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Ok hold on now, Maybe we need to increase global warming! Winter Is Coming!

I'm get sick and tired of these Muzzie loving climate change deniers. You know they are just denying the overwhelming scientific evidence
because they want the Muslims to keep getting top dollar for their oil so they can keep funding world terrorism and promoting Islam.

I seriously hope you are on medication. There is no scientific evidence for AGW. Just junk science with people like ALGore scamming the system. What happened to the ice caps that were suppose to be gone by now? What happened to the rising sea? What happened to the "End of snow". Lies and you people gobble it up like candy because it's political and NOT scientific.

BTW if you were really worried about funding terrorist then your god BHO would have been bombing their oil fields. Obviously he wasn't too concerned with funding them. Dumb ***
 
Seems the best way to combat global warming is to use up as much of the fossil fuels as we can now, so it is all gone and we are left with nothing but renewable energy to depend upon. From that point forward we would be carbon neutral right?

DRILL BABY DRILL!! SAVE THE EARTH!!
 
If we use up all the fossil fuels, we'll all be swimming. Junk science = fingers in ears shouting La, la, la, la, la, la.

That 's conservatives answer for everything they don't want to hear.
 
If we use up all the fossil fuels, we'll all be swimming. Junk science = fingers in ears shouting La, la, la, la, la, la.

That 's conservatives answer for everything they don't want to hear.

Actually, we like to see real science. Not this political garbage you are consuming and believing it's "science." It's been debunked, a thousand times over.

But really, just keep on keepin' on and feeding the political machine that strives to globally redistribute wealth in the name of false claims.
 
If we use up all the fossil fuels, we'll all be swimming. Junk science = fingers in ears shouting La, la, la, la, la, la.

That 's conservatives answer for everything they don't want to hear.

Answer the question dumb ***. What happened to the ice caps? What happened to the rising sea levels? What happened to the "end of snow". What is scientific about telling huge lies? You're group is a bunch of liars and bullshit artists.
 

Seriously? They have charts with "ESTIMATES of the past"? What a crock of ****.

How about a real scientist who actually ran the International Commission on Sea Level Change? This is what he said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

He went to the Maldives for years doing research. Guess what he found? Nothing... absolutely no sea level rise for 50 years. Here is the truth about scientist and their devotion to the church of AGW:

One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".

Lies and more lies from these Bishops of the Church of AGW.
 
I thought this was a great speech on global climate change and management

 
I thought this was a great speech on global climate change and management



So forget sea levels and go to a propaganda film? I guess if I answer it you'll change the subject again? Here's a great scientist explaining it for you:

 
I think the purpose of the video was this is not a yes or no answer. We are talking even if we eliminate the extremes of global warming science and predictions, there is consensus in the science that temperatures are rising. You can pick and choose what thermometers you want to read, but I believe the science that says temperatures (global, atmospheric, sea temperatures) are rising.

And I agree global warming is being politicized by both sides to make policy changes they want. And if you want to debate POLICY change as a result of global warming, I'm all for it. Let's debate.

I disagree with a debate of the science because true scientists in this field have never said to know 100% for sure what is going to happen. Not one true scientist says that. What they are saying is after thousands of ways of looking at it, the most likely thing happening is some degree of global warming. And they are saying it deviates from how they've matched up global temperatures to non-human factors before 1950. Something has changed since 1950 to make global temperatures not match up with what else is happening with sun/volcanoes/natural causes.

No one knows how much or how fast. No one. But I do not believe it is nothing. Nor do I believe it's the end of the world right around the corner. It's in the middle. And even the middle is worth listening too and debating whether or not we need policy change.

I don't listen to your 1-2% that says man isn't effective the climate at all, just like I don't listen to the 1-2% that say the ice caps are melting in 10 years either.
 
Oceanfront property in Beaver County!!!!!!!!

Those palm trees out back at Kelly's Riverside be growing there for real.
 
I think the purpose of the video was this is not a yes or no answer. We are talking even if we eliminate the extremes of global warming science and predictions, there is consensus in the science that temperatures are rising. You can pick and choose what thermometers you want to read, but I believe the science that says temperatures (global, atmospheric, sea temperatures) are rising.

And I agree global warming is being politicized by both sides to make policy changes they want. And if you want to debate POLICY change as a result of global warming, I'm all for it. Let's debate.

I disagree with a debate of the science because true scientists in this field have never said to know 100% for sure what is going to happen. Not one true scientist says that. What they are saying is after thousands of ways of looking at it, the most likely thing happening is some degree of global warming. And they are saying it deviates from how they've matched up global temperatures to non-human factors before 1950. Something has changed since 1950 to make global temperatures not match up with what else is happening with sun/volcanoes/natural causes.

