The Coronavirus thread

[Troglodyte]

before we go on, you should address your statement to Tim.
I gave you time to do so. You need to sak up and admit it was below the belt.
Love and tolerance is a staple preached from your side. Show it, ********.

Sorry, Tim. It wasn’t meant as an insult to your son. My understanding is that you have more than one son, and only one had Covid, hence “Covid kid”.

 

[Superman]

Sorry, Tim. It wasn’t meant as an insult to your son. My understanding is that you have more than one son, and only one had Covid, hence “Covid kid”.

really? that's a ****** ******* way to admit you were wrong, Flogtard.
does it really matter if Tim has just one kid or more? your statement was crass and ******.

par for the course for you, though.

 

[Troglodyte]

Your COVID worshipping is disturbing.

First premise...the premise all of you lockdown morons won't accept...it's a VIRUS. As one of the leading epidemiologists said "It's coming for all of us, we need to slow the curve. It is a virus and it will take the course of any normal virus."

The lockdowns and facemasks are NOT and were NEVER going to stop the virus taking its course. The GOAL was to slow it down, not to overwhelm hospitals, rememeber?

Now that your dumb *** gets the premise that we were never going to eradicate or eliminate the virus, only slow its spread...you understand that the normal bell curve will apply for the virus.

Let's look at your cherry picked states...the last time you did this I beat your *** with data and you ran and hid like the punk you are. Suppose you will again.

The more you test the more you discover cases, many of which would never have been discovered.

Tests/1M Population :

Now look at that chart. The first glaring point is that PA ranks 49th in Tests/1M population. FORTY ******* NINTH. For a population of 12.8Million, they have administered only 212,217 tests??? **** I live in MD and we've done 555,981 tests with a population of 6 million.

THANK YOU for agreeing that Gov Wolfe is doing a terrible job with COVID, as most blue state Governors are. Testing is available, PA is failing.

But look further at the chart...we know people get multiple tests sometimes, but stay with me. Just assume each test represents 1 person tested. Look at the % of the population tested? Weird, huh??? These "rube" states you've pointed out have tested a SUBSTANTIAL portion of their population...PA? A scant percentage.

Now look at the cases per state on a graph Floggy (pictures are easy for you right?):

Now stay with me Flogged, a 3rd grader could track on this....

See the differences in the charts? See how PA has not one but TWO ******* bell curves? Now look at North/South Dakota and Wyoming...they are just entering their first curves...

As we know, not all states got hit when NY did, some were delayed and predictably it's hitting the Dakotas and other less populous western states last.

But back to Steeltime's point...if FACEMASKS and LOCKDOWNS were working, why the **** does PA's graph look like that, HMMMmmm???? Wolfe has implemented near severe lockdown measures and facemask rules. Yet.....on August 25, PA had 520 new cases....on October 26 they had 2,492 cases

If Lockdowns and Facemasks work so god damned well Floggy, why the **** are cases in PA now nearly FIVE TIMES HIGHER in October than they were in August??

I'll wait on for you to explain how North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming as compared to PA show the effectiveness of facemasks and lockdowns.

Or could it be what we've been saying all along to you dumbass liberals - facemasks and lockdowns really are having little to no effect, the virus is coming for all of us, and the only ******* thing that matters is a vaccine, period. Otherwise, ride it out.

Whatevs. Deaths/100,000 for the aforementioned states are currently (past week) 2.5 to 6.5 times higher than Pennsylvania. Explanation?

Arizona was able to get their Covid surge under control after they imposed restrictions. What’s your counter-explanation for that?

 

[Steeler Pride]

No, it’s a rate. 1/100 is the same as 1,000/100,000.

If the population is 12,000,000 and you are testing 5% or you are testing 500,000 and testing 30%, the rate is morphed by the overall population and those tested. It is not a hard concept to grasp unless you are trying to push an agenda.

