Stephen Paddock Mystery Solved: Just Another Right Wing Gun/Conspiracy Nut

[Elfiero]

Good lord...can you NOT READ? We don't even know if these comments were actually made by him! We don't know if the witnesses are credible. Did you know there are several witnesses who claimed to have seen him with his girlfriend that weekend, even though it's been determined that she was in the Philippines? And that another witness claimed she picked up Paddock and a woman at the airport, even though he didn't fly to Las Vegas, he drove?

This is the woman's statement you mentioned, who claimed she saw him talking to someone at Denny's.

"I thought one man looked like the actor Clancey Brown. This morning I realize it was Steven (sic) Paddock," she wrote. "They were talking about Waco and 'Ruby Ridge.' I thought they were talking about a woman. However, I have since google 'Ruby Ridge.'"

Well gee, that sure sounds reliable! If you went into a court of law with this you'd be laughed right out.

You say "there are no conflicting statements", do you know that for a fact? Have you read the whole report? Or are you just taking Think Progress' word for that?

Like I said, anything is possible. Of course there are violent people motivated by right wing ideology, just like any ideology. No one is disputing that.

Your approaching this like it's some kind of definitive proof of anything is just making you look even stupider than usual. Police have not been able to determine a motive because there's no reliable evidence of a motive.

Of course the police is going to say they don't know the motive, they have to verify it. Do you know why?

Do I have to spell it out for you? HE'S WHITE YOU MORON.

If he had survived they would have taken him to Burger King before jail.......ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME?

White right wingers are NEVER TERRORISTS! They are always given the benefit of the doubt and the media portrays them in a sympathetic fashion.

Are you people really this dense, or is it just an act of convenience?

 

[oneforthebus]

Of course the police is going to say they don't know the motive, they have to verify it. Do you know why?

Do I have to spell it out for you? HE'S WHITE YOU MORON.

If he had survived they would have taken him to Burger King before jail.......ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME?

White right wingers are NEVER TERRORISTS! They are always given the benefit of the doubt and the media portrays them in a sympathetic fashion.

Are you people really this dense, or is it just an act of convenience?

LMAO. I give up. Who the **** is SYMPATHETIC to this guy? He killed 58 innocent people for God's sake. I hope you're wrong about heaven and hell and he is writhing in excruciating pain for all eternity. The police? You think they are interested in PROTECTING this guy, or preserving his reputation? Because he's white?

You really need help Elfie. Seriously. Your world view is even more warped and twisted than the years of reading your crap have led me to believe.

 

[Stewey]

White right wingers are NEVER TERRORISTS! They are always given the benefit of the doubt and the media portrays them in a sympathetic fashion.

Are you really this delusional or is it just a matter of convenience?

Being sprayed with bullets certainly would be terrifying, but the shooter by definition may not necessarily be a terrorist.

Terrorist: "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against individuals or property in an attempt to coerce or intimidate governments or societies to achieve political, religious or ideological objectives".

Gee Elfie, the last white guy I recall that fits the "terrorist" label was one of you people, a white left winger....you know him very well, the Bernie Sanders supporter that tried to kill Republicans at a baseball game.

 

[Booted]

Of course the police is going to say they don't know the motive, they have to verify it. Do you know why?

Do I have to spell it out for you? HE'S WHITE YOU MORON.

If he had survived they would have taken him to Burger King before jail.......ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME?

White right wingers are NEVER TERRORISTS! They are always given the benefit of the doubt and the media portrays them in a sympathetic fashion.

Are you people really this dense, or is it just an act of convenience?

Is the FBI trying to kill your wife too?

 

[CoolieMan]

Of course the police is going to say they don't know the motive, they have to verify it. Do you know why?

Do I have to spell it out for you? HE'S WHITE YOU MORON.

If he had survived they would have taken him to Burger King before jail.......ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME?

White right wingers are NEVER TERRORISTS! They are always given the benefit of the doubt and the media portrays them in a sympathetic fashion.

