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Riddle Me This! Why Byron Leftwich?

Superman said:
a lot of the Bucs' offensive woes can be traced directly to the OL and Brady. Many of his throws were hurried and either short or WAY over the WR's head. They had some OL injuries early in the season, and I think rushing their OC back to start this game hurt them. They looked really disjointed last night. Which put me in a quandary. I hate Brady and never want him to win. I also hate the Cowboys, never want them to win and would still hate them if they were playing Nazi Germany.
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Never so clearly shown as last night. Now i hope the 49ers just dummy them.
 
Badcat said:
Okay...if this is the case then why fire the OC? The same case can be made for Matt Canada. New offensive line, new QB learning the system and limiting plays (predictable), benched for a rookie still learning the system, RB was injured but tried to play through it and left the run game struggling.

So, let's fire Canada and bring in someone new with a new offense and terminology. Hope your personnel fit in this new offensive scheme.
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I believe Leftwich has had success in the NFL (last year). Canaduh has been a failure everywhere except for 1 season in college.
 
To me this is all about right fit for KP. they can not bounce 3 or 4 guys in 4 years like Alex Smith in San Fran. He needs stability and one system, but if that system is **** you gotta move on.
 
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Chargers just let go of Joe Lombardi and QB coach

I know they had a collapse in a huge game .......... but they still put of 30 points ........
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Now this would be a hire that makes sense.
 
slashsteel said:
Now this would be a hire that makes sense.
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The Chargers did put up 30, but they also had 5 turnovers. The offense did not do a whole lot with those turnovers. SD seems to be super hot or cold. Seems like there were quite a few games the offense really struggled. I haven't watched them too much, but have not seen anything that stuck out as terrible.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
I maybe watched 30 min of Chargers football. Can you explain why?
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Lombardi is Vince's grandson
played TE at Air Force
Atlanta under Jim Mora
Detroit under Caldwell short stint
New Orleans QB coach during Drew Brees superbowl and 4 of his 5 years passing for 5000 plus yards
2nd stint with New Orleans
Chargers OC with Herbert beginning his career tremendously

He has been around some pretty great offensive programs and HCs

He brings more to the table than Canada and Leftwich in my personal opinion
 
I would bring in Leftwich… he has been fired from an OC position twice but realistically if everyone here wants a vet experienced OC, you probably aren’t gonna get one that hasn’t occasionally been fired.

The Tampa issues this year were deeper than Leftwich, who was always a bright offensive minded player back in the day. Remember . Bwady forced out Arians so he could have more control of the offense… so whatever happened this year is probably more reflective of Tb12* than any OC

My only concern is that Leftwich might be a guy they bring in but then let Tomlin really run the offense and we get the same fichner offense that we ran up till the post bye this year…
 
Paul G said:
Lombardi is Vince's grandson
played TE at Air Force
Atlanta under Jim Mora
Detroit under Caldwell short stint
New Orleans QB coach during Drew Brees superbowl and 4 of his 5 years passing for 5000 plus yards
2nd stint with New Orleans
Chargers OC with Herbert beginning his career tremendously

He has been around some pretty great offensive programs and HCs

He brings more to the table than Canada and Leftwich in my personal opinion
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If he is Vince's grandkid, good enough for me. We can run the power wing.
 
When your QB throws almost 70 times last night not much you get out of what an OC can or can't do.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Was there an OC who did less with more?

I would not be interested in Lombardi and a big reason is this. Kenny Pickett's average depth of target was 7.5 yards. Herbert's was just 6.4 yards. I'm over the short passing attack.
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Good point I was just thinking about their offense in general. Seemed to be more productive. Who are you liking right now?
 
@madinsomniac I think Lefty was fired once if it happens in Tampa. He was an interem OC in ARI but never held the job officially.

Also Lefty did coach Winston's 30 TD season.
 
Stryker said:
@madinsomniac I think Lefty was fired once if it happens in Tampa. He was an interem OC in ARI but never held the job officially.

Also Lefty did coach Winston's 30 TD season.
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I thought he had an interim year tgen was an outright OC for a season but was let go with the HC change there… you are right… he was just interim
 
Just think about how much we could ***** about this guy!
 
madinsomniac said:
I thought he had an interim year tgen was an outright OC for a season but was let go with the HC change there… you are right… he was just interim
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Yea, from his Wiki:

Arizona Cardinals (2016)
Coaching intern
Arizona Cardinals (2017–2018)
Quarterbacks coach
Arizona Cardinals (2018)
Interim offensive coordinator
 
slashsteel said:
Good point I was just thinking about their offense in general. Seemed to be more productive. Who are you liking right now?
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I had a big list in another thread, but forget which one. But knowing how the Steelers operate, the next OC has to have some sort of connect with the team or the city.

