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Steelers select Dri Archer in Round 3

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He didn't pan out, sucks, I was hoping he could put it together. I don't think he ended up being too small though, but it sure seems like he was a LOT slower on an NFL field than he was in college. It happens, when he cut inside last week when the outside of the field was wide open, I thought that might spell the end for him, but I honestly didn't think the team would give up on him till next year. Oh well, welcome to the team Jacoby!

Joe
 
Below is the only list of players I could get from anyone that we SHOULD have taken AT THE TIME instead of Archer, might be a fun time to look and see how many are doing something now.

Bruce Ellington
Rashaad Reynolds
Antonio Richardson
Carl Bradford
Ryan Carrethers
Justin Ellis
Daquan Jones
Jared Abbrederis
Cameron Fleming
Nevin Lawson

And remember kids, this is a group of 10, when our guys are picking, they would need to select ONE and hope he does better. Hindsight, it's always soooooo clear.

Joe
 
^^ And props to the poster who put that list up, it's good to see someone with the balls to call it at the time, instead of waiting 3 years to point out the guy they would have taken. This list is from earlier in the thread, and he had the stones to at least put a list out there.

Joe
 
IIRC the Steelers were interested in a couple CBs and Bryant if they didnt go with Archer... Cockrell was on that list, and was taken between Archer and Bryant... Thanks to the Bills axing him, I dont think a different pick would have drastically changed this roster other than had they gone Cockrell, they probably go in a different direction with richardson at 5, but then again the value at the 5th and sixth rounds was high end DLine prospects, and we got McCuellers there anyhow... It was a great draft and in a few years when some of these other guys finish developing I think it will really stand out..

Best case in hindsight would have been that the Steelers took DeAnthony Thomas instead of Archer, it was still not a need pick at the time, but he is a far better NFL player than Archer at the same position he was brought in to fill.

for the record 9and probably in this thread) i wanted Bryant and we got him anyhow
 
The Archer experiment is now officially over.

I hope the Steelers learned a lesson as small players who played weak competition that are best used as a kickoff return man should never be used as 3rd round picks! You can get a player like very late in the draft or as a rookie free agent.

Archer was a zero on defensive special teams, and not even good enough to hit the field with Bell's injury.

The fact that he went with depth at RB being an issue, and the Steelers keeping two fullbacks on the roster says it all.
 
Any player drafted after Archer that hasn't been cut could be said to be a better draft pick than him. Just because a draft pick isn't starting or you don't have a clue who he is doesn't mean he isn't helping a team. Nobody on here knows enough about the other 31 teams to make that type of comment.

Archer didn't have a position and even at his best was just a KR. At least drafting another position gives you a better opportunity to find someone to contribute. Archer was never going to play a real NFL position outside of KR. That's why he was a horrible draft pick. And while another player might not have worked out it doesn't mean it was a good idea to draft Archer. It's like hunting for gold. Yes, you may find some gold in weird places but looking for it in central park isn't as smart as looking for it in places in Alaska. It's about percentages.
 
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Any player drafted after Archer that hasn't been cut could be said to be a better draft pick than him. Just because a draft pick isn't starting or you don't have a clue who he is doesn't mean he isn't helping a team. Nobody on here knows enough about the other 31 teams to make that type of comment.

Archer didn't have a position and even at his best was just a KR. At least drafting another position gives you a better opportunity to find someone to contribute. Archer was never going to play a real NFL position outside of KR. That's why he was a horrible draft pick. And while another player might not have worked out it doesn't mean it was a good idea to draft Archer. It's like hunting for gold. Yes, you may find some gold in weird places but looking for it in central park isn't as smart as looking for it in places in Alaska. It's about percentages.
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Id argue that Cockrell is a better player and he has been cut.... I never liked the pick cause I dont believe that since the rule change a KR is a useful position unless the guy has clear TD potential.
 
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Id argue that Cockrell is a better player and he has been cut.... I never liked the pick cause I dont believe that since the rule change a KR is a useful position unless the guy has clear TD potential.
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He maybe a better player. I don't know. But those still with teams could be seen as better players. Like I said, nobody on here knows all these players. And you're 100% right about KRs. They aren't really important any more. We're half way through the season and Archer has 14 KR. Many of those from deep in the endzone that shouldn't have been returned. There is no reason to draft a KR in today's NFL. They are dinosaurs.
 