 

[Steeler Pride]

Sorry, Tim. It wasn’t meant as an insult to your son. My understanding is that you have more than one son, and only one had Covid, hence “Covid kid”.

Anytime an apology goes along the lines of "I'm Sorry, BUT..." you can throw out everything before the BUT.

 

[Troglodyte]

really? that's a ****** ******* way to admit you were wrong, Flogtard.
does it really matter if Tim has just one kid or more? your statement was crass and ******.

par for the course for you, though.

C’mon! Tim (among others) has dismissed Covid as “less dangerous than the flu”, “the sniffles”, “the most overblown disease ever”, etc. but referring to his kid that had Covid and recovered as his “Covid kid” is below the belt and terribly offensive to everyone? Why?

 

[Superman]

C’mon! Tim (among others) has dismissed Covid as “less dangerous than the flu”, “the sniffles”, “the most overblown disease ever”, etc. but referring to his kid that had Covid and recovered as his “Covid kid” is below the belt and terribly offensive to everyone? Why?

actually, he - nor anyone - has dismissed the Rona as being less than serious.

what he - and everyone else - has questioned is the reaction to the Rona.

but you're too willfully ******* obtuse to see that, on your knees at the Covid Altar.

No one - LITERALLY NO ONE - has said that this virus is going to just disappear. Yet per the Left, we all have to wear masks. Masks that filter the virus as well as you ******* apologize for a ****** ******* remark.

 

[Steeltime]

Arizona was able to get their Covid surge under control after they imposed restrictions. What’s your counter-explanation for that?

Really? Why don't you tell me what the restrictions were, when they were implemented, how they were lifted, and when they were lifted.

You being an expert on Arizona and all. Zona and I will be fascinated to see your depth of knowledge of Arizona's restrictions.

 

[IndySteel]

actually, he - nor anyone - has dismissed the Rona as being less than serious.
.

To be fair, I have. Pretty much since day one. 99.98% survival rate. Seasonal flu cases have dropped by 98% during this scamdemic.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Arizona was able to get their Covid surge under control after they imposed restrictions. What’s your counter-explanation for that?

PA hasn't gotten it under control. They can't seem to. If lockdowns and facemasks worked, wouldn't they work...everywhere?

You lose again and badly.

Facts and Liberals

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Really? Why don't you tell me what the restrictions were, when they were implemented, how they were lifted, and when they were lifted.

You being an expert on Arizona and all. Zona and I will be fascinated to see your depth of knowledge of Arizona's restrictions.

Yeah he pointed out Norway, Germany, Finland, South Korea and Japan numerous pages ago as 'models for how to address the Rona' but when asked specifically to tell us all what they in fact did (besides have vastly lower obesity and diabetes than us) the answer was deafening silence.

Don't expect an answer here.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Seasonal flu cases have dropped by 98% during this scamdemic.

I would love a link or data that confirms this. I've said all along, we are seeing flu cases being consumed as COVID cases. Falsely inflating the baseline exacerbates everything else down the line.

 

[Steeler Pride]

I would love a link or data that confirms this. I've said all along, we are seeing flu cases being consumed as COVID cases. Falsely inflating the baseline exacerbates everything else down the line.

http://https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

That is a pretty good site, if you can make sense of all of the fluff they put on the page.

 

[Troglodyte]

PA hasn't gotten it under control. They can't seem to. If lockdowns and facemasks worked, wouldn't they work...everywhere?

You lose again and badly.

Facts and Liberals

Nonsense. PA is like 36th in cases/pop. and 30th in deaths. The states doing better are almost exclusively red states. Again why is PAs death rate so much lower than ND, SD and WY?

Denial and Trumptards. Leaning into the curve.

 

[IndySteel]

Flog + Math = Oil + Water

 

[Troglodyte]

Yeah he pointed out Norway, Germany, Finland, South Korea and Japan numerous pages ago as 'models for how to address the Rona' but when asked specifically to tell us all what they in fact did (besides have vastly lower obesity and diabetes than us) the answer was deafening silence.

