So I'm trying to work out the LOGIC...

[wig]

When people do **** that seems odd, generally their behavior can be tracked down, ultimately, to some kind of logic. Even if we don't agree with the logic, we can at least recognize that a chain of thought lead to a series of actions that would hopefully result in a desired outcome.

So with that in mind, I ask myself what the "end game" is for the democrats if in fact Trump is just going to epic landslide this election. If that is truly the case, they MUST know it. They must know if their polling is as flawed and biased as many of us suspect. So, if they KNOW Biden is going to get his *** kicked, why continue the narrative that he's winning. Indeed, winning handily across the nation?

On one hand, to say Biden is up 9 or 10 points only to sit and watch him get utterly destroyed, causing untold pain and anguish for the relatively few supporters he has seems cruel and frankly masochistic. What purpose does it serve to mislead Biden supporters to think he's killing it and will win easily?

On the negative side, you risk encouraging people to actually NOT vote for Joe as they assume he's got it in the bag.
Now, one could argue that the hope is that Trump supporters will see the polls and be discouraged to vote since Joe's clearly "got this". But I don't think ANYBODY believes that Trump supporters aren't going to make every possible effort to vote and support their candidate. One thing Tibs is right about is that Trump supporters are passionately loyal. They WILL vote. And polls don't mean **** to them.

So, where's the upside to misleading people about how far ahead Joe is? Where's the logic?

The only thing I can think of is a "fallback" position if/when Biden loses. They will say "He was SO FAR AHEAD in the polls and then lost. The republicans CHEATED!" That will bring us back to another 4 years of ******* Russia Russia Russia.

The ONLY thing I can see that makes sense is either that Joe REALLY Is leading in the hearts of the American people (I find that hard to believe given the stark contrast between the two candidates' rallies) OR that the democrats are simply posturing for epic whine-fest 2.0.

 

[wig]

And one would think that the democrats would be so much better served (if they lose this election) taking a step back and honestly trying to determine where the **** they've gone wrong and lost the country.

They'd have 4 years to come up with and execute an actual plan!

 

[Steeltime]

And one would think that the democrats would be so much better served (if they lose this election) taking a step back and honestly trying to determine where the **** they've gone wrong and lost the country.

They'd have 4 years to come up with and execute an actual plan!

You presume today's (D)ims are the same as yesteryear's (D)ims, but they're not. Just like Joe Biden has turned from a politician who knew that unfettered government spending is a major problem and who tried to do something to stem the explosion of violent crime in our cities, to a craven, greedy, lying front man, the (D)im party is now a front for extremists, violent agitators, commies and socialists.

It is happening right before our eyes, but the lapdog media is pretending that war is peace, and violence is peaceful.

 

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[Djfan]

I think that they are convinced that the cheating in the voting process will carry them.

 

[Sarge]

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That's a nice idea, but ammo is pretty limited right now unless you want shotgun shells. You can find them anywhere.

 

[Djfan]

That's a nice idea, but ammo is pretty limited right now unless you want shotgun shells. You can find them anywhere.

A shotgun is a great home defense weapon.

 

[Sarge]

A shotgun is a great home defense weapon.

Indeed.

 

[Steeltime]

That's a nice idea, but ammo is pretty limited right now unless you want shotgun shells. You can find them anywhere.

Wow, I post an uplifting message to increase youth optimism and you ...

Oh, I see what I did there.

 

[Djfan]

Indeed.

And, you can't use the rifling on the recovered round to trace it to a weapon.

 

[SteelChip]

A shotgun is a great home defense weapon.

Yeah, as to Sarges question. You don't think the end game is not a wholesale riot when Trumps wins ? There can be no other explanation. My tin hat is vibrating about this latest crack head that committed "Death by Cop". Things have been too quiet and martyrs for the cause are sittin' right there on the stoop. A couple dime bags, some snort and a bottle of Mad Dog and your boy is ready do anything you say....MFer sheeat.

That shotgun better be loaded too.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

They are setting up a scenario where they declare the election illegitimate and call for Trump to be removed from office. Or at a minimum they are justifying another 4 years of investigation into anything they drum up. They have to stop him from draining the swamp at any cost.

 

[madinsomniac]

They are setting up a scenario where they declare the election illegitimate and call for Trump to be removed from office. Or at a minimum they are justifying another 4 years of investigation into anything they drum up. They have to stop him from draining the swamp at any cost.

Exactly... don’t just read tge conservative sites... tge liberal sites have been pushing the narrative that the Republicans are throwing out mail in ballots and not counting late ballots so Its illegitimate... they disenfranchised everyone

A lot of speculation is there will be riots near voting areas and governors will try to extend the voting due to emergency circumstances... when the republicans sue to shut it down they will cry disenfranchisement

 

[Djfan]

I think the probability is huge. I'm pretty set in Wyoming, though.

 

[Steelr4evr]

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Even better. Make ammo. I need to get into this hobby both of my uncles did for many years.