I can't believe this thread still lives. I know I have a few posts in here. I hated that pick.
 
Steeler Dri is dead... this thread ought to be too



Thought the ghost of Dri may hang out there a while:

Aaron Wilson ‏@AaronWilson_NFL 19m19 minutes ago
Unclaimed off waivers from Steelers: Dri Archer
 
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So what is worse?

Us claiming an old beat down slow returner off the waiver wire.

or

No one claiming Dri off the waiver wire?



Hell. Coach could make this into a new thread. :)
 
Dri not being claimed is a testament as to some here were correct in their evaluation of his play. Coming into the NFL his only true assest was his speed. Some say he "bulked" up some from last year. In doing that, I feel he l;ost some speed. The offset difference, gain of muscle / loss of speed, was his killer. NO or less speed kills. Funny on the change around of driving sloagan. In any event, thank you mr. archer (small case) for all your STEELERS contributions, including this thread.




Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
Dri not being claimed is a testament as to some here were correct in their evaluation of his play. Coming into the NFL his only true assest was his speed. Some say he "bulked" up some from last year. In doing that, I feel he l;ost some speed. The offset difference, gain of muscle / loss of speed, was his killer. NO or less speed kills. Funny on the change around of driving sloagan. In any event, thank you mr. archer (small case) for all your STEELERS contributions, including this thread.




Salute the nation
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and he was

short

on instincts and vision

among his other short attributes
 
Here is my contribution to the push for 200 pages. Dri we hardly knew ye. Carry on folks.
 
Coach said:
I hope the Steelers learned a lesson as small players who played weak competition that are best used as a kickoff return man should never be used as 3rd round picks!
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Oh, Please!

I'm sure you and others would have flipped the **** out had the Steelers drafted Antonio Brown in the 3rd round (read you're description above) but you would've eventually looked like the idiots you are for doing so.

Archer was drafted in the 3rd round, he wasn't the 3rd overall pick. You're talking about 100 guesses into something that is anything but a perfect science and has a huge failure rate. Nobody learns lessons when all they are really doing is guessing.

Did the '74 Steelers learn a lesson from drafting Jimmy Allen?
 
Vader said:
Any player drafted after Archer that hasn't been cut could be said to be a better draft pick than him. Just because a draft pick isn't starting or you don't have a clue who he is doesn't mean he isn't helping a team. Nobody on here knows enough about the other 31 teams to make that type of comment.

Archer didn't have a position and even at his best was just a KR. At least drafting another position gives you a better opportunity to find someone to contribute. Archer was never going to play a real NFL position outside of KR. That's why he was a horrible draft pick. And while another player might not have worked out it doesn't mean it was a good idea to draft Archer. It's like hunting for gold. Yes, you may find some gold in weird places but looking for it in central park isn't as smart as looking for it in places in Alaska. It's about percentages.
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Yes, like Ross Cockrell that scrub!
 
Wonder if during all these posts anyone ever mentioned the overall success that Tombert has had with 3rd round choices?
 
obxsteeler said:
Wonder if during all these posts anyone ever mentioned the overall success that Tombert has had with 3rd round choices?
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Why? If 3rd rounders are like throwing a dart at a board and it's just luck of the draw then success is irrelevant right? They just got lucky right?
 
Not sure we got the better end of the Archer-for-Jones swap. Jones is what 31, 32 years old? Archer wasn't doing much, but still, you gotta think the Steelers were grasping at straws with Jones. Why would the Chargers cut the guy mid-season, if he had any gas left? Anyway, it's all water under the bridge at this point....
 
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Jones sucks ... like worse than Archer sucks ... I think they finally told him to quit bringing the ball out. They definitely replaced him with AB on punt returns. (not that that worked out to swell). So, what we got in this transaction is a taller, slower returner who kept bringing the ball out of the EZ and not making it to the 20; and who can't return punts.

Seems like a fair exchange to me. Wish they would've found someone better than Dri AND Jones when they made the decision to get rid of Archer.
 
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