Shamsud Din Jabbar

[Badcat]

No, I am not. I have no problem with that information. I do not understand why is is off to you. They met up, had anti-American leanings and decided to coordinate acting on those meetings. Makes sense to me.

Or, it is an insane coincidence.

You choose.

The questions I have is 1. did their service time on base overlap, if so, by how much time? 2. What was their MOS?

This may have the underpinning of recruitment focused on the base, and what skill sets would the recruiters target?

 

[Sarge]

The questions I have is 1. did their service time on base overlap, if so, by how much time? 2. What was their MOS?

This may have the underpinning of recruitment focused on the base, and what skill sets would the recruiters target?

The one dude was a Human Resources specialist. Worked the S-1, dealing with soldiers paperwork. Then he became an IT specialist. If I’m recruiting for a suicide mission, I’m not recruiting a REMF or a fobbit. I want combat arms guys, not office personnel.

 

[Sarge]

The questions I have is 1. did their service time on base overlap, if so, by how much time? 2. What was their MOS?

This may have the underpinning of recruitment focused on the base, and what skill sets would the recruiters target?

Did they even know each other? I served 24 years. On a base of 20,000 soldiers, I might have known 50 or 60. While it is entirely possible they knew each other, I’d say it’s unlikely.

 

[Steelr4evr]

This doesn't make any sense at all, well other than wanting to bump himself off with a bang and fireworks.

 

[Sarge]

This doesn't make any sense at all, well other than wanting to bump himself off with a bang and fireworks.

Dude apparently shot himself in the head too.

I’m to believe the guy hated Biden so much that he packed a car (a Tesla no less) with gas and fireworks, drove to Trump Tower, lit the fuse and shot himself in the head?

Nah. This guy was SF. He would have done better than that. Hell Timothy McVeigh was a damn gunner on a Bradley and he made a bomb out a Ryder Truck with various chemicals, primarily fertilizer.

Doesn’t sound right, but who knows. These terrorists seem to get dead right away, so we never find out their true motives. Maybe the guy was a patsy, maybe the guy was just crazy.

 

[Tibs]

Nah. This guy was SF. He would have done better than that. Hell Timothy McVeigh was a damn gunner on a Bradley and he made a bomb out a Ryder Truck with various chemicals, primarily fertilizer.

Doesn’t sound right, but who knows. These terrorists seem to get dead right away, so we never find out their true motives. Maybe the guy was a patsy, maybe the guy was just crazy.

Agreed, Sarge. Something seems off about this, unless he was some wigged-out weirdo. Strange occurances…

The man connected to the rental of the Tesla Cybertruck that exploded outside of the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas on Wednesday is a US Special Forces soldier assigned to 10th Special Forces Group, per 4 US officials.
The man is a US Army special forces operations sergeant, holding the rank of master sergeant, a senior enlisted rank, the officials said. Three officials said he was on active duty and was on leave from Germany, where he was serving with 10th Group, at the time of the incident.

 

[Djfan]

Agreed, Sarge. Something seems off about this, unless he was some wigged-out weirdo. Strange occurances…

OK, so now I really wonder what is off to you about them both serving at the same base. Any response?

 

[str8liner]

Sorry, this is absolutely nuts. But carry on.

So you think think he would have came out and admitted it was and illegal after his open border policy the last 4 years?
Yea that is nuts.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Bidumb even acted like he was all giddy that it was a US citizen. That is the only reason he came out and said that yesterday.

Guarantee you if it was an illegal he wouldn't have said a word.

If he had an American-sounding name like Joe Smith or Timothy McVeigh they wouldn’t feel a need to remind us every ten minutes that he is a US citizen.

 

[xjx]

They always shoot themselves or by cop. We never get to hear their story. Maybe Hollywood will make a movie . The transformed America Obama promised.

 

[jitter77]

Dude apparently shot himself in the head too.

I’m to believe the guy hated Biden so much that he packed a car (a Tesla no less) with gas and fireworks, drove to Trump Tower, lit the fuse and shot himself in the head?

Nah. This guy was SF. He would have done better than that. Hell Timothy McVeigh was a damn gunner on a Bradley and he made a bomb out a Ryder Truck with various chemicals, primarily fertilizer.

Doesn’t sound right, but who knows. These terrorists seem to get dead right away, so we never find out their true motives. Maybe the guy was a patsy, maybe the guy was just crazy.

Something is definitely off. The guy was supposedly a hardcore Trump guy was well. Maybe he hates Musk? Seems too symbolic to use a cybertruck in front of a Trump hotel, but still makes 0 sense to do this as Trump supporter. He had multiple properties and an ex wife, but just had a baby with his new lady so who knows.

 

[Tibs]

OK, so now I really wonder what is off to you about them both serving at the same base. Any response?

Trying to wrap my head around why this is such a mystery to you, that I find it peculiar. If there were two isolated terror attacks at two locations, one in Vegas, one in New Orleans, one carried out by a Trump supporter who offed himself in a Tesla, and another by a ISIS-loving Texan who massacred innocents, and they both served at the same base, presumably at the same time, seems to be a bit odd, wouldn't you say? It would be odd if they knew each other, or knew of each other's nefarious NYE plans, and also odd if they didn't, and just happened to serve on the same base coincidentally. Also, I haven't connected any dots, or made any statements about it, just felt weird to me. Who knows what the connection is, if any. Evidently it doesn't seem strange to you. No harm, no foul.