No one knows how much or how fast. No one. But I do not believe it is nothing. Nor do I believe it's the end of the world right around the corner. It's in the middle. And even the middle is worth listening too and debating whether or not we need policy change.

I don't listen to your 1-2% that says man isn't effective the climate at all, just like I don't listen to the 1-2% that say the ice caps are melting in 10 years either.

Seriously? What "policy" changes do conservatives want to make? How the hell are conservatives politicizing AGW?

Also there is NO policy change you can make in the U.S. that would effect anything anyway. China is building coal fired power plants every day. Nothing we do will stop that. Even the "experts" at the IPPC, NOAA and NASA say that nothing we do will do a damn thing.

The scientist are not saying "We've looked at it a 1000 ways." They are saying they know for sure. The problem is that every single projection they have made has been false. Sometimes these are the exact same people that cried about the coming Ice age in the 70s. I'm old enough to remember reading about it and seeing it on the news.

They don't let the science speak. They tweak it. They come up with some convoluted way of raising the temps today and lowering the temps of the past. I've read the documents. I've seen it with my own eyes. They had to get rid of the pause in temperatures so they go back and "revise" the numbers. There is NO new information... they just do it. It's a fraud. Many scientists have spoken out about this and have been fired from their jobs or denied tenure. Sometimes they have been told that they can't publish their work. Why? Because even the priests at the church of AGW know it's a fraud. They know this is political and all about control. The very idea that CO2 which is measure in parts per MILLION could effect the earth the way they are saying is asinine. CO2 only makes up .01 of the atmosphere. So you are looking at a miniscule amount especially since humans only attribute around 5% of the .01 of CO2. It's total bullshit.
 
there is consensus in the science that temperatures are rising.

Please, support this statement Del. "97% of scientists agree" cannot be used. That has been debunked 1000 times already.

Show the science. Not 'opinions.'

Because the "real" science shows absolutely no global increases in temps for 15 years.
 
Too much. Sometimes I just want to put the world on ignore and go to the old folks home in peace. This is all about the almighty dollar, plain and simple.

PARIS–Cronyism is on display here at the United Nations climate conference (COP21), as developing countries aren’t the only ones trying to cash in on carbon regulations.

The conference is full of exhibitors showcasing their carbon cutting technologies–each of which would benefit greatly from taxing carbon or forcing commitments to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The general conference arena contains rooms filled with vendors demonstrating how their business is reducing mankind’s carbon footprint. They include:

Reinsurance companies (warning against greater costs from extreme weather events).
Water systems companies.
Companies that make charging stations for electric vehicles.
Organizations dedicated to planting more trees.
Companies dedicated to capturing carbon from power plants and storing it underground.

The list is certainly exhaustive. The problem with all of them, however, is that they’re in Paris pushing for special privileges that will help their businesses at the expense of their competitors and at the expense of a competitive free market

True policy and subsidy reform would eliminate preferential treatment for all energy sources and technologies and get the federal government and international bodies like the United Nations out of the energy businesses altogether.

The world has a diverse mix of energy producers and suppliers and the demand for affordable and reliable electricity and transportation fuel isn’t going anywhere any time soon. They don’t need help; they need bureaucrats to get out of the way. Only then will we eliminate cronyism in energy policy, encourage innovation, and have the resources to protect the environment.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/10/green-cronyism-is-on-full-display-in-paris/
 
Please, support this statement Del. "97% of scientists agree" cannot be used. That has been debunked 1000 times already.

Show the science. Not 'opinions.'

Because the "real" science shows absolutely no global increases in temps for 15 years.

Well, it's just as debunked that choosing "15 years" just magically takes you back to the last big El Nino when temperatures were REALLY high (just like this year).

The truth is (and what I believe) is that climatologists can pretty accurately predict how events like solar flares, volcanoes and other natural phenomenon affect global temperatures. But since 1950, those predictions no longer hold true. For "some reason" when volcanic eruptions pushed down temperatures throughout history, they aren't pushing down temperatures as much anymore. For some reason when solar flares and El Nino's and whatever else happens, temperatures are HIGHER than predicted.

The only logical reason is human intervention with burning fossil fuels. That's the only logical answer.

In my opinion (and many scientists from around the world), there is enough evidence to change our patterns of burning fossil fuels. We don't have to know EXACTLY what's going to happen and when to err on the side of caution. I fully agree that policy change should be fair to America and take into consideration our economic well being. I fully agree we shouldn't be pushovers and allow China and India to do whatever the hell it wants and only US/Europe enact change.

