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And yet we on the right are the fascists.
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And yet we on the right are the fascists.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For a virus with a more than 99% survivability rate. <a href="https://t.co/99yhdj54ir">pic.twitter.com/99yhdj54ir</a></p>— Brandon Straka (@BrandonStraka) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1331061473368567811?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I laugh when people say, " oh the millitary would never turn on the citizens" . If the order was given tomorrow to go door to door and bust into homes to start grabbing the guns, they wouldn't even blink. And if you had some fantasy about standing up to them or engage with your weapons, you'd be killed and they would be happy to do it. All they need is the order .
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I used to believe that myself. Sadly, this is probably a whole lot closer to the truth than it used to be.
Been there,done that. Before I-95 was complete, I remember those detours in SC and GA where you really got to see the backwoods deep South up close and personal. Harsh living conditions,
We would go to the west coast of FL and at that time we'd take I-70 into Ohio then get on I-75 thru KY and TN all the way to FL, but like I said, not all of I-75 was complete. Trip took three days, partly because my mother could only handle about eight hours in the car and had to go to the bathroom every hour and a half. I remember once stopping for lunch at a diner in some little town that was not air conditioned and my sister and I had great fun taking napkins and squashing all the flies against the window. Apparently the flies also move slower in the south. After a while my mother made us stop because she was ready to vomit from the sight of all the bloody squashed flies on the window. We figured we were doing the diner a favor.
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This virus is so scary and so deadly that Democrats keep throwing large indoor parties and not wearing masks. But hey, follow the science, right? And these tards wonder why no one trusts them.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ny-dems-...hout-masks-heres-how-they-reacted-when-caught
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ny-dems-...hout-masks-heres-how-they-reacted-when-caught
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The irony is that "we're all Southerners now" if you're a Deplorable. Southerners since the Civil War were the original Deplorables. The way you describe the worst of the old South is they way they describe you now. Imagine the contempt Wolf has for his subjects?
We are moving there soon. Not excited .
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A lot would not. You also have millions of veterans in these homes. The reality is as soon as the word got out this was going on you'd see some planning and militias forming. I'm pretty sure I could recruit veteran officers sworn to country and constitution.
Now state govenors and whatever forces would follow them that they have authority over it's a hard say. It presents a huge problem when most citizens start fighting back. You start killing citizens, the reluctant ones will all take up arms.
Piece of **** Wolf is shutting down booze sales at 5pm tomorrow. What is the rationale behind that? It's just punishing bars, restaurants and citizens even more. I suppose the rona only attacks people who want an adult beverage now. But only tomorrow night. That guy sucks.
Just another way for the gov’t to get its claws into you....it’s frightening how the populace is just rolling iver and letting this happen.
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When I retired in 2013, I could confidently say that 80% of the active military would disobey that order and refuse to march on American citizens. I would have been one of them. Now, I would estimate it is closer to 50/50. The kids we are getting now are products of the liberal public school system and liberal colleges. They have few principles and stand for nothing. They have been taught that big brother is all powerful and you listen to big brother.
First time I ever heard a Soldier say that nobody needed and AR-15 made me do a double take. He asked why I needed an AR-15, and I politely explained so that I could defend myself against people that believe they can dictate to me what I need and don't need. He smiled, put his head down and said "Touche." I told him that the great thing about America is that I may not agree with what you say or believe, but I will fight to the death to ensure you have continue to have the right to say and believe what you want. I made him understand that this is what Soldiers are here for: to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Even the parts you disagree with. Never surrender you rights, even if you don't want them or feel that you need them. Once they take 2A, everything else falls with it.
Sometimes I wonder what the average person envisions when they picture the average American soldier. My feeling is the perception and reality are in stark contrast.
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For the longest time I was unhappy that I moved to Florida many years ago. Now, I am thankful. Best decision I ever made moving to the south. If states like Texas and Florida turn leftist, we are screwed all around. Which i don't see that happening in Texas, unless too many California's move and bring their asinine politics with them.
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I guess it's from those I have been in contact with over the years. This is a military town. With 2 NAS bases and a nuclear sub base in Kingsland. My neighbor is on one of them. After that we have a lot of retired Army and a ridiculous amount of Marines,Coast Gourd and Air Force. The only liberal i encountered in the lot was in the Air Force, but she was classic, not leftist.
