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San Bernandino, CA - Shootings

Vincent said:
Don't agree. Emigrate You're free to do so. Try the UK. They don't have any guns. They speak English. But be careful because the muzloids have 'no go' zones and they like to walk up to people on the street and hack them to bits. Y'know, no guns to defend themselves.



Really? How else do you criticize obama?
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Nope. I'm just going to vote for enough liberals until all you rednecks decide to leave to form your own country somewhere since you've got everything figured out.
 
I don't get the no-fly list. If someone is suspicious enough to not be allowed on a fricking plane then bring his sorry *** in for some water boarding.
 
deljzc said:
Nope. I'm just going to vote for enough liberals until all you rednecks decide to leave to form your own country somewhere since you've got everything figured out.
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Good luck with that. You're going to be way outnumbered this election. And yes, we do have everything figured out.
 
deljzc said:
I agree with a lot of that.

I'm all for legal gun ownership in a reasonable way. I really am. But someone needs to explain to me how having 1 out of every 4 guns in the world within our boarders is reasonable gun ownership. And many here promote MORE guns as the answer.

If we do decide that having 250 million guns in this country is acceptable, then I want more regulation on them. Like cars. Insurance, titles, required competence testing, proof/record of sales.

Trading/selling guns shouldn't be like trading/buying baseball cards. I just don't see the harm in saying if you want to legally own a gun, you have to prove to the State that you have some maturity and responsibility. Nothing different than how we treat driving/owning a car.

And when we decide on said system/laws, we really prosecute those that break the law or commit crimes with illegal guns.

Guns today aren't the muskets our forefathers knew about when writing the 2nd amendment. With increased killing power, I think it's reasonable to demand increased regulation, training and licensing. We can then reasonable discuss increase responsibilities for increased firepower. Maybe hunting shotguns on the low end of regulation, handguns in the middle and any assault-style rifles on the high side of regulation.

I just don't agree with a strict literal interpretation of the 2nd amendment to mean any "gun". I just don't.
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My guess is that you would be against the pole tax to vote. I would also guess you are against bills of attainder where the government simply declares you a criminal because they don't like you. Well that is what this stuff does. It places unreasonable restrictions on the free excercise of rights.
 
deljzc said:
Nope. I'm just going to vote for enough liberals until all you rednecks decide to leave to form your own country somewhere since you've got everything figured out.
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Beautiful, then you libfucks should be happy to tax yourselves to death and open your wallets to anyone that feels entitled to it without conservatives bitching about it.....and of course no one would have guns, well, except for the inner city thugs which of course would choose remain with you white guilt liberals....you could also do away with the military and border patrol and coexist happily with muzzies who are trying to kill you.....we'll take the smelly oil, diesel, and jet fuel with us while you continue to develop the solar powered passenger jet....

There's more...

–We’ll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street.
–You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies and illegal aliens.

–We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks.
–We’ll keep Bill O?Reilly, and Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .
–You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.
–You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.
–We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values.
–You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N. but we will no longer be paying the bill.
–We’ll keep the SUV’s, pickup trucks and over-sized luxury cars You can take every Volt and Leaf you can find.
–You can give everyone health-care if you can find any practicing doctors.
–We’ll keep “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” and “The National Anthem.”
–I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute “Imagine”, “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing”, “Kum Ba Ya” or “We Are the World”.
–We’ll practice trickle-down economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.
–Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.


Yeah you ******* really got it figured out.

The truth is that you need conservatives more than conservatives need libfucks...in fact we don't need you at all. The country would thrive.
 
Ironcitysteelers said:
I would so crush ms dash.
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yeah - she can spend her holiday with me

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deljzc said:
Guns today aren't the muskets our forefathers knew about when writing the 2nd amendment. With increased killing power, I think it's reasonable to demand increased regulation, training and licensing.
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Jesus, I'm so ******* tired of hearing that regurgitated line from HuffPo and every other Libtard rag out there.

Del, the 2nd Ammendment is about protecting us from our OWN Government. From a tyrannical government. So you want to curtail what we can own, because, well..."guns today aren't the muskets our forefathers knew about when writing the 2nd amendment." News flash, Einstein - when our forefathers wrote the Constitution, the Government didn't have M1-Abrams, F-16s, and laser guided bombs.