Are you people really this dense, or is it just an act of convenience?

this may be the stupidest ******* thing you have ever posted...**** stirring twatwaffle

 

[Elfiero]

Are you really this delusional or is it just a matter of convenience?

Being sprayed with bullets certainly would be terrifying, but the shooter by definition may not necessarily be a terrorist.

Terrorist: "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against individuals or property in an attempt to coerce or intimidate governments or societies to achieve political, religious or ideological objectives".

Gee Elfie, the last white guy I recall that fits the "terrorist" label was one of you people, a white left winger....you know him very well, the Bernie Sanders supporter that tried to kill Republicans at a baseball game.

There is no fixed definition for terrorism you moron.

It doesn't neccessarily include an attempt at coercion of a state.

Was Bin Laden a terrorist? Of course he was!

What was he trying to coerce or intimadate the U.S. into?

 

[Elfiero]

this may be the stupidest ******* thing you have ever posted...**** stirring twatwaffle

You're the king of stupid.

The Double Standard In How The Media Is Portraying The Las Vegas Shooter

Headlines described the man behind the biggest mass shooting in modern U.S. history as a country music fan.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59d3da15e4b04b9f92058316/amp









BLACK VOICES
10/03/2017 07:30 pm ET Updated Oct 04, 2017
The Double Standard In How The Media Is Portraying The Las Vegas Shooter
Headlines described the man behind the biggest mass shooting in modern U.S. history as a country music fan.
headshot
By Sarah Ruiz-Grossman

As the nation reels from the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, some people have noticed a double standard in how the media has portrayed 64-year-old Stephen Paddock versus other mass shooters.

Paddock shot into a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas on Sunday, killing at least 59 people and injuring more than 500 before authorities found him dead in his hotel room with a cache of weapons.

As the news broke, major outlets across the country wrote headlines that humanized Paddock, pointing out that he was a country music fan, for example. They also portrayed his violent act as an anomaly, labeling him a “lone wolf” who “doesn’t fit [the] mass shooter profile” rather than a part of a systemic problem of violence by white men in this country.

Past mass shooters who were nonwhite or Muslim have been depicted quite differently ― and so have people of color who were victims of gun violence.


“There’s a clear difference in the way this kind of incident is treated and the way it would be treated if it were actually associated with Islam or Muslims,” Ibrahim Hooper, spokesperson at the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told HuffPost. “It would be instantly called an act of domestic or even international terrorism; it wouldn’t be individualized, but collectivized to the entire Muslim community or faith of Islam.”

Try to actually learn something instead of just repeating Fox News/ Sean Hannity garbage.

 

[CoolieMan]

inaccurate....I am the King of ********....you are a worthless **** stirring ********

 

[Elfiero]

Is the FBI trying to kill your wife too?

The Reich wing stupid in this place is just...oh so special....so special.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I keep tuning in waiting for Tin Foil Hat Wearing Elftard to produce another witness. I heard the next one goes like this:

ThinkProgress and HuffingtonPost report that a pink vagina-hat wearing harpie was in a porta-potty at LaLaPalooza when she overheard a man in the adjoining porta-potty, likely on his cell phone. What she overheard was this man discussing pipe bombs and his disdain for Country Music singers. He even mentioned something about Oklahoma City and Hero. Now she thinks he must be talking about Timothy McVeigh, not Russell Westbrook. Upon exiting the Porta-Potty she noticed this man walking away had graying hair and was wearing a Che Guarva T-Shirt. Upon being interviewed she said "Oh yeah man, like...ummm....seriously, that dude's voice was without a doubt that Paddock guy, I'm sure of it." She offered a written statement to authorities.

