Steelers select Dri Archer in Round 3

[Idioteque]

you're the one saying they don't exist, not me and not your God. You.

apparently Peyton Manning doesn't exist.
neither did Hershel Walker.
nor Bo Jackson.
nor LaDainian Tomlinson.
nor Calvin Johnson.
nor ...

but when you're not looking for absolute, lock-down studs at positions, it doesn't matter.

Are you really struggling THIS hard with the word "guaranteed"?

 

[Superman]

Are you really struggling THIS hard with the word "guaranteed"?

are you really struggling to admit that those that I named were "guaranteed"?
surely you can't be this dense. then again...yes, YOU can.

right now...

Todd Gurley. guaranteed stud. even though he does not exist.

 

[Idioteque]

are you really struggling to admit that those that I named were "guaranteed"?
surely you can't be this dense. then again...yes, YOU can.

right now...

Todd Gurley. guaranteed stud. even though he does not exist.

So he's 100%? Not 65%.. not 99%.. 100%?

See, you were so desperate to comment that you didn't grasp the point. T-man and I were discussing the fact that when you draft a guy you don't KNOW with hindsight whether he'll be great. You can be extremely confident, but not 100% because there's no goddamn such thing as clairvoyance.

 

[Superman]

you're such an argumentative little ******* eunuch troll that you didn't even read what else I posted.
i can only imagine you saw my name as "last post by", quickly rushed in to read it and then scrambled to type some MORE utter bullshit that you missed the last half of my post.

yes, Todd Gurley. 100% guaranteed.

 

[Idioteque]

I read all of your posts. You have failed to convince me you see the future.

Jizz jizz spreadsheet

 

[Superman]

I'm not saying I can predict the future. I'm saying I'm 100% confident that Todd Gurley absolutely WILL BE a complete and total stud in the NFL.

and just like I predicted -- the jizz jizz spreadsheet -- comment comes out since you're 100% incapable of maintaining a conversation without being a complete and total dick. if you so hate my postings, then put me on ignore and stop being a fuckhead.

 

[Idioteque]

Even if he gets arrested for rape? Even if he's got knee problems from HS? Even if he's just not motivated or good in the pass game? There is no 100%. It is an impossibility.

Wow. You're offended by my tone AFTER calling me a eunuch troll fuckbag, or whatever it was you heard on Family Guy. Sounds like Supe Syndrome: dish out relentless ****, but cry like a ***** when it's turned back on you.

 

[Superman]

yeah, that's 100% right.

In terms of talent - Gurley is a 100% guarantee to be a stud in the NFL. Unless a goddamn plane crashes on his ******* head.
there, that better? and weren't you the one who was just whining about people having to cover all their bases when making a statement?

btw - keep up the argumentative ******** spiel. it works so well for you.

 

[Idioteque]

You're just not following the discussion between myself and t-man. You saw my 100% remark and just decided to argue with it, context be damned.

"You argumentative fuckhead eunuch troll jizz jizz jizz!! Why are you so meeean?!?!"

 

[Superman]

You're just not following the discussion between myself and t-man. You saw my 100% remark and just decided to argue with it, context be damned.

"You argumentative fuckhead eunuch troll jizz jizz jizz!! Why are you so meeean?!?!"

yeah, that's precisely what I said.

just as you stated:

The goal is not to draft a slam dunk, locked down, guaranteed stud.

So, in other words, the time spent by scouts to measure and gauge players is just for ***** and giggles and not to see if they can draft/find "a slam dunk, locked down, guaranteed stud" at positions to best enable winning for their respective franchises. So these scouts are really just flying all over the ******* country for nothing more than to rack up frequent flyer miles, sleep in motel beds, dine on the company dime and watch pimply kids run around on a field since they have literally nothing else to do. So they do all this, compile these results, compare and contrast them to potential candidates, weed out those they deem inferior for whatever reason, make educated assessments, assign a draft grade, print the results, delete the containing file and run the results through a shredder, tape the shredded documents to a wall, then **** in their hands and fling it against the wall and make their pick based on how well the **** adheres to the wall and paper.

you know, since they are not attempting to draft "a slam dunk, locked down, guaranteed stud"

 

[Idioteque]

Dude. Read my ******* posts. I've already discussed all of this.

The goal is to find a guy THEY PROJECT TO BE A STUD. 100% guarantees don't exist because there are millions of factors at play. I can't believe I have to explain this to you. YOU just guaranteed that Gurley will never fall into legal trouble or just not make the NFL jump in general. Do you not see how stupid that is?

The only reason I said that was to illustrate that nobody knows the future. It was part of my goddamn larger point. Had you read more than just my post, you'd have a frame of reference and realize that.

 

[t-man]

You're just not following the discussion between myself and t-man. You saw my 100% remark and just decided to argue with it, context be damned.

"You argumentative fuckhead eunuch troll jizz jizz jizz!! Why are you so meeean?!?!"

