Steelers - Chiefs game thread #TheCardiacKids

[SteelerInLebanon]

NO HE IS SLOW....And he runs sideline to sideline...Dude needs major off-season work...

 

[Steelr4evr]

3,2,1...thank God it's over

 

[Steelmann]

No, he will not be a great guard. Jesus, thank God most teams don't run a 3-4 so he rarely has a defensive lineman directly on his nose. Put him up against NFL defensive tackles, and the ***-stomping will not get better.

Second, of course I blame him for sucking. Yeah, the team made a stupid decision in passing on Humphrey and taking this guy, but HE is the one that sucked.

Well. He was a Left Guard in College. Why they drafted him to start from game ******* one as a center is beyond me.
How the hell you know he would or would not be better as Guard,which is his natural position is beyond me. As we have not exactly seen him play that. It was an arrogant stupid ******* pick. Yes HE is the one that sucked. They should have replaced him ages ago and not put him in this position. I mean,seriously.

 

[slashsteel]

3,2,1...thank God it's over

Unfortunately it isn't.

 

[diver]

First off, the current GM and coaches give me no indication they have a clue about getting qualify offensive linemen. They passed on a genuinely great prospect in Humphrey for a ******* TE. They believed Kendrick Green was a good 3rd round choice. They continue to believe that Chukwuka Okorafor is an NFL-caliber offensive tackle.

Second, the same people NEVER admit mistakes and will now insist that Green simply needs to "mature," that Moore is "developing," etc. So in 2022, defensive ends will continue to blow past Moore and Green will continue to be shoved into the backfield.

We'll see about the rookies. The two OL have shown some toughness hanging in there. That's gotta count for something, right? I think Friermuth is gonna be pretty good. I think to be good on offense you have to have a weapon at TE. They are rookies, for the love. I think we need to have some patience with them. Besides, what other choice do we have?

 

[Steelr4evr]

Unfortunately it isn't.

For today. 2 games left. Our superbowl is now beating the browns...haha. Chubb is getting a chubby thinking about running on these guys.

 

[Steeltime]

K Green will be ok IF he gets in the weight room and works on technique.

He is not going to be big enough or strong enough to be a legit interior lineman. He is too short and not nearly talented enough to be an OT. He is a 297 lb. center getting pushed around like a shopping cart. Lifting with NFL quality strength coaches will help, sure, but I guess Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith - two rookie starters on the best team in the AFC - must have had magic or something to come out of college ready to play in the NFL.

Unlike Steelers offensive line draftees.

 

[Drink IRON City]

YES. The coaching staff is just as terrible as Diontae’s fumbling and dropping easy passes.

My point being is the coaching is a LARGE contributing factor in the play of these professionals. Lackadazical & soft seems to be the norm............ comes from the top on down.



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[JMM]

Well. He was a Left Guard in College. Why they drafted him to start from game ******* one as a center is beyond me.

 

[Stewey]

Was hoping for a "shocker" game.

That happened in week one.

 

[Drink IRON City]

He is not going to be big enough or strong enough to be a legit interior lineman. He is too short and not nearly talented enough to be an OT. He is a 297 lb. center getting pushed around like a shopping cart. Lifting with NFL quality strength coaches will help, sure, but I guess Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith - two rookie starters on the best team in the AFC - must have had magic or something to come out of college ready to play in the NFL.

Unlike Steelers offensive line draftees.

That's the thing, our STEELERS staff didn't invest heavily enough in the OL. Humphry was there but as you can see a 3rd & 4th is what we got. Our 1st and 2nd don't mean **** without an OL in front of them. Najee is a stud RB but what can he do behind this OL............ nothing




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[SteelerFan448]

At some point you just need to take the loss and let the clock run out.

We'll see about the rookies. The two OL have shown some toughness hanging in there. That's gotta count for something, right? I think Friermuth is gonna be pretty good. I think to be good on offense you have to have a weapon at TE. They are rookies, for the love. I think we need to have some patience with them. Besides, what other choice do we have?

Nah, those are things you say about guys who aren't any good. Green just doesn't look like an NFL player. All of the time in the weight room isn't going to change that he's undersize and will continually get dominated by strong interior guys. Admit the mistake and move on at center, maybe try him at guard? Moore was thrust into the lineup early and was strictly a developmental player. He had some moments where it looks like he can be a player. However, if this line goes into next year with Moore, Dotson, Green, and some combination of Banner/Okorafor as starters, look for more of the same. I would not be against another complete makeover with 4-5 new starters.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Matt Canada sucks and need to be fired immediately.

A year to short, never should have been promoted from within. OUTSIDE help should be brought in, for the entire coaching staff.


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[Steeltime]

Well. He was a Left Guard in College. Why they drafted him to start from game ******* one as a center is beyond me.