 

[Elfiero]

I keep tuning in waiting for Tin Foil Hat Wearing Elftard to produce another witness. I heard the next one goes like this:

ThinkProgress and HuffingtonPost report that a pink vagina-hat wearing harpie was in a porta-potty at LaLaPalooza when she overheard a man in the adjoining porta-potty, likely on his cell phone. What she overheard was this man discussing pipe bombs and his disdain for Country Music singers. He even mentioned something about Oklahoma City and Hero. Now she thinks he must be talking about Timothy McVeigh, not Russell Westbrook. Upon exiting the Porta-Potty she noticed this man walking away had graying hair and was wearing a Che Guarva T-Shirt. Upon being interviewed she said "Oh yeah man, like...ummm....seriously, that dude's voice was without a doubt that Paddock guy, I'm sure of it." She offered a written statement to authorities.

Meanwhile Trump wants to investigate the FBI probing his campaign...

Who remembers Kellyanne Conway and her "Obama spying microwave?"

Tiny Tim once again exemplifies the special kind of stupid/conspiracy theorist it takes to be a member of the S.N. alt-right by his and others support of this joke of an administration........way to go champ.....way to go.

 

[DBS1970]

The Reich wing stupid in this place is just...oh so special....so special.

Citizens stopping federal officials from acting illegally outside the law. Precisely why we have the 2nd Amendment.

 

[oneforthebus]

You're the king of stupid.

The Double Standard In How The Media Is Portraying The Las Vegas Shooter

Headlines described the man behind the biggest mass shooting in modern U.S. history as a country music fan.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59d3da15e4b04b9f92058316/amp









BLACK VOICES
10/03/2017 07:30 pm ET Updated Oct 04, 2017
The Double Standard In How The Media Is Portraying The Las Vegas Shooter
Headlines described the man behind the biggest mass shooting in modern U.S. history as a country music fan.
headshot
By Sarah Ruiz-Grossman

As the nation reels from the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, some people have noticed a double standard in how the media has portrayed 64-year-old Stephen Paddock versus other mass shooters.

Paddock shot into a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas on Sunday, killing at least 59 people and injuring more than 500 before authorities found him dead in his hotel room with a cache of weapons.

As the news broke, major outlets across the country wrote headlines that humanized Paddock, pointing out that he was a country music fan, for example. They also portrayed his violent act as an anomaly, labeling him a “lone wolf” who “doesn’t fit [the] mass shooter profile” rather than a part of a systemic problem of violence by white men in this country.

Past mass shooters who were nonwhite or Muslim have been depicted quite differently ― and so have people of color who were victims of gun violence.


“There’s a clear difference in the way this kind of incident is treated and the way it would be treated if it were actually associated with Islam or Muslims,” Ibrahim Hooper, spokesperson at the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told HuffPost. “It would be instantly called an act of domestic or even international terrorism; it wouldn’t be individualized, but collectivized to the entire Muslim community or faith of Islam.”

Try to actually learn something instead of just repeating Fox News/ Sean Hannity garbage.

What in the world is the ******* point of this?

Let me make this simple for you Elfie. Most radical Islamic terrorists do not attempt to hide their motives. It's not because "oh he's brown he must be a terrorist", it's because they broadcast their motives loud and clear. IF Stephen Paddock was a right wing pro-gun nut, one it makes no sense because his actions were more likely to inspire more gun control than to inspire less gun control.

Two, if he's a terrorist sending a right wing message WHY DIDN'T HE TELL ANYONE THAT? Hard to send a message if you don't inform a soul of what your motives are, dontcha think?

Why on earth is this even an issue to you? Does it really matter to you so much that some lunatic kills people over right wing ideology instead of some lunatic killing people over radical Islamism? Do you feel bad for the radical Islamists who slaughter people that they are discriminated against in this way? Would you feel better if each time a radical Islamist killed people we all said "well maybe he's just a nutjob and not a REAL radical Islamist". Are you trying to convince people that radical Islamist terrorism doesn't exist? What exactly is your goal? I'm curious.

 

[Elfiero]

Citizens stopping federal officials from acting illegally outside the law. Precisely why we have the 2nd Amendment.

They werent acting outside the law. I showed that on this very board at the time. Bundy was/is a criminal.