Curtailing "what" a civilian can own only gives more and more power to the Government. And THAT is what the forefathers aimed to address with the 2nd Amendment - our ability to defend ourselves from a corrupt government.

Got it?
 
Blame Obama!

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BWAhahahahaha
 
ark steel said:
See, I would say that the forefathers realized that the people we need to protect ourselves from wouldn't always have muskets, too. They, specifically, did not limit it so and, specifically, didn't mention hunting.

I'd still like to know what "assault weapons" or "assault-style" weapons are. The TV the other day even used the phrase "assault-style clothing". A commercially available AR 15 has no different function than a regular .223 rifle. Both fire 1 shot per trigger pull. One looks "scarier".
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2 weeks ago, I had the real privilege of having my 13 year old join me hunting (you got to meet him Ark, the tiny one LOL). He's a slight fella, only about 85 lbs soaking wet (his older brother was the opposite - heavier/taller). Last year, he hunted with a .410 shotgun. Poor guy. IF a deer had come into view (one did but he couldn't get a shot), the slug would have hit the ground after 50 yards. He was 12 then. So this year, I upgraded him to my Grandmother's (yes you read that right - my Grandmother's) .243 rifle. I took him to a shooting range and he was a dead-eye shot.

I shoot a 7mm-08. It's "bigger." It's not "big." We gave the 85-lb boy the .243 because it's a smaller, manageable caliber. But hell, I hunted with a .243 into my 40s.

Most people don't understand calibers though. A .243 is a "small game" round. Deer? Yes. Elk, moose? No. Very very fast bullet, but not a big "ballistic" bullet.

The DC Snipers wreaked havoc across the country, specifically around the DC area, with a .223 caliber rifle. Smaller than a .243.

Most people don't realize that the .223 is a small caliber round. Smaller than most deer rifles. Fast yes, but not "amazing" kill power.

Point is, you can make a .22 look like an "assault rifle" with a folding stock, etc. and make it look scary. But it's still a .22, not a .223 or a .243. Doesn't mean it can't kill. I went to HS with a young man who unfortunately put a .22 to his head and pulled the trigger and died. Suicide.

Most guns can kill. A pellet gun can kill. Stand in front of me, let me point it at your eye, and pull the trigger. It's slightly more than a BB-gun.

Libtards crack me up with their utter stupidity on these issues.

My 13 year old walked around with a .243 on his shoulder for 4 days in the woods...fell asleep next to it at one point, bored of the whole hunting thing while I watched for game...not knowing he was next to more kill power than the DC snipers had. And not a soul was harmed.

Not even a mouse.
 
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My son was 10 years old last year and killed a deer with a .410 slug at 75 yards. He is one of the best shots I've ever seen for his age. He can shot a .357 S&W magnum with .38 wad cutters and hit a paper plate from 30 yards (Not feet but yards).

Anyway, like Tim said, most liberals have no idea about guns. They don't understand calibers, types of weapons and the differences between them. It's funny watching liberals talk about "assault" weapons. There are weapons EXACTLY like the "assault" weapons but they don't have a folding stock and don't have the fancy military style but work the EXACT same way. I've been around weapons my entire life. I grew up with rifles, shotguns and pistols all over the house. I was stripping a rifle and cleaning it by the time I was 10 years old. It's just sheer ignorance that is driving this "Assault" weapon BS. They don't know what they are talking about. You could change the plastic stocks with walnut and remove the folding stock and Islamic terrorist would still use them.
 
I started hunting with a 20 gauge / pumpkin balls. Then my g-pap bought me a 30-30. I loved that thing. It was small, light, and short. I could go over or under everything with it and it was plenty powerful enough to kill a deer. I shot a buck at full stride about 50 yards away and it dropped dead on the spot. I only hunted for a few years. My g-pap was hardcore then he got sick (cancer) and could not go out like he used to. After the first couple hours if I was not frozen I would just take a nap under a tree. I would also bring peanuts tied to fishing line and play with the squirrels. Sitting out there in the cold is just not for me.
 
Funny that we've gotten to a place where a Liberal's worst nightmare is that some would-be terrorists will be stopped by a law-abiding gun owner.
 
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