Because they are geniuses who see magic talent that others don't.

How the hell you know he would or would not be better as Guard, which is his natural position is beyond me.

Steelers have had centers who can run and block on the 2nd level like guards. Pouncey is the prime example. But Pouncey was able to handle nose tackles as a rookie.

The idea that Green will simply become NFL strong by offseason lifting is frankly odd. Really, so he didn't lift in college? Or beginning February of this year? Or during training?

He is pushed around like a little girl. If you have any of the past five games recorded, watch just Green every play. It will make you sick. Players that are good-not-great can become very good or even great. Players that suck and lack functional strength don't become good. Can you give an example of somebody who was shoved around as a rookie - to an embarrassing extent - and become even mediocre?

 

[Troglodyte]

He was joking, einstein

Then he needs work on his delivery, mentioned it in a very matter-of-fact way.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Green sucks. Bust.

Webster-Dawson-Hartings-Pouncey-??? When you **** the bed on Steeler center lineage, you gotta go.

What about coaching lineage......................... ?



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[Drink IRON City]

A Rudy sighting.

Thought that was two nights ago.................


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[Steeltime]

Then he needs work on his delivery, mentioned it in a very matter-of-fact way.

It was 36-3 with 5:00 to go, and you thought his comment about "making it a game" was serious?

 

[diver]

At some point you just need to take the loss and let the clock run out.

Nah, those are things you say about guys who aren't any good. Green just doesn't look like an NFL player. All of the time in the weight room isn't going to change that he's undersize and will continually get dominated by strong interior guys. Admit the mistake and move on at center, maybe try him at guard? Moore was thrust into the lineup early and was strictly a developmental player. He had some moments where it looks like he can be a player. However, if this line goes into next year with Moore, Dotson, Green, and some combination of Banner/Okorafor as starters, look for more of the same. I would not be against another complete makeover with 4-5 new starters.

I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm just inclined to give rookies a little more slack. You gotta hope, anyway. They have so many needs, they can''t address them all in the draft. In a different world they would sign an OL or two in FA who can play, but that just isn't what they do. So I can see a line next year with Green, Dotson and Moore starting at least. The only way that changes is if they get rid of the coach, and we all know that ain't happening.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm just inclined to give rookies a little more slack. You gotta hope, anyway. They have so many needs, they can''t address them all in the draft. In a different world they would sign an OL or two in FA who can play, but that just isn't what they do. So I can see a line next year with Green, Dotson and Moore starting at least. The only way that changes is if they get rid of the coach, and we all know that ain't happening.

I'll give them slack too, but they gotta show me something.

I've seen signs from most of the rookie class that they can at the very least step in for spot duty moving into the future. I've yet to see anything from Green that says "starter."

 

[Ron Burgundy]

What about coaching lineage......................... ?

Perfectly intact. Both Noll and Cowher hit their expiration dates right around 15 years and so has Tomlin.

 

[Steelmann]

Because they are geniuses who see magic talent that others don't.



Steelers have had centers who can run and block on the 2nd level like guards. Pouncey is the prime example. But Pouncey was able to handle nose tackles as a rookie.

The idea that Green will simply become NFL strong by offseason lifting is frankly odd. Really, so he didn't lift in college? Or beginning February of this year? Or during training?

He is pushed around like a little girl. If you have any of the past five games recorded, watch just Green every play. It will make you sick. Players that are good-not-great can become very good or even great. Players that suck and lack functional strength don't become good. Can you give an example of somebody who was shoved around as a rookie - to an embarrassing extent - and become even mediocre?

Never once did I mention anything about offseason lifting. Maybe others did.

My post was merely giving him the benefit of the doubt. They stuck him in as center with no backup plan,he should have sat for a year learning the position. Not thrown in instantly. Management blame.

I have never played guard or center. Not sure if you have. You seem to know so much,they seem to be interchangeable to you.
Perhaps he is pushed around “ like a little girl” because he has never even remotely played center with this type of competition. Perhaps hupping the ball,different blocking schemes and all sorts of different responsibilities that he has never done before is just not his cup of tea. Totally different type of timing I would think. Maybe his cup of tea is playing guard. His natural position. We won’t know until we see him there.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Was hoping for a "shocker" game.

That happened in week one.

I actually think this Steeler team 100 percent healthy Watt with JuJu, Alualu and Tuitt is a pretty competitive NFL team.

 

[MB47]

Never a losing season. Greatest coach ever. Finds a way to go .500 in a 17 game season. Genius, just genius.

Post of the day

 

[FordFairLane]

Perfectly intact. Both Noll and Cowher hit their expiration dates right around 15 years and so has Tomlin.

Yep. I think it is time to move on. Tomlin has a couple years left on his contract so let that be his severance package.