*Mark Whipple - Ben's QB coach and Kenny Pickett's OC at Pitt
*Duce Staley - played in Pittsburgh and coached in Philadelphia
*Any current member of the offensive staff - Tomlin likes to promote from within
*Charlie Batch - it does not get more hometown than Batch
*Todd Haley - Dick LeBeau left and came back, why not Todd Haley? The offense was good the last time he was around
*Byron Leftwich - Former player and was just fired, so he's free
*Nathaniel Hackett - son of Paul Hackett, who coached at Pitt

I kinda buy into the idea that has been suggested the Steelers will hire an offensive consultant to assistant with the offense as they did with Teryl Austin and he'll move into the OC role in 2024. It'll likely be an older coach (above 50) who recently failed with another team and was relegated to a position coach or was out of football.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I had a big list in another thread, but forget which one. But knowing how the Steelers operate, the next OC has to have some sort of connect with the team or the city.

*Mark Whipple - Ben's QB coach and Kenny Pickett's OC at Pitt
*Duce Staley - played in Pittsburgh and coached in Philadelphia
*Any current member of the offensive staff - Tomlin likes to promote from within
*Charlie Batch - it does not get more hometown than Batch
*Todd Haley - Dick LeBeau left and came back, why not Todd Haley? The offense was good the last time he was around
*Byron Leftwich - Former player and was just fired, so he's free
*Nathaniel Hackett - son of Paul Hackett, who coached at Pitt

I kinda buy into the idea that has been suggested the Steelers will hire an offensive consultant to assistant with the offense as they did with Teryl Austin and he'll move into the OC role in 2024. It'll likely be an older coach (above 50) who recently failed with another team and was relegated to a position coach or was out of football.
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Yeah I remember talking about Hackett. Interesting choice. All for the consult idea. Lefty is still employed I believe.

Whipple would make some sense.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I had a big list in another thread, but forget which one. But knowing how the Steelers operate, the next OC has to have some sort of connect with the team or the city.

*Mark Whipple - Ben's QB coach and Kenny Pickett's OC at Pitt
*Duce Staley - played in Pittsburgh and coached in Philadelphia
*Any current member of the offensive staff - Tomlin likes to promote from within
*Charlie Batch - it does not get more hometown than Batch
*Todd Haley - Dick LeBeau left and came back, why not Todd Haley? The offense was good the last time he was around
*Byron Leftwich - Former player and was just fired, so he's free
*Nathaniel Hackett - son of Paul Hackett, who coached at Pitt

I kinda buy into the idea that has been suggested the Steelers will hire an offensive consultant to assistant with the offense as they did with Teryl Austin and he'll move into the OC role in 2024. It'll likely be an older coach (above 50) who recently failed with another team and was relegated to a position coach or was out of football.
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Charlie Batch is out. He specifically said on the air after the season closer that he had absolutely no intention of coaching because other things in his life were priorities and coaching eats up all of your time… so he falls in with janes farrior as the most obvious coaching candidates that just don’t want to do it.. ( fyi the smartest guys rarely actually go into coaching because, well.. tgey are actually smart and not just smart for an nfl player smart… lol
 
stillwright said:
I have more of an issue with the fact Canada hasn't been fired yet. That if Leftwich get fired than we will fire Canada and hire Leftwich. If Leftwich doesn't get fired we will roll with Canada for another year. So there is no one else out there to replace Canada?
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I'd replace Canada with the Federated States of Micronesia, or Paraguay.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Was there an OC who did less with more?

I would not be interested in Lombardi and a big reason is this. Kenny Pickett's average depth of target was 7.5 yards. Herbert's was just 6.4 yards. I'm over the short passing attack.
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Keenan Allen missed about 6 games and Mike Williams missed 4 games I believe ........

Herbert was 2nd to Mahomes in yardage ........ 25T to 10 Int ........... and this was his bad year ...... after seeing Canada all year I would take Vince Lombardi's granddaughter
 
Confluence said:
I'd replace Canada with the Federated States of Micronesia, or Paraguay.
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What would this new Country be called…………?


Salute the nation
 
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