Don't expect an answer here.

Germany is like 50% lower in obesity and barely lower in diabetes, and you contribute that to them having 1/6th as many Covid deaths? Denial Tim, denial. Oh, and Germany had police fine people for not wearing masks. The Asian countries understood and accepted the science behind it as opposed to Trumtard’s “science man bad!” attitude.

 

[Troglodyte]

17 states with record Covid hospitalizations, almost all solid red states. Rounding the curve...

 

[Superman]

Nonsense. PA is like 36th in cases/pop. and 30th in deaths. The states doing better are almost exclusively red states. Again why is PAs death rate so much lower than ND, SD and WY?

Denial and Trumptards. Leaning into the curve.

17 states with record Covid hospitalizations, almost all solid red states. Rounding the curve...

you don't read what you write, do you? just ham it out on the keyboard and whatever ******* appears, that's your contribution. right?

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[Hines57]

17 states with record Covid hospitalizations, almost all solid red states. Rounding the curve...

Still learning how to read a chart? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

[Steeltime]

Flog, you lying, freeloading, useless bag of feces. 6 of the top 7 states in terms of Chinese flu deaths have (D)im governnors, led by the mass murdering moron, Andrew "The Scythe" Cuomo.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103688/coronavirus-covid19-deaths-us-by-state/

Montana, South Dakota, North Dakota, Utah, Idaho, and Nebraska have COMBINED deaths (that means added together you lying ****) totaling just 3,176. That is less than ONE-FOURTH the number of nursing home residents Cuomo murdered.

Also, you ignorant lying *****, in terms of per capita, the United States - overwhelmed with deaths due to Republican governors according to you - ranks 31st in deaths per million of population over the past 30 days.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Goddamn, apparently Republican governors have overtaken and are now running the Chinese flu situations in Portugal, Spain, Hungary, Poland, Belgium, Argentina, Iran, France, the UK, Mexico, Costa Rica, Italy, Netherlands, Ukraine, Switzerland, Portugal and Georgia.

Okay, there it is, Georgia and those freaking Republicans. I mean apart from Stacy Abrams, who is a model of health, that state ... what, it's a country in Eastern Europe? Tbilisi! Never mind.

And this map, hoo-boy, from yesterday shows the Chinese flu explosion in those Republican-led western states (Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Arizona, Montana, Wyoming).

Devastating. Almost as if the outbreak is so horrific the guys making the map turned the deep, DEEP red, so deeply red it became white.

And look at the **** those Republican governors in Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin and Illinois have wrought. Jee-zus H. Christ, look at that ******* map!! For the love of God, can we put (D)ims in charge of those states to stem the number of people getting a virus? I mean the carnage those Republican governors and mayors are ... what? Oh. Never mind.

(D)ims ... so stupid they believe paying more taxes will change the weather, and locking people indoors will make a virus disappear.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Nonsense. PA is like 36th in cases/pop. and 30th in deaths. The states doing better are almost exclusively red states. Again why is PAs death rate so much lower than ND, SD and WY.

Let me take this slow, and this time try to stay on point....

You have advocated for masks and lock downs throughout. Because you believe they work. Am I right? Of course I am, you have taken this position.

Now look at this chart again closely. Masks were mandated July 6 in PA. Can you find that date on the little graph below? I'm sure you can. After the mask mandate, what happened to the # of cases?

Let's take this really really slowly. See how they "increase"....those little lines increase? That means after July 6, cases went up. Immediately after. Then they subsided a little...and now they are drastically increasing to 5X the level we saw that month.

Do you think masks worked?

Let's look at that little graph thingy again shall we? Do you know what happened on April 1? No?? I'll remind you. That's the date PA issued the state-wide stay at home order.

The statewide stay-at-home order takes effect at 8 p.m. today, Wednesday, April 1, 2020, and will continue until April 30. All Pennsylvania schools will remain closed until further notice and non-life-sustaining business closures remain in effect.