 

[Tibs]

Faux News, cBS, etc all have biased motives. I don't believe a ******* thing any of them report.

It's not just media outlets you should be wary of for "having biased motives."

Trump’s False Claim: Hours after the attack, President-elect Donald Trump falsely suggested on social media that the suspect was an immigrant. Officials later identified the attacker as a U.S.-born citizen and Army veteran.

 

[Djfan]

Trying to wrap my head around why this is such a mystery to you, that I find it peculiar. If there were two isolated terror attacks at two locations, one in Vegas, one in New Orleans, one carried out by a Trump supporter who offed himself in a Tesla, and another by a ISIS-loving Texan who massacred innocents, and they both served at the same base, presumably at the same time, seems to be a bit odd, wouldn't you say? It would be odd if they knew each other, or knew of each other's nefarious NYE plans, and also odd if they didn't, and just happened to serve on the same base coincidentally. Also, I haven't connected any dots, or made any statements about it, just felt weird to me. Who knows what the connection is, if any. Evidently it doesn't seem strange to you. No harm, no foul.

I equally don't know what was odd to you. Seems like a no-brainer to me. My guess is that the guy in Vegas was suffering from severe PTSD. SF will do that to a guy. Is it possible that it was coordinated? Sure. Is it possible that they never met and had absolutely nothing to do with each other? Equally sure. Like you, I'm guessing. We just don't know.

I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that you haven't tried to connect any dots. That's human nature, Sir. Despite the claims of a few here, I am pretty sure you are human.

I am further surprised that you are commenting on a statement by Trump, who has built a career and persona of shooting from the hip. That's just who he is.

 

[Tibs]

So you think think he would have came out and admitted it was and illegal after his open border policy the last 4 years?
Yea that is nuts.

Trump and his sycophants don’t want you to know this, but Illegal border crossings are at a 4-year low.

The last time numbers were this low was July 2020—when Trump was president.

Were you crying about, “open borders,” back then? If not, what changed?

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Trump and his sycophants don’t want you to know this, but Illegal border crossings are at a 4-year low.

The last time numbers were this low was July 2020—when Trump was president.

Were you crying about, “open borders,” back then? If not, what changed?

Everyone is already here?

 

[Tibs]

Everyone is already here?

Fair enough. Solid answer, Zona.

 

[Djfan]

Fair enough. Solid answer, Zona.

Crossing at the border? Maybe, but the outgoing admin flew some in on chartered airline flights. Make sure those are counted in the data.

 

[BLITZ]

Trump and his sycophants don’t want you to know this, but Illegal border crossings are at a 4-year low.

The last time numbers were this low was July 2020—when Trump was president.

Were you crying about, “open borders,” back then? If not, what changed?

Zona beat me to it.

But it took fear of losing the election to get the Democrats to do anything about the border. for the last 3.5 years, if you wanted in, you got in.

 

[Tibs]

Zona beat me to it.

But it took fear of losing the election to get the Democrats to do anything about the border. for the last 3.5 years, if you wanted in, you got in.

How bout Trump nixing the bipartisan border bill to help his chances in the election? What’s your take on that?

 

[Hypocycloids]

Sorry, this is absolutely nuts. But carry on.

No it is not absolutely nuts.
Had it been an illegal, Biden would have under no circumstances mentioned that.

 

[BLITZ]

How bout Trump nixing the bipartisan border bill to help his chances in the election? What’s your take on that?

sounds like you are trying to change the subject

 

[madinsomniac]

Dude apparently shot himself in the head too.

I’m to believe the guy hated Biden so much that he packed a car (a Tesla no less) with gas and fireworks, drove to Trump Tower, lit the fuse and shot himself in the head?

Nah. This guy was SF. He would have done better than that. Hell Timothy McVeigh was a damn gunner on a Bradley and he made a bomb out a Ryder Truck with various chemicals, primarily fertilizer.

Doesn’t sound right, but who knows. These terrorists seem to get dead right away, so we never find out their true motives. Maybe the guy was a patsy, maybe the guy was just crazy.

You know.. the Tesla certainly could be a statement on Musk... but it also is one of the only cars that can be driven remotely

The second i heard he was shot in the head, i suspected he was just a patsy...

 

[Djfan]

How bout Trump nixing the bipartisan border bill to help his chances in the election? What’s your take on that?

Tibs, think with me here.

No candidate, NOT ONE, nor any elected official, does all things right, well, virtuously. Deal with that.

While I voted for Trump, I voted for the major candidate who was closest to my views on most things. She was a garbage candidate, and offered more nonsense. So, I held my nose and voted Trump. Does that mean that I have to go get a Trump tramp stamp tattoo? No.

So, because that is the way it all works, there will be times when Trump or whomever is in office, does things that I don't like. But, because my view on things differs TREMENDOUSLY from anything the dems have to offer of late, I will find much more to disagree with from that side of the sewer.

I was pissed at Trump for the stimulus garbage he caved into. I was happy with Obama when he decided to make sure every flight had Xrays before boarding.

So, I'll type this slowly so you get it - most every person who supports Trump did so knowing that he will mess a few things up. And, he will piss me off at times. But, unless you're an abortion professional, or trans, you will be benefitted MUCH better by Trump's economic moves than by hers. She was a tool and a disaster.

Simple.

Get it now? Get it?

 

[Tibs]

So, I'll type this slowly so you get it -

How very cordial of you.