But I also think taking a laissez faire attitude and let everyone do whatever the hell they want is dead wrong for this planet. If we are to continue to be world leaders as a military and diplomatic power, then we also have to lead by example in changing our policy of fossil fuel use and pollution. I think we can do it in an effective way and not impact our economic growth.

When I was younger, I used to think that the eventual scarcity of fossil fuels would increase costs and alternative energy sources would "take over" via economic factors. But the scary predictions of oil reserves back in the 1980's proved way false. And the technology of fracking and shale gas has revolutionized the fossil fuel market (and helped the environment to some degree I might add). Now it appears there is no end in sight to the prospect of cheap fossil fuel energy. At least not in the next 20-30 years.

But that amount of cheap energy via fossil fuels scares me as a conservationist and environmentalist. If the US has to do twice as much to convince India, China, Pakistan, SE Asia and emerging markets in Africa to do HALF as much, then maybe that trade off is what is best for the Earth and buys science more time to correctly predict what might be happening to the Earth from fossil fuel use.

I'm not saying I know all the answers, but I am just as skeptical of your chosen scientists and skeptics saying THEY know the answers as well. In fact, I highly doubt your opinion that man is not affecting global temperatures or climate change will have no impact on civilization. If I was a betting man (and if anyone here had to bet their house on it), I'd say it's something in the middle. We are definitely headed towards global temperature changing 1-2 degrees over the next 50 years IMO. And I disagree with people that think that will have no impact on humanity or ecosystems. Just because we don't have 100% of the answers doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything. That is a path I'm not going to vote for or support in a candidate.

I don't believe in the "conspiracy" of a vast majority of scientists that think man is impacting our environment via fossil fuel use. And I don't believe that just burning more and more because it's cheap to gain short-term economic growth (both here and around the world) is the correct course of action.
 
Sorry but that's just total non-sense. The idea that CO2 which makes up .01 of total atmosphere, is causing the temperature to rise is bull. You're dealing with parts per MILLION. If small amounts of CO2 were causing that much heating then I know what killed the dinosaurs... 1000 degree heat. The earth has had much much much more CO2 in the past and it didn't boil it.

Anybody that thinks fossil fuels are going anywhere anytime soon is living in fantasy land. There is NO alternative. Especially since tons of other things are made from them other than fuel. Everything from plastics, robotics, car battery cases, paint, epoxy, CD and DVDs, heart valves, tires ETC... are made with petroleum.

You going to fly in a solar powered plane? It just ignorant to think it's going anywhere no matter what you or anybody else thinks. BHO can't live without it. He had a hoard of people with him in Europe. The British never saw anything like it. He had his motorcade, jets and even took Marine 1 which is a helicopter. He doesn't give a damn about AGW. If he did he and the rest of the people in the church of AGW wouldn't be jet setting around the world. It's a bunch of lies.
 
Obama's climate change agenda is being swamped out by Trump news


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Sorry but that's just total non-sense. The idea that CO2 which makes up .01 of total atmosphere, is causing the temperature to rise is bull. You're dealing with parts per MILLION. If small amounts of CO2 were causing that much heating then I know what killed the dinosaurs... 1000 degree heat. The earth has had much much much more CO2 in the past and it didn't boil it.

Anybody that thinks fossil fuels are going anywhere anytime soon is living in fantasy land. There is NO alternative. Especially since tons of other things are made from them other than fuel. Everything from plastics, robotics, car battery cases, paint, epoxy, CD and DVDs, heart valves, tires ETC... are made with petroleum.

You going to fly in a solar powered plane? It just ignorant to think it's going anywhere no matter what you or anybody else thinks. BHO can't live without it. He had a hoard of people with him in Europe. The British never saw anything like it. He had his motorcade, jets and even took Marine 1 which is a helicopter. He doesn't give a damn about AGW. If he did he and the rest of the people in the church of AGW wouldn't be jet setting around the world. It's a bunch of lies.

You are confusing using petrol-chemicals in manufacturing with BURNING petrol chemicals in energy productions. Big difference on the planet's atmosphere.

And I never said we would ever eliminate ALL fossil fuel use. Although fission/fusion energy is certainly capable of producing the amount of high, intense energy needed to do anything, including flying a plane. And solar energy is certainly capable of producing most of the day-to-day energy that civilization needs.

If I was a betting man, I think eventually we will be based mostly in solar energy #1, geothermal energy #2, fission energy #3 and fossil fuels #4 by the end of the century. Those are the most realistic ideas. Wind power, hydroelectric power, tidal power all greatly impact the environment, just in different ways that I don't think are sustainable at high levels.