I had one other gentleman who spent 4 years in the Army hated it and used it for school. He was semi liberal,but only in the social sense. Everything else we pretty much agreed on with the biggest being the size of government and spending.
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Is his family's furniture business still open?
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No masks? tisk tisk. I am pro police, but this corona stuff has now reached a place I personally can't support them on this. We past the point of emergency..oh it's just for a few weeks ..err 8 months ago. Now it's just an unconstitutional power grab with one ruler trumping all in each state. Well unless you didn't vote in some commie shitbag leftist governor who is all too eager to wipe his *** on you,your family,your livelihood and your liberty.
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This pretty much sums up how I feel. Covid is not a hoax, masks are of somewhat limited benefit, but the arbitrary, ever-changing and anti-scientific nature of what we've been told over the last several months has hopelessly bungled the cause. It wasn't Trump who screwed up the pandemic response (although his idiotic medical assertions didn't help).
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/the-coming-covid-restriction-backlash/
The Coming Anti-COVID Restriction Backlash
By RICH LOWRY
November 24, 2020 6:30 AM
Many Americans have lost patience with a new normal that has, at times, been arbitrary and poorly thought through.
The backlash is coming.
It already seems clear that the first major political and cultural eruption of the Biden years will be a roiling populist backlash against the next round of COVID restrictions.
We saw this sentiment play out in sporadic anti-lockdown demonstrations last spring, and it has driven ongoing resistance to masks, but it is, in all likelihood, about to reach an entirely new level — fueled by exhaustion with the virus, elite hypocrisy, and the shattered credibility of the public-health establishment.
The ascension of Joe Biden will add force to the reaction. It is an iron law of American politics that whichever party doesn’t control the presidency will suspect the other of plotting to impose a tyranny, so the fear and loathing of COVID restrictions, somewhat muted on the right while Donald Trump was president, will deepen and intensify.
The Right’s populism and limited-government impulse, which separated in the Trump years, will presumably be reunited in the push against lockdowns in a way that they haven’t been since the Tea Party.
Lockdowns. Mask police. Curfews. What about freedom?” asked conservative Representative Jim Jordan in a recent tweet, forecasting things to come.
It’d be much better if we could find a prudent middle path through the next several months, as the pandemic enters its worst phase and as new vaccines arrive that will soon start changing everything. But a significant segment of the American public has lost its patience with a new normal that has, at times, been arbitrary and poorly thought through.
When the new virus first hit our shores and we knew much less about it, the case for lockdowns was strong to keep the health-care system from getting overwhelmed and to play for time (and better treatments). In retrospect, though, the nationwide lockdowns of the spring closed down some states before they experienced their initial waves of the disease, imposing economic, mental-health, and medical costs without much upside.
Especially when the latest advice runs against the grain of one of the nation’s oldest traditions, namely Thanksgiving, and when prominent pro-restriction officeholders discredit themselves with their own behavior.
A week or so ago, Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot told residents of her city, “You must cancel the normal Thanksgiving plans. Particularly if they include guests that do not live in your immediate household.”
Yet just days earlier she happily joined a crowd celebrating Joe Biden’s election victory. Afterwards she said that there are times when “we actually do need to have relief and come together,” without explaining why this wide-ranging justification wouldn’t apply to the Thanksgiving gatherings she wanted to cancel.
During this moment, the political class should have been especially sensitive to playing by its own rules, when those rules have been so relatively easy to bear for the elite and so punishing for ordinary workers. Still, the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom have flouted COVID strictures rather than forgo a visit to a hair salon or world-class French restaurant.
The appeal of such politicians and the incoming Biden administration is always to public-health experts, even though they, too, have largely jettisoned any claim to public trust.
To simplify and generalize, at the start of this year, they downplayed the virus for fear that it would stoke xenophobia. Then, they lurched into five-alarm-fire mode.
They poured cold water on masks, before turning around and insisting on them despite ambiguous evidence on the efficacy of cloth masks.
They preached the gospel of social distancing until mass Black Lives Matter protests erupted, blessing these huge, often unruly gatherings because fighting racism is supposedly a paramount public-health issue.
The upshot will be poisonous contention in the months ahead before the advent of that most American solution — the clever technological fix, in the form of transformative vaccines.
© 2020 by King Features Syndicate
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/the-coming-covid-restriction-backlash/
The Coming Anti-COVID Restriction Backlash
By RICH LOWRY
November 24, 2020 6:30 AM
Many Americans have lost patience with a new normal that has, at times, been arbitrary and poorly thought through.
