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Study confirms corporate profits going to executives and shareholders, not workers

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Study confirms corporate profits are going to executives and shareholders, not workers

In Trump’s "greatest economy," companies are underpaying their workers and enriching investors.


Man I'm glad we're draining that swamp....whew........LOL

https://thinkprogress.org/worker-in...-economy-stock-buybacks-wealthy-22f1d2af5ab8/

According to President Trump, we are living in “the greatest economy in the HISTORY of America and the best time EVER to look for a job.”

The details reveal something a little different. While unemployment may be low, workers are experiencing historically low wage growth, while companies are responding to Trump’s recent tax cut by routing their profits predominantly to top executives and big shareholders in the form of stock buybacks.

A Wall Street Journal analysis of how 1,111 companies pay their workers released Wednesday morning illustrates this in stark terms. While “median pay lies between about $44,000 and $95,000 for about half of the 1,111 companies in the S&P 1,500 index that have disclosed median employee pay,” zooming into specific large companies that have been actively padding the wallets of their largest shareholders through stock buyback programs reveals that the true priority here is not sustainable long-term raises for middle-class workers.


he Journal’s Theo Francis and Yaryna Serkez found that “employing low-wage workers directly drags median pay down. Median pay at McDonald’s was much lower, at $7,017, in part because McDonald’s directly employs hourly servers at more of its restaurants.” The low median pay at McDonald’s comes as the fast-food behemoth bought back $1.6 billion in stock in the first quarter of 2018 alone.

“At Walmart, with 2.3 million workers, half made less than $19,177,” the Francis and Serkez found. Late last year, Walmart launched a stock buyback initiative to the tune of $20 billion in order to boost its stock prices, which disproportionately enriches the biggest stockholders in the company.

Gap’s very low median pay of $5,375 per year coincided with the company buying back $100 million in stock last quarter.

The median pay at Chipotle was $13,582 — last year it offered a $100 million stock buyback program. They did it again in April. Yum Brands, the parent company of brands like Taco Bell, KFC, and Pizza Hut, paid its workers a median yearly wage of $9,111. Late last year they offered a $1.5 billion stock buyback program, and recently reporting $528 million in buybacks in the first quarter of 2018 alone.

Amazon, anomalous with the companies on this list, has not run a stock buyback in six years, and its median pay was $28,446, according to the Journal.

Some of these figures are misleading — median pay at Dunkin Donuts appears high because most of its direct employees are office workers, for example, with nearly all of the people who work in or operate the retail stores working for franchisees. Similarly, Hasbro reported a median pay of $74,207 as it outsourced factory workers who earn far less, while Mattel’s figure of $6,271 reflects the fact that it directly employs its factory workers rather than using secondary employment tactics. Other companies employ many seasonal or part-time workers.

Overall, however, this is what weak wage growth looks like.

This is also how corporate America works. A study from the National Employment Law Project and the Roosevelt Institute, released Tuesday, found that between 2015 and 2017, “companies spent almost 60 percent of net profits on buybacks.” They do this instead of investing in worker pay.

n fact, the restaurant industry spent more money on stock buybacks than they actually earned in profits, fueling the buybacks with debt and existing cash reserves. “Companies in the retail and food manufacturing industries spent 79.2 percent and 58.2 percent, respectively, of their net profits on share buybacks,” the report’s authors found. This was the state of play just before the tax cut, passed late last year, caused an even higher surge of buybacks — which reveals the priorities of these companies, and the politicians who fought so hard to cut corporate taxes.


If McDonald’s had spent the money it poured into stock buybacks between 2015 and 2017, it could have given raises of $4,000 per year to its 1.9 million workers, according to the new study.