The. president at the time lacked the couraage to do the right thing. A drone, a few hellfire missles and I'm home in time for lunch.

A terrorist is a terrorist.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Meanwhile Trump wants to investigate the FBI probing his campaign...

Who remembers Kellyanne Conway and her "Obama spying microwave?"

Tiny Tim once again exemplifies the special kind of stupid/conspiracy theorist it takes to be a member of the S.N. alt-right by his and others support of this joke of an administration........way to go champ.....way to go.

Tard, this thread is about you wearing the tinfoil hat. Offering "evidence" that isn't evidence. Spinning, gyrating, genuflecting in any attempt possible to pin this shooting on a Conservative because you live in the "them" v "us" world. And somehow, in only a bizarre way you understand, to somehow say "See because of Paddock Radical Muslims are good!"

When you have evidence, bring it. Then we will destroy the man further for whatever it was he stood for, or didn't stand for. Until then, stop with this horseshit, which is exactly what this thread is.

Meanwhile, the whole Obama spying issue we told you was true...was true. Obama first said "Nope, we didn't." Now Obama is explaining "why" they did what they did. Your beloved NY Times said "we were investigating not spying."

Funny that

You don't contribute any semblance of reality to this site, but it is worth tuning in to be entertained, like watching those sign flipping fools.

 

[DBS1970]

They werent acting outside the law. I showed that on this very board at the time. Bundy was/is a criminal.

The. president at the time lacked the couraage to do the right thing. A drone, a few hellfire missles and I'm home in time for lunch.

A terrorist is a terrorist.

Is that why the case was dismissed and the Federal Judge reamed out the prosecutor in open court?

This is precisely why leftists hate the 2nd Amendment. An armed population won't willingly get on train cars to "re-education centers". There is no doubt in my mind that you would like to line every person who doesn't share your socialist ideology and shoot them Che Guevara style Elfie.

 

[Elfiero]

Is that why the case was dismissed and the Federal Judge reamed out the prosecutor in open court?

This is precisely why leftists hate the 2nd Amendment. An armed population won't willingly get on train cars to "re-education centers". There is no doubt in my mind that you would like to line every person who doesn't share your socialist ideology and shoot them Che Guevara style Elfie.

Article 4 Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution:

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.


The case was declared a mistrial because of incomptence.

Bundy is a criminal regardless of what happened or didn't happen in that courtroom. He is a thief, a racist, and just a general scumbag.

In other words: a typical Trump supporter.

If those had been armed Muslims or African Americans out there the drone strike I talked about would have happened within the first minutes of the standoff.........gee I wonder what the difference is............LMAO.

 

[Elfiero]

Is that why the case was dismissed and the Federal Judge reamed out the prosecutor in open court?

This is precisely why leftists hate the 2nd Amendment. An armed population won't willingly get on train cars to "re-education centers". There is no doubt in my mind that you would like to line every person who doesn't share your socialist ideology and shoot them Che Guevara style Elfie.

And as far as tyranny...the right is the undisputed champ of tyranny and plain ol fascism.

former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson launched a thinly veiled but scathing critique of President Donald Trump.

(Even Tillerson seeing it up close and personal is worried.
He was right when he called Chump a "f*****g moron" He's a dangerous moron though.)

“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom,” the former Exxon CEO told Virginia Military Institute graduates Wednesday.

 

[DBS1970]

Article 4 Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution:

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.


The case was declared a mistrial because of incomptence.

Bundy is a criminal regardless of what happened or didn't happen in that courtroom. He is a thief, a racist, and just a general scumbag.

In other words: a typical Trump supporter.

If those had been armed Muslims or African Americans out there the drone strike I talked about would have happened within the first minutes of the standoff.........gee I wonder what the difference is............LMAO.

Needful buildings clause. States own the territory inside their borders except for Military posts, Navy Yards, Court Houses and Customs Sheds. Nice try though.