The backlash is coming.
It already seems clear that the first major political and cultural eruption of the Biden years will be a roiling populist backlash against the next round of COVID restrictions.
We saw this sentiment play out in sporadic anti-lockdown demonstrations last spring, and it has driven ongoing resistance to masks, but it is, in all likelihood, about to reach an entirely new level — fueled by exhaustion with the virus, elite hypocrisy, and the shattered credibility of the public-health establishment.
The ascension of Joe Biden will add force to the reaction. It is an iron law of American politics that whichever party doesn’t control the presidency will suspect the other of plotting to impose a tyranny, so the fear and loathing of COVID restrictions, somewhat muted on the right while Donald Trump was president, will deepen and intensify.
The Right’s populism and limited-government impulse, which separated in the Trump years, will presumably be reunited in the push against lockdowns in a way that they haven’t been since the Tea Party.
Lockdowns. Mask police. Curfews. What about freedom?” asked conservative Representative Jim Jordan in a recent tweet, forecasting things to come.
It’d be much better if we could find a prudent middle path through the next several months, as the pandemic enters its worst phase and as new vaccines arrive that will soon start changing everything. But a significant segment of the American public has lost its patience with a new normal that has, at times, been arbitrary and poorly thought through.
When the new virus first hit our shores and we knew much less about it, the case for lockdowns was strong to keep the health-care system from getting overwhelmed and to play for time (and better treatments). In retrospect, though, the nationwide lockdowns of the spring closed down some states before they experienced their initial waves of the disease, imposing economic, mental-health, and medical costs without much upside.
Especially when the latest advice runs against the grain of one of the nation’s oldest traditions, namely Thanksgiving, and when prominent pro-restriction officeholders discredit themselves with their own behavior.
A week or so ago, Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot told residents of her city, “You must cancel the normal Thanksgiving plans. Particularly if they include guests that do not live in your immediate household.”
Yet just days earlier she happily joined a crowd celebrating Joe Biden’s election victory. Afterwards she said that there are times when “we actually do need to have relief and come together,” without explaining why this wide-ranging justification wouldn’t apply to the Thanksgiving gatherings she wanted to cancel.
During this moment, the political class should have been especially sensitive to playing by its own rules, when those rules have been so relatively easy to bear for the elite and so punishing for ordinary workers. Still, the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom have flouted COVID strictures rather than forgo a visit to a hair salon or world-class French restaurant.
The appeal of such politicians and the incoming Biden administration is always to public-health experts, even though they, too, have largely jettisoned any claim to public trust.
To simplify and generalize, at the start of this year, they downplayed the virus for fear that it would stoke xenophobia. Then, they lurched into five-alarm-fire mode.
They poured cold water on masks, before turning around and insisting on them despite ambiguous evidence on the efficacy of cloth masks.
They preached the gospel of social distancing until mass Black Lives Matter protests erupted, blessing these huge, often unruly gatherings because fighting racism is supposedly a paramount public-health issue.
The upshot will be poisonous contention in the months ahead before the advent of that most American solution — the clever technological fix, in the form of transformative vaccines.
© 2020 by King Features Syndicate
Well every school in the district is full remote until January. I’ll be losing 5 hours a week of pay from my after school elementary program. Whoop tie ****. I’m over all of this. I didn’t care what they decided, just ThAT they decided.
Can you imagine when (it's not a question of "if" any longer IMO) an actual deadly pandemic makes it's way to our shores? Now that they've seen the absolute hysteria and freedoms we're forgoing in the name of 'safety'?
Our health/pandemic readiness experts in high places better be earning their moolah and working overtime on this ****. This was an unmitigated disaster.
That is a tremendous article, will be sharing.
However, the article does not state that masks are of somewhat limited benefit. The author makes no opinion on their effectiveness. The following is merely an observation that politicians have waffled on their mask opinions: "They poured cold water on masks, before turning around and insisting on them despite ambiguous evidence on the efficacy of cloth masks." Nowhere in the article does the author state they have even limited benefit. Just says the evidence about mask wearing is ambiguous.
Otherwise, a tremendous article.
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That was my own opinion based on everything I've read and observed. My point is whether masks are effective or not the way they've been rolled out has been a disaster.
Gotya, my confusion.