Can you plot with your little finger April 1 on that little graph thingy? I'm sure you can. Can you tell me what happened to cases AFTER April 1?

Holy cow...just like after the mask mandate...cases increased...and are now increasing again.

Care to share how you look at those graphs while simultaneously saying in PA masks and lock downs worked?

Or are you ready to admit...it's a virus and it will take its course, no matter what?

 

[Troglodyte]

Still learning how to read a chart? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

LOL! As you post a chart that doesn’t include HOSPITALIZATIONS.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Germany is like 50% lower in obesity and barely lower in diabetes, and you contribute that to them having 1/6th as many Covid deaths? Denial Tim, denial. Oh, and Germany had police fine people for not wearing masks. The Asian countries understood and accepted the science behind it as opposed to Trumtard’s “science man bad!” attitude.

Just cracks me up when Liberals run around spewing facts that aren't so.

Our obesity rate is 36.2%
Germany's is 22.3%

A 47.5% difference, or a 62.6% increase.

Over 1/3 of our population is obese. Nearly 25% of Germany's is. What is the exponential factor when you include that 62.6% increase or 47.5% difference? Morbidly obese COVID-19 patients are 60% more likely to die or require intubation, compared with people of normal weight, researchers found. Patients who were mildly obese were 10% more likely to die or need a breathing machine, while those who were moderately obese were 30% more likely, according to the study.

So when you factor in that we are 47.5% higher in difference in obesity, then extrapolate that by 60% more likely to die, 30% more likely to die or 10% more likely to die against the additional numbers of obese people we have you will see an exponential increase in deaths. Make sense??

Obesity is far more deadly regarding COVID than diabetes. All one needs to do is look at the chart. Take out the diabetes column if you prefer. The countries with the lowest obesity rates have the lowest deaths per million. Correlated? Yeah to much of a degree.

I'm still waiting for you to expand on what these countries did that was so effective, and not anecdotes. What measures did Norway or Vietnam take that we did not that impacted the curve? I've already shown you, there's no evidence masks and lockdowns had an effect. So I'm curious...what brilliant policies did they implement we did not that makes this difference?

Or...could...it...just...be...we are one of the most unhealthy nations on the planet?

 

[jitter77]

Nonsense. PA is like 36th in cases/pop. and 30th in deaths. The states doing better are almost exclusively red states. Again why is PAs death rate so much lower than ND, SD and WY?

Denial and Trumptards. Leaning into the curve.

My area of PA is spiking big time. We are less than 1% away from going red again.

 

[Troglodyte]

Let me take this slow, and this time try to stay on point....

You have advocated for masks and lock downs throughout. Because you believe they work. Am I right? Of course I am, you have taken this position.

Now look at this chart again closely. Masks were mandated July 6 in PA. Can you find that date on the little graph below? I'm sure you can. After the mask mandate, what happened to the # of cases?

Let's take this really really slowly. See how they "increase"....those little lines increase? That means after July 6, cases went up. Immediately after. Then they subsided a little...and now they are drastically increasing to 5X the level we saw that month.

Do you think masks worked?

Let's look at that little graph thingy again shall we? Do you know what happened on April 1? No?? I'll remind you. That's the date PA issued the state-wide stay at home order.

The statewide stay-at-home order takes effect at 8 p.m. today, Wednesday, April 1, 2020, and will continue until April 30. All Pennsylvania schools will remain closed until further notice and non-life-sustaining business closures remain in effect.

Can you plot with your little finger April 1 on that little graph thingy? I'm sure you can. Can you tell me what happened to cases AFTER April 1?

Holy cow...just like after the mask mandate...cases increased...and are now increasing again.

Care to share how you look at those graphs while simultaneously saying in PA masks and lock downs worked?

Or are you ready to admit...it's a virus and it will take its course, no matter what?

Put up the same graphs for ND, SD and Wyoming and ask yourself how no restrictions worked. What don’t you understand about 6.5 times as many deaths per pop.?