Guys, I gotta side with Idiot here, there really isn't a 100% absoloute can't miss draft proposition. That's kind of what I'm getting at, just like there, for the most part, aren't any never ever ever gonna make it undrafted guys either. There are ALWAYS surprises, and sometimes you get a late round receiver named Antonio Brown, and sometimes you get an early round guy named Limas Sweed. ****, man, EVERYONE here LOVED the Sweed pick. Colbert hit a homerun on that one, no doubt. He was can't miss. How'd that work out?

That's why we wait and see, that's why I challenge people to give me a ******* name when they are so damn sure a guy is gonna suck, and someone else might have been better, because ****, they might be right, and it would be interesting to see it.

It's not, however, interesting to have them name the dude 3 years down the road, because, again, that's hindsight, and we all know if we could go back and draft the guys we know are kicking *** now, we'd have one hell of a team.

Joe

 

[Drink IRON City]

KARMA to Joe, but I must spread around before Joe can get




Salute the nation

 

[Stryker]

I wanted Bryant, or Brashaud Breeland with the Archer pick. We got Bryant, and Breeland starts at cb for the skins. That would have made our draft a lot better.

Bullshit. No one mentioned Breeland before this season started. Now that he's played, of course you liked him and we should have taken him. Hindsight 101. I don't recall his name mentioned once during draft day assessments or preseason.

Also, I hate the argument for taking Bryant in the 3rd round. You are wrong. The rest of the league determined Bryant was not a 3rd round talent by passing on him. That is because he was drafted as a 4th round talent. You can't argue you'd rather have someone we still got a ROUND LATER, because he wasn't rated high enough to be drafted in the 3rd round.

 

[Idioteque]

Wait.. You're really telling a guy what he was thinking before the draft?

****** A. Some of you have derailed over DRI ******* Archer.

 

[Ye Black Knight]

Bullshit. No one mentioned Breeland before this season started. Now that he's played, of course you liked him and we should have taken him. Hindsight 101. I don't recall his name mentioned once during draft day assessments or preseason.

Also, I hate the argument for taking Bryant in the 3rd round. You are wrong. The rest of the league determined Bryant was not a 3rd round talent by passing on him. That is because he was drafted as a 4th round talent. You can't argue you'd rather have someone we still got a ROUND LATER, because he wasn't rated high enough to be drafted in the 3rd round.

Egads! A soothsayer! Oh wise one, please spare us peasants from your obviously terrible powers! Verily, you must be a god amongst men to read others minds! Hark! I say to you all do not anger this pompous, NO NO I mean magnificent being!

*grovel*


YE BLACK KNIGHT HATH SPOKEN!

 

[t-man]

Bullshit. No one mentioned Breeland before this season started. Now that he's played, of course you liked him and we should have taken him. Hindsight 101. I don't recall his name mentioned once during draft day assessments or preseason.

Also, I hate the argument for taking Bryant in the 3rd round. You are wrong. The rest of the league determined Bryant was not a 3rd round talent by passing on him. That is because he was drafted as a 4th round talent. You can't argue you'd rather have someone we still got a ROUND LATER, because he wasn't rated high enough to be drafted in the 3rd round.

And this is where the problems begin. Two years from now, if our little guy Dri doesn't work out, there will be some dude who is lighting it up who was picked AFTER him, and it will be amazing, truly amazing the number of people who will have wanted this phenom in that draft. I'm not exactly saying they're all full of ****, but, it is sometimes odd that with all the mocks, and the mocks of mocks of mocks, we often don't see these names at all, not even ONCE, then POOF, 20 people are in a thread saying how they would have taken this guy or that one instead of who we got.

Joe

 

[ark steel]

Bullshit. No one mentioned Breeland before this season started. Now that he's played, of course you liked him and we should have taken him. Hindsight 101. I don't recall his name mentioned once during draft day assessments or preseason.

Also, I hate the argument for taking Bryant in the 3rd round. You are wrong. The rest of the league determined Bryant was not a 3rd round talent by passing on him. That is because he was drafted as a 4th round talent. You can't argue you'd rather have someone we still got a ROUND LATER, because he wasn't rated high enough to be drafted in the 3rd round.

Looking back, it looks like Zack said Breeland specifically. I don't know if that means anything since we don't really know if Breeland is actually good, yet. We should probably wait on him like we should on Archer. I don't hate the archer pick but I would not have taken a RB in any round this year. By default in that spot, I would have taken any of the CB's drafted a few spots later (and have said so). Probably one of them that sucks, though.

I don't think Archer is a bad pick, like some do, nor do I get hung up on "it was a third rounder". It was a very late third round pick, practically a fourth. It ain't like it was the top half of the third round. Archer was rated a 3 or 4 round pick by many people.