Brass&primers would be the biggest issue nowadays.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I have several shotguns. Been thinking about sawing one off, you know..for...

Anyone have a guide? Or is it as simple as lopping off the end with a hacksaw?

Oh...I'm asking for a friend...not me...sorry to confuse.

 

[Djfan]

 

[Ron Burgundy]

The Dims and media need to keep their base energized. Saying that Trump is ahead in the polls won't do that. if everyone is reporting that Biden is 3 to 5 points back, their voters can't be bothered to show up. BUT....if everyone is reporting that Biden is ahead and ends up losing then they have an excuse to challenge or extend the election and riot. Frankly I think that Trump will win pretty much the same states he did in 2016 and the electoral votes, Biden will win the popular vote because NY and CA, and the Dims can be pissed and demand to get rid of the Electoral College all over again. Mostly gotta hope that the Reps hold the Senate and win the House.

 

[jitter77]

I don't think you can relate rallies to enthusiasm. All You have to do is look at Bernie Sanders. He was the one who could draw Trump like crowds and he got stomped by Biden and Hillary. Trumps main base is fanatic and would probably jump off a cliff for him, but overall it's a small percentage of people. I look at it like 2 different football fans. You got the guys who goto the games, paint their face, go shirtless, and scream / yell constantly. On the other hand you have the fans who invite a few people over to their house eat some grub and chill out while watching. Both can be hardcore fans just different approaches.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

I don't think you can relate rallies to enthusiasm. All You have to do is look at Bernie Sanders. He was the one who could draw Trump like crowds and he got stomped by Biden and Hillary. Trumps main base is fanatic and would probably jump off a cliff for him, but overall it's a small percentage of people. I look at it like 2 different football fans. You got the guys who goto the games, paint their face, go shirtless, and scream / yell constantly. On the other hand you have the fans who invite a few people over to their house eat some grub and chill out while watching. Both can be hardcore fans just different approaches.

When did Bernie get stomped? He beat Hillary until they rigged the primaries to give her the nomination. This year's primaries were essentially called off. There were backroom deals made to make each Dem pretty much accept Biden. Biden would never have survived a normal primary process. He would have been destroyed in debates. he already was. Bernie was bought off by being told Biden would adopt the green new deal. Warren was told she'd be in the cabinet, or may even have been told she'll be Vice President once Biden resigns from dementia.

 

[SojournerSteel]

I don't think you can relate rallies to enthusiasm. All You have to do is look at Bernie Sanders. He was the one who could draw Trump like crowds and he got stomped by Biden and Hillary. Trumps main base is fanatic and would probably jump off a cliff for him, but overall it's a small percentage of people. I look at it like 2 different football fans. You got the guys who goto the games, paint their face, go shirtless, and scream / yell constantly. On the other hand you have the fans who invite a few people over to their house eat some grub and chill out while watching. Both can be hardcore fans just different approaches.

Or more like Bernie got cheated/screwed by Hillary and Biden DNC, Inc.

The Dem Primary process is like NFL preseason or war gaming for refining their playbook and cheating.

Seth Rich worked with DNC analytics in 2016, saw the game was rigged, and leaked the emails to Assange.

Then he joined the Clinton body count.

 

[SojournerSteel]

When did Bernie get stomped? He beat Hillary until they rigged the primaries to give her the nomination. This year's primaries were essentially called off. There were backroom deals made to make each Dem pretty much accept Biden. Biden would never have survived a normal primary process. He would have been destroyed in debates. he already was. Bernie was bought off by being told Biden would adopt the green new deal. Warren was told she'd be in the cabinet, or may even have been told she'll be Vice President once Biden resigns from dementia.

Biden had never won a state primary in 3 cycles until the deal was made and Clyburn told the plantation in SC to support Biden.

It was like the Make-A-Wish Moment at the Spring Game when the jocks ease up, hand the ball to the special needs youngster, and form a feel good convoy to the End Zone.

 

[jitter77]

Biden was left for dead and ended up with a 1600 delegate lead. Hillary beat Bernie by 3mil votes and 1k delegates. You can say what you want about how they got there, but crowd size didn't matter for Bernie. Without the Bernie bots being pissed at the Dems and hillary who knows if Trump would have won or not. Some states were really close.

 

[wig]

Well, based on shown support, we know unquestionably if Biden "wins" it was due to rampant election fraud.

 

[Steelr4evr]

The demoncrat party has proved beyond any reasonable doubt that the end justifies all means to attain it. The have no standards,ethics or moral compass whatsoever. You can't even argue for them after the last 4 years. The treasonous actions against the office of the president alone convicts. If you add in the actions of govenors to oppress a free people for over 7 months and counting. The complete disregard for public safety by letting mobs of anarchist criminals riot, steal,burn,destroy,assault and kill to a tune of well over 3 billion in damages with even more permanent damage to livelihoods, you know anything goes.


Cheating is childplay and justified if the means is gained. It's not hard to.figure out what's going on.