The effort to make the nation’s wealthiest investors even richer doesn’t stop with tax cuts and stock buybacks — the Trump administration is also considering a ploy to bypass Congress and let people who sell their assets pay even less in capital gains, which would mean a $100 billion tax cut for the rich.
 
oh dear Lord, there are so many things wrong with that "study"....it doesn't tell you anything about wage growth.
 
so just a couple of questions about the "study"

what were the median wages before the change?
did the staff level increase or decrease?
what is the typical level among those companies competitors?

a better measure would be hourly rate and not median earnings....how many of those employees are part time or just seasonal help?
did the companies hire more staff or reduce staff level?

those are more telling that the "findings" of this "study"
 
That fake news study doesn't mention the countless examples of bonuses and raises or all of the new employees that businesses have hired since Trump won and especially since the tax cuts.
 
That fake news study doesn't mention the countless examples of bonuses and raises or all of the new employees that businesses have hired since Trump won and especially since the tax cuts.

of course not....that doesn't fit the agenda.....but liberals don't and won't care...they will take it and run with it....like the ******* retards they are
 
Why would profits not go to shareholders? That’s the whole ******* point of why people buy stocks. I love being lectured by people with a 5th grader’s understanding of economics.

When all you know or care about is Socialism, this sort of stuff might as well be in a foreign language you can't speak.
 
Why would profits not go to shareholders? That’s the whole ******* point of why people buy stocks. I love being lectured by people with a 5th grader’s understanding of economics.
Businesses would be so much more gooder if they weren't motivated by profit. They would go out of business and all the employees would be out of their jobs, but they would be gooder.
 
Businesses would be so much more gooder if they weren't motivated by profit. They would go out of business and all the employees would be out of their jobs, but they would be gooder.

That’s socialism. Take away drive and incentive for success.
 
The details reveal something a little different. While unemployment may be low, workers are experiencing historically low wage growth

Don't let the facts get in the way, ThinkLeftistStealFromCapitalistsSinceLeftistsEarnShit.org:

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Huh, look at that. Real median income fell during Bammy's last two years in office, but have rallied significantly since Trump took office.

Significantly.

Stop patrolling fake news sites. You will be better for it.
 
Are executives not workers? Are we now supposed to pay the janitors the same amount the company president makes?

People are paid according to the demand for their skills and abilities. Lower skilled, less educated, less experienced workers make less. Highly skilled, highly educated, more experienced workers make more. Is there something wrong with that now?

Generally everyone who has a retirement plan of some sort is a shareholder of numerous companies. Should they not get any return on their investment?
 
Why would profits not go to shareholders? That’s the whole ******* point of why people buy stocks. I love being lectured by people with a 5th grader’s understanding of economics.

So then we can't expect you with your 4th grade education to understand that the lie we were fed went something like: " If we give a tax cut to the ' job creators' then they will reinvest in equipment and employees."

They stashed it for themselves, just like those of us with an IQ above 70 knew they would. They don't pay their fair share, that's why they have to feed us the trickle down B.S. so they can get away with this crap. They have to convince the average Republitard of the trickle down B.S. first so they can keep their political puppets in power.

You'll figure it out when you grow up champ.
 
So then we can't expect you with your 4th grade education to understand that the lie we were fed went something like: " If we give a tax cut to the ' job creators' then they will reinvest in equipment and employees."

They stashed it for themselves, just like those of us with an IQ above 70 knew they would. They don't pay their fair share, that's why they have to feed us the trickle down B.S. so they can get away with this crap. They have to convince the average Republitard of the trickle down B.S. first so they can keep their political puppets in power.

You'll figure it out when you grow up champ.

as I stated before...this "study" proves nothing....it does not tell you a damn thing except the bullshit the author wanted to spew....have them answer my earlier questions...then there is something to discuss
 
So then we can't expect you with your 4th grade education to understand that the lie we were fed went something like: " If we give a tax cut to the ' job creators' then they will reinvest in equipment and employees."

Try to follow my recent approach in tone, elfie. I am not going to engage in insults with anyone. It's just not worth it. Try to stick to the point under discussion.

Specifically, the graph I posted above shows that median income has gone up significantly after Trump took office and after his tax cuts, compared to the declining median income for Bammy's last 1 1/2 years.