 

[Steeltime]

Article 4 Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution:
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

You idiot, that provision - commonly known as the "Property Clause" - simply provides that Congress has the sole authority to enact legislation concerning the management of Federal land. States are thereby precluded from taxing Federal land or providing easements over or the right to remove resources from Federal land, without consent from Congress. The clause has nothing - repeat, NOTHING - to do with the FBI becoming involved in investigating criminal conduct on state land.

Instead, the FBI gets its jurisdiction where a violation of Federal law or a matter of national security is involved.

"What authority do FBI special agents have to make arrests in the United States, its territories, or on foreign soil?
In the U.S. and its territories, FBI special agents may make arrests for any federal offense committed in their presence or when they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed, or is committing, a felony violation of U.S. laws. On foreign soil, FBI special agents generally do not have authority to make arrests except in certain cases where, with the consent of the host country, Congress has granted the FBI extraterritorial jurisdiction.

https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs

Bundy was suspected of violating Federal gun laws, and the BLM and later the FBI claimed jurisdiction because of those laws and because Bundy's cattle grazed in part on Federal land. Article 4, Section 3 had absolutely NOTHING to do with the BLM's involvement. NOTHING.

See, this is why law school matters, dumbass. Lawyers know the difference between Article 4, Section 3 and an assclown. You are one of the foregoing. Idiot.

The case was declared a mistrial because of incomptence.

No it wasn't, you moron. The judge declared a mistrial due to prosecutorial misconduct in failing to reveal and turn over exculpatory evidence:

LAS VEGAS - A federal judge Wednesday declared a mistrial in the prosecution of Nevada cattleman Cliven Bundy, his two sons and a co-defendant, citing the government's "willful'' failure to turn over multiple documents that could help the defense fight conspiracy and assault charges in the 2014 Bunkerville standoff." The court does regrettably believe a mistrial in this case is the most suitable and only remedy,'' U.S. District Judge Gloria M. Navarro declared, issuing her ruling from the bench before a packed courtroom.

The judge listed six types of evidence that she said prosecutors deliberately withheld before trial, including information about the presence of an FBI surveillance camera on a hill overlooking the Bundy ranch and documents about U.S. Bureau of Land Management snipers outside the ranch. The others were maps, an FBI log with entries about snipers on standby, threat assessments that indicated the Bundys weren't violent and that the Bureau of Land Management was trying to provoke a conflict by antagonizing them and nearly 500 pages of internal affairs documents involving lead bureau special agent Dan Love, since fired from the agency.

LMAO.

Actually, the acronym is, "LASEAWL" - Laugh at stupid elfiePoloLiar, a wannabe lawyer.

 

[Stewey]

Actually, the acronym is, "LASEAWL" - Laugh at stupid elfiePoloLiar, a wannabe lawyer.

Whenever Elfie concludes with an LMAO I've always seen it as Lying My *** Off.

 

[Stewey]

............LMAO.

"Lying My *** Off" to you Elfie.

 

[Elfiero]

Needful buildings clause. States own the territory inside their borders except for Military posts, Navy Yards, Court Houses and Customs Sheds. Nice try though.

No DBS. The federal government absolutely has the right to hold and regulate public land. Don't listen to Steeltime or any of the other usual clowns who don't know what they are talking about.

You can ask them about the numerous supreme court decisions that have established that the federal government has that constitutional right. Notice how they don't mention that?

The belief you are reiterating is one that resides in the realm of conspiracy theory/sovereign citizens/tax cheats.

It's nuts. In other words: par for the course when you are an alt-righter.

 

[Steelworth]

He is a thief, a racist, and just a general scumbag.

In other words: a typical Trump supporter.

Can good people be Trump supporters, or at least supporters of a strong (economically, militarily etc.) and safe America? Or is every one just a deplorable racist thieving scumbag?

 

[Steelworth]

Don't listen to Steeltime or any of the other usual clowns who don't know what they are talking about.

Wait, so don't listen to an actual attorney who would know more about this than 95% of the population?