We are very close to being able to go "off the grid" now without any need of fossil fuels in our day-to-day lives. The most efficient (though not cost effective vs. fossil fuels at present) is probably a house/business that uses solar power to generate electricity... turns the electricity into heat/cool with geothermal heat pumps... uses the electricity for everything else.

There need to be advances in electric car technology (although when you look as Tesla we are pretty much there) and also battery/storage capabilities but those will happen in the next 20-30 years.

The BIG GRID will have to eventually probably have to be something fission oriented. Safe hydrogen/helium stuff. Not fusion with heavy isotope, radioactive stuff. I still believe that is probable in the next 100 years.
 
You are confusing using petrol-chemicals in manufacturing with BURNING petrol chemicals in energy productions. Big difference on the planet's atmosphere.

And I never said we would ever eliminate ALL fossil fuel use. Although fission/fusion energy is certainly capable of producing the amount of high, intense energy needed to do anything, including flying a plane. And solar energy is certainly capable of producing most of the day-to-day energy that civilization needs.

If I was a betting man, I think eventually we will be based mostly in solar energy #1, geothermal energy #2, fission energy #3 and fossil fuels #4 by the end of the century. Those are the most realistic ideas. Wind power, hydroelectric power, tidal power all greatly impact the environment, just in different ways that I don't think are sustainable at high levels.

We are very close to being able to go "off the grid" now without any need of fossil fuels in our day-to-day lives. The most efficient (though not cost effective vs. fossil fuels at present) is probably a house/business that uses solar power to generate electricity... turns the electricity into heat/cool with geothermal heat pumps... uses the electricity for everything else.

There need to be advances in electric car technology (although when you look as Tesla we are pretty much there) and also battery/storage capabilities but those will happen in the next 20-30 years.

The BIG GRID will have to eventually probably have to be something fission oriented. Safe hydrogen/helium stuff. Not fusion with heavy isotope, radioactive stuff. I still believe that is probable in the next 100 years.

Not confusing anything. Most liberal nuts don't want to produce petroleum at all. Your faith in solar energy is troubling because either you don't understand it or you are just a pie in the sky type of guy. The idea that solar is capable of producing most of the day-to-day energy is just nuts. Most of civilization doesn't have anywhere near enough sun light per day. You want to be in Buffalo in January with solar panels? I don't. You say you want "realism" but nothing you are proposing is realistic.

BTW who are "we"? You? The U.S.? Also where do electric cars get their electricity? Yup.. coal, hydro-electric, ETC... Damn I don't understand the liberal mind. BTW electric cars are horrible for the environment. There have been several studies that shows the environmental impact of electric cars and it isn't pretty. Also green energy has to be subsided by the tax payer or nobody would use it.
 
Well,
I don't believe in the "conspiracy" of a vast majority of scientists that think man is impacting our environment via fossil fuel use.

Our Interloper-in-Charge not only believes them grant grubbin' scientists but he'll double down in a minute and tell the world Global Warming has caused everything from jock rash to the Syrian conflict.

President Barack Obama last week tried to give us a history lesson on climate change. “As human beings are placed under strain, then bad things happen,” he said. “And, you know, if you look at world history, whenever people are desperate, when people start lacking food, when people are not able to make a living or take care of their families, that’s when ideologies arise that are dangerous.”

Welcome to leaps in logic that would span the Grand Canyon. Such leaps in logic have a name. It is called sophistry.

Vague statements about what the “science” supposedly means hang out there as mere suggestions, to be denied or embraced depending on how useful they are to the political agenda. That’s the literal meaning of sophistry: the use of subtly deceptive argumentation to make a falsehood sound true—otherwise, and crudely, known as a lie.

Can there be any question as to why so many people are so skeptical of claims made by climate change advocates? Instead of a cautious scientific method, we get alarmism and wild speculations that cannot be supported by the facts.

I suggest that the president take some courses in history and logic. Somehow he must have missed them at Columbia. If he doesn’t want to do that, then perhaps he can at least spare us the inane world history lessons.

5 Facts the Left Isn't Trumpeting About Paris and Climate Change
http://click.heritage.org/heplgPH00M000KsEr130TIY


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I live just outside of Pittsburgh, it's the middle of December, and I mowed my yard today. Global warming, wooooo!!!!!
 
Woo-hoo!

it's over!

They cured Global Warming!

Glad that's over with, we never have to hear about it again.

If every rich country just hands over 1 billion every year for the next 30 years to poor countries then Global Warming is Solved!!!

That means we never have to talk about it again - I am so glad to hear this.
 
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