Also, it's important to note that median income is defined as follows: "Median income is the amount that divides the income distribution into two equal groups, half having income above that amount, and half having income below that amount." Therefore, an explosion of earnings among the top 1% or 10% or whatever does NOT raise median income. Rising income among a broad spectrum of citizens is needed to raise median income, explaining why it is the best data for showing broad-based economic benefit of a productive economy.

Finally, sites like "Think Progress" are vile and almost universally dishonest. You really should stop fraternizing such sites.
 
So then we can't expect you with your 4th grade education to understand that the lie we were fed went something like: " If we give a tax cut to the ' job creators' then they will reinvest in equipment and employees."

They stashed it for themselves, just like those of us with an IQ above 70 knew they would. They don't pay their fair share, that's why they have to feed us the trickle down B.S. so they can get away with this crap. They have to convince the average Republitard of the trickle down B.S. first so they can keep their political puppets in power.

You'll figure it out when you grow up champ.

Wages increase when employers have to compete with other employers for talent. The more people are employed, the more competition there is for talent. Now employers have enough money to pay higher wages. Thank you President Trump.

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Again, sticking to the facts. The cited "article" states in part:

"At Walmart, with 2.3 million workers, half made less than $19,177,” the Francis and Serkez found. Late last year, Walmart launched a stock buyback initiative to the tune of $20 billion in order to boost its stock prices, which disproportionately enriches the biggest stockholders in the company. [¶] Gap’s very low median pay of $5,375 per year coincided with the company buying back $100 million in stock last quarter. [¶] The median pay at Chipotle was $13,582 — last year it offered a $100 million stock buyback program. They did it again in April. Yum Brands, the parent company of brands like Taco Bell, KFC, and Pizza Hut, paid its workers a median yearly wage of $9,111. Late last year they offered a $1.5 billion stock buyback program, and recently reporting $528 million in buybacks in the first quarter of 2018 alone. [¶] Amazon, anomalous with the companies on this list, has not run a stock buyback in six years, and its median pay was $28,446, according to the Journal."

Okay. How have those median incomes changed over the past 18 months?? Isn't that really the question?
 
Specifically, the graph I posted above shows that median income has gone up significantly after Trump took office and after his tax cuts, compared to the declining median income for Bammy's last 1 1/2 years..

Steeltime, for your consideration, check out this article in Business Insider, hardly a hotbed of liberal economic policy.

Trump's recent statements about the economy are false or exaggerated — here are 4 charts that prove it
https://www.businessinsider.com/charts-prove-trumps-statements-about-economy-are-false-2018-7

Regarding the circle jerk here at SN over the 4.1% growth for a quarter.

President Trump summoned the television cameras to the South Lawn on Friday to extol the second quarter GDP figures and the overall state of the economy. While no one can dispute that the economy continues to recover and add jobs, a number of Mr. Trump's assertions were false or exaggerated.

First, as this chart shows, a growth rate of 4.1% in a single quarter is high but hardly unprecedented. President Obama had four quarters of higher growth and several others of growth nearly as high. More importantly, the annual growth rate (shown in red) remains in the same range that it has been since the recovery took hold in 2010. Finally, it's important to note that private economists expect the second quarter figure to be an aberration. Goldman Sachs projects a 3% growth rate for the third quarter and then continuing declines in the growth rate to less than 2%.
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On your point regarding wages:

Mr. Trump made only a passing reference to wage growth. That's because pay increases after adjusting for inflation have been far slower under Mr. Trump than under President Obama. Mr. Obama averaged real wage increases of 0.8%; Mr. Trump has averaged only 0.3%. And in part due to rising prices, particularly for gasoline, American workers have received no real pay increase at all in the past two months.

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And finally, let's take a realistic - non-bellicose Trump - look at job growth.

Mr. Trump's claims about job growth also needs to be put in context. The nation has been adding jobs steadily since the recovery began early in Mr. Obama's presidency. Indeed, the rate of job growth during Mr. Trump's first 18 months in office (193,000 jobs per month) is slightly less than the rate at which jobs were added during Mr. Obama's final 18 months (206,000 per month.)

