dude and a strong, powerful blocker. Which, means Chuks and Moore will be looking for work

I really love this... then get a center in the second and the guards can be plug and play for the next decade

 

[Ike Kelly]

some mocks have us taking Amarius Mims (Georgia) in the first and flipping Jones back to LT. Mims is a HUGE dude and a strong, powerful blocker. Which, means Chuks and Moore will be looking for work

Taking the C Van Pran as well will fortify the OL for a decade. Both OTs and C will be set, and the OGs are already solid.

 

[F83]

would keep Moore as a swing T, draft a true Rt rnd 1 or 2 from one of these guys
Mims
Latham
Fuaga

Need a road grader now Mims and Latham come from great schools where there was great structure and we I think with our first 2 picks should draft guys from Schools that had good traditions in terms of physicality and coaching that Check both Alabama and Georgia.

Fuaga could be a Gilbert-type RT hearing he may rise to a mid-rnd 1.

Penn ST is always known for good DBs so King could be a good option.
Right now with Cam's age and mileage, I would go Mims/Latham and then DT Jenkins as Cam's apparent because I see nothing from Leal, I mean if a street bum like Watts is getting more reps there is a big problem.

 

[F83]

just used nfldraftdatabase to come up with this

• Kool-Aid McKinstry Shut down skill and Size
  CB | Alabama
  A+
• 53
  
  
  
  
  Edgerrin Cooper playmaker, will be what Bush was prior to injury
  LB | Texas A&M
  A
• 84
  
  
  
  Brenden Rice
  WR | USC
  A
• 119
  
  
  
  Johnny Dixon
  CB | Penn State
  B+
• 120
  
  
  
  Spencer Rattler
  QB | South Carolina
  A
• 176
  
  
  
  
  C Drake Nugent Michigan
  A
• 196
  "P 6"4 avg 48 yds a punt on a good day Pressily cant avg 45 in hot weather
  
  
  

  A TORY TAYLOR​

• 237
  
  
  
  Austin Booker
  EDGE | Kansas
  A+

 

[Greg Lloyd]

whole ******* OL has been a clusterfuck. considering the bullshit we've seen with how half the line ran block on pass downs while others did what they wanted, and vise versa on pass downs... I wonder if Chuks really could be good at RT with a quality OL coach. Or if Moore could be better... hell, if any and all of these guys could be better.

Munch would make everyone of them better, take that to the bank. But Munch had a problem with this team for some reason, I wonder what that could have been?

 

[Ike Kelly]

Munch would make everyone of them better, take that to the bank. But Munch had a problem with this team for some reason, I wonder what that could have been?

Munchak’s contract expired and chose an offer in Denver instead of PIT. Munch actually said enjoyed working with players he had. He took the Denver job because he and his wife wanted to be close to his daughter and grandchild in Colorado. Plain and simple. There was some talk in the Nashville papers recently about getting Munch back on the TEN coaching staff, but I don’t even know if he is still interested, since Vrabel was let go.

 

[MTC]

Munchak’s contract expired and chose an offer in Denver instead of PIT. Munch actually said enjoyed working with players he had. He took the Denver job because he and his wife wanted to be close to his daughter and grandchild in Colorado. Plain and simple. There was some talk in the Nashville papers recently about getting Munch back on the TEN coaching staff, but I don’t even know if he is still interested, since Vrabel was let go.

Maybe Tomlin can convince him *wishful thinking*

 

[Greg Lloyd]

Munchak’s contract expired and chose an offer in Denver instead of PIT. Munch actually said enjoyed working with players he had. He took the Denver job because he and his wife wanted to be close to his daughter and grandchild in Colorado. Plain and simple. There was some talk in the Nashville papers recently about getting Munch back on the TEN coaching staff, but I don’t even know if he is still interested, since Vrabel was let go.

Yea, on the surface perhaps, but it was anything "plain and simple" as you assert.

https://triblive.com/sports/tim-ben...s-departure-from-steelers-than-meets-the-eye/

But the catch-all explanation "he just left for family" isn't good enough.



From Munchak, if he wants to offer that quote eventually, it is. But from the Steelers, it isn't.



Why was Munchak's contract allowed to expire so that such a move was possible? He should've at least been given a hefty raise and contract extension. Maybe a promotion to "associate head coach," or some similar title, as well. That would've prevented the Broncos from hiring him away.



Or maybe he should've been given the offensive coordinator's job last year instead of Randy Fichtner after Todd Haley was dismissed.



Let's be honest. Fichtner's interaction with Roethlisberger really wouldn't be all that different if he were still just the quarterback's coach as opposed to the offensive coordinator. In fact, I'd argue having Munchak in charge would've brought more run balance to an offense that threw the ball 67.39 percent of the time. That was the second highest total in the NFL this year.



Plus, it's not like anyone was beating down Fichtner's door. He simply got promoted the moment Todd Haley was fired, and I haven't heard rumors of him getting head coaching looks this offseason.



If that role-change wouldn't have been dramatic enough for Munchak's liking, firing Mike Tomlin and giving Munchak the Steelers head coaching job was an option. I endorsed that notion.



Many pontificated that Munchak wouldn't want to be a head coach after getting fired in Tennessee. It sure seemed that way when he decided to turn down a second interview for the Arizona coaching job last offseason. Back then, the Scranton native also pointed to "family reasons" as to why he didn't want to leave Pittsburgh.

 

[bermudasteel]

Get what they can, 4 or 5th?


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4 or 5 cases of oil??? That seems fair.

 

[bermudasteel]

Taking the C Van Pran as well will fortify the OL for a decade. Both OTs and C will be set, and the OGs are already solid.

Amen.

 

[stillwright]

Get what they can, 4 or 5th?


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Then he will turn into a probowler......

 

[Ike Kelly]

Yea, on the surface perhaps, but it was anything "plain and simple" as you assert.

https://triblive.com/sports/tim-ben...s-departure-from-steelers-than-meets-the-eye/

Please, Tim Benz article is your reference? He’s been trying to get rid of Tomlin, longer than anyone on this board. It’s his go to narrative. We don’t even know if Munch WAS offered an Asst HC title, he might have. But other reporters indicated his wife wanted to be close their grand children in the west and that was his motivation. I’d find it hard to believe the Rooney’s would stop someone doing what they want for family reasons. Not to mention the fact his contract $ was much much more than the league average.

 

[Greg Lloyd]

Not to mention the fact his contract $ was much much more than the league average.

Yea because I'm sure whatever pittance amount his salary was higher than his peers it was worth turning the OL from a top 5 unit to a laughing stock of the league. I hope the few hundred 1000 was worth that Rooneys. What a great deal that decision was.