Archer seems like a good dude and has some skills. Probably relieved of KO duties for making rookie mistakes of bringing returns out of the endzone when he shouldn't rather than inability. I'm a pretty optimistic dude, though.

 

[Wingman]

Bullshit. No one mentioned Breeland before this season started. Now that he's played, of course you liked him and we should have taken him. Hindsight 101. I don't recall his name mentioned once during draft day assessments or preseason.

Also, I hate the argument for taking Bryant in the 3rd round. You are wrong. The rest of the league determined Bryant was not a 3rd round talent by passing on him. That is because he was drafted as a 4th round talent. You can't argue you'd rather have someone we still got a ROUND LATER, because he wasn't rated high enough to be drafted in the 3rd round.

Have to side with the guys that invoke the hindsight call on here. I do not think there was much posted right after the Archer pick about who we would have rather had. I know at least one person put up a list of 10 before any of them played at the pro level. In my case the guys I wanted were already gone and I had nothing to offer as an alternative, and hoped the kid would work out.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Egads! A soothsayer! Oh wise one, please spare us peasants from your obviously terrible powers! Verily, you must be a god amongst men to read others minds! Hark! I say to you all do not anger this pompous, NO NO I mean magnificent being!

*grovel*


YE BLACK KNIGHT HATH SPOKEN!

**** off !!!!! Your shtick has gotten old and you've only got 3 posts. hang out by the fire, catch, then go piss in the wind !!!!!



Salute the nation

 

[Idioteque]

Have to side with the guys that invoke the hindsight call on here. I do not think there was much posted right after the Archer pick about who we would have rather had.

Surely you're kidding. Numerous posters discussed which players and positions they wish we had addressed. There were too many "mock the draft" posts to even count.

I know at least one person put up a list of 10 before any of them played at the pro level.

The 10 prospects I thought were the best left on the board, yes. I was one of many.

 

[Idioteque]

Bullshit. No one mentioned Breeland before this season started. Now that he's played, of course you liked him and we should have taken him. Hindsight 101. I don't recall his name mentioned once during draft day assessments or preseason.

Also, I hate the argument for taking Bryant in the 3rd round. You are wrong. The rest of the league determined Bryant was not a 3rd round talent by passing on him. That is because he was drafted as a 4th round talent. You can't argue you'd rather have someone we still got a ROUND LATER, because he wasn't rated high enough to be drafted in the 3rd round.

20-30 seconds of searching found that ZACKB did indeed want Breeland on draft day.

Goddamn, that left a nasty red handprint of truth across your face.

 

[ZACKB]

Actually I'm pretty big on the draft and when our pick came up, and we needed a corner, I read up on Breeland. I wanted him or Bryant. I'm happy we at least got Bryant.

Bullshit. No one mentioned Breeland before this season started. Now that he's played, of course you liked him and we should have taken him. Hindsight 101. I don't recall his name mentioned once during draft day assessments or preseason.

Also, I hate the argument for taking Bryant in the 3rd round. You are wrong. The rest of the league determined Bryant was not a 3rd round talent by passing on him. That is because he was drafted as a 4th round talent. You can't argue you'd rather have someone we still got a ROUND LATER, because he wasn't rated high enough to be drafted in the 3rd round.

 

[ark steel]

20-30 seconds of searching found that ZACKB did indeed want Breeland on draft day.

Goddamn, that left a nasty red handprint of truth across your face.

One dude doesn't really make it much of a case. In general, Cope is right.

If you seriously think there aren't a lot of hindsight ******** (pun!!) that come in later with these "I wanted this guy" bullshit, you are willfully blind. Some of them are here. Maybe they thought it, but they never said a word, so I tend to be negative about their "brilliance".

The problem with my list, is that it is pretty broad. I listed at least 5 (although not by name, just position, I think, and I was too bored to search through the thread for it).

If Breeland turns out great and my other 4 suck ***, I didn't do much prognosticating.

 

[ZACKB]

I had liked Breeland, Desir, and Bryant for that spot. We really needed a corner and wr. Breeland is 6ft and has solid size. Most mocks had him a 2-3rd rounder. He seemed like a solid pick for me, at the time. I just liked him better than Desir, although Bryant was my top choice at that time, with Breeland second. I always flet like Archer was a Rainey clone and that he was just too small to be effective.

I'm no expeet, but I felt that wr and cb were much more neede than a fast smurf, expecialy with the small amoutn of kickoff that are returned.

One dude doesn't really make it much of a case. In general, Cope is right.

If you seriously think there aren't a lot of hindsight ******** (pun!!) that come in later with these "I wanted this guy" bullshit, you are willfully blind. Some of them are here. Maybe they thought it, but they never said a word, so I tend to be negative about their "brilliance".

The problem with my list, is that it is pretty broad. I listed at least 5 (although not by name, just position, I think, and I was too bored to search through the thread for it).

If Breeland turns out great and my other 4 suck ***, I didn't do much prognosticating.