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The issue with Trump is he does so much grandstanding and embelishing, it's hard to take anything he says at face value. In normal times, we'd all be acknowledging (and cheering) a strong Q2 and the relatively positive economic numbers. But he delves so deeply in lies and hyperbole, it forces you to take pause and try to figure out if he's truly incapacitated, insane or just ëating paint chips for breakfast. Trump is truly his own worse enemy, regardless how the US economy happens to be performing.
 
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Aside from hiring two new employees and giving bonuses and raises to existing employees, my sister and I set up nice fat quarterly bonuses for both of us, the owners. The horror!!!!!!!!!!!


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Oh, and we have earmarked money for equipment upgrades. We need a new palletizer and a new dust collector. Everything Trump said was true.


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This same study also confirmed that the sky is blue and fire is hot.
 
Um, maybe the "workers" should buy the company stock as an investment, so they have a stake in what they do for a living.

I know, crazy thought.
 
The issue with Trump is he does so much grandstanding and embelishing, it's hard to take anything he says at face value. In normal times, we'd all be acknowledging (and cheering) a strong Q2 and the relatively positive economic numbers. But he delves so deeply in lies and hyperbole, it forces you to take pause and try to figure out if he's truly incapacitated, insane or just ëating paint chips for breakfast. Trump is truly his own worse enemy, regardless how the US economy happens to be performing.

Your statement, I am sorry to say, simply demonstrates that your Trump hatred overwhelms your ability to reason. That approach is shared with millions who are unwilling to give credit where credit is due, because "Trump."

Annual GDP growth was 1.9% during 2016, Obama's last year in office. Trump took over a slowing economy, as GDP growth was just 1.8% for the 4th quarter of 2016, a decline from 2.8% for the 3rd quarter. Trump's 1st quarter GDP growth was 1.2%, consistent with the downturn, but he implemented lowering of regulations and the tax cut, which triggered GDP growth of 3.1%, 3.2%, and 2.9% in the following three quarters.

https://www.statista.com/statistics...-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/

The 2nd quarter of 2018 saw a 4.1% GDP growth, and the annual GDP growth for 2018 now stands at 3.42% - which will be higher than any annual GDP growth under Obama. Ever. If the 3rd quarter follows suit from the 2nd quarter, the annual GDP growth will approach 3.8%. Once again, higher than Obama ever oversaw. EVER.

Further, the wage decline began under Obama's last year in office, consistent with the slowing of GDP growth. These figures are from the Federal Reserve. Note how real median income declined from January, 2015 to December, 2016 - Obama's last two years in office:

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Also note that real median income dropped in Trump's first month in office, continuing the downward trend from December, 2016, but since then has gone on two demonstrable increases, to the highest level over the past 20 years (in real dollars).

I don't know where BID is getting the data, Tibs. Real median income flat-lined during Obama's last two years, and suffered a significant dip in his last month in office, and has rallied quite nicely since then.
 
In the middle of the Obama administration, my work’s parent corporation publicly told all employees that they were freezing wage raises for all employees for two years in order to stimulate dividends... but that while all non executives would see a reduced bonus, all executive level employees over a certain pay grade would receive their full bonus so the company wouldn’t “lose top end talent”

... people are greedy and selfish ... that true regardless of what economic system is in place or who is in office...
 
So then we can't expect you with your 4th grade education to understand that the lie we were fed went something like: " If we give a tax cut to the ' job creators' then they will reinvest in equipment and employees."

They stashed it for themselves, just like those of us with an IQ above 70 knew they would. They don't pay their fair share, that's why they have to feed us the trickle down B.S. so they can get away with this crap. They have to convince the average Republitard of the trickle down B.S. first so they can keep their political puppets in power.

You'll figure it out when you grow up champ.

Trickle down is reality. Libs just don't understand how it works. And they ignore that it works every time it is allowed to flow without taxes and regulations damming it up.

Keeping shareholders happy means higher stock prices, which then means more money to expand the business, which means hiring more workers, which means more income tax to the government, It also usually means more orders for suppliers etc, so their businesses expand as well.
 
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