The Coronavirus thread

[Tim Steelersfan]

But Tim, the lockdowns worked, you betcha, keep people home, that's the ticket, yesiree, you bet, no doubt, not a single bit of data suggesting that the lockdown orders that killed the economy, kept children out of school, destroyed savings, destroyed private businesses, destroyed lives, increased suicide, failed at all, nope, none, la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la.

New Study Reveals That Stay-at-Home Orders Backfired. Here's Why | Jon Miltimore

Last May, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said he was shocked to learn that 66 percent of New Yorkers hospitalized for COVID had been staying at home. "This is a surprise," Cuomo said. "We were thinking that maybe we were going to find a higher percent of essential employees who were getting sick...

fee.org

No worries, Tim. Floggy has no kids who lost out on 1 1/2 years of school, sports, opportunities. Floggy also made bank during the lockdowns and hoo-boy, traffic was sooo good.

I literally just got done reading that same article.

I keep saying, people are going to look back on this phase in history the way we look back on doctors wearing beak masks and say "what the hell were they thinking???"

 

[Steeltime]

All Hail Joe...a man riding on someone else's successes and claiming them as his own. Of course you could enlighten us on what exactly his Administration has done that was different beyond simply adopting Trump's plan.

Now hold on, Tim. Biden may be dumb, weird, creepy, suffering dementia, unable to climb into a plane, have a dog that is an ******* like its owner, but he would not resort to plagiarism ...

Six days before he withdrew from the 1987-88 presidential race, then-Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.), who was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, confessed that he had plagiarized a paper in law school, as the Washington Post reported at the time with the headline, "Biden Admits Plagiarizing in Law School."

Flashback: 'Biden Admits Plagiarizing in Law School,' 'Academic Claims Inaccurate'

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www.cnsnews.com

Well, okay, one youthful indiscretion. I mean, if I had plagiarized in law school, I would have been expelled, but the guy is a genius and I am sure the work he stole, uhh, borrowed, was something he would have crafted on his own if he had more ... brains, I guess. And intellect. And integrity.

But come on, man, one minor, expulsion-worthy glitch. That's IT.

Following these latest incidents, one can’t help but flash back to Biden’s well-documented history of plagiarism, which dates to his first presidential campaign in the summer of 1987, a bid that ended ignominiously amid repeated examples of plagiarism and outright fabrication.

It’s also important to note that he’s been accused of lifting entire sections of speeches from others for his own use without attribution. And of copying, almost word for word, policy platforms of other candidates.

He’s even been caught lying to voters about his academic record. Biden acknowledged that he had plagiarized during his time at Syracuse University Law School. The law school had him repeat a first-year class, after initially flunking him, for copying at least five pages from a published law review article.

Thirty-three years is a long time ago. The problem is that Joe Biden has never really stopped. In 2008, then-Sen. Biden copied an entire paragraph from a Time magazine story on then-newly elected President Lee Myung-Bak of South Korea and used it for a speech, without attribution. Biden had the stolen language read into an official congressional resolution in February 2008.

His problem with copying the work of others is so widespread that a 2019 incident, in which the Biden campaign released a climate plan using exactly the same language as outside left-wing groups, without attribution, barely made news.

Joe Biden's Plagiarism Problem | RealClearPolitics

Last week, Democrat nominee for president Joe Biden delivered an economic speech under the slogan Build Back Better. Despite the radical proposals contained within the speech, thats some...

www.realclearpolitics.com

I'll see myself out.

 

[Steeltime]

But as an update on the plagiarism issue, okay, Sleepy weirdo thieving creep dunce moron imbecile lazy jackass may have borrowed a few dozen lines, a couple of thousand words here and there, but man that is in the PAST. He stopped as of 2019. Prove otherwise, dammit!!

That’s sloppy, Joe.

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden reprised his penchant for borrowing lines from other people’s work this week — apparently relying a bit too heavily on the words of a deceased Canuck party leader during his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention, reports said.

Biden concluded his Thursday night speech by saying: “For love is more powerful than hate. Hope is more powerful than fear. Light is more powerful than dark.”

But Canadian media quickly noted that the former veep’s words were uncannily similar to those of Jack Layton, the leader of Canada’s left-wing New Democratic Party, who issued a poignant open letter to his fellow citizens as he lay dying in 2011.

“My friends,” Layton wrote, “Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.” Biden’s word play — delivered two days before the nine-year anniversary of Layton’s death — gave some in the Great White North a serious case of déjà vu.

Joe Biden faces new plagiarism claim over DNC acceptance speech

That’s sloppy, Joe. Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden reprised his penchant for borrowing lines from other people’s work this week — apparently relying a bit too heavily o…

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When asked about this most recent instance of stealing another man's work and claiming it as his own, Beijing Joe, Basement Boy, offered this elegant defense:

"Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious summer by this sun of York. Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow, creep in this petty pace from day to day, to the last syllables of recorded time. And all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Two roads diverged in a yellow wood and sorry I could not travel both and be one traveler, long I stood and looked down one as far as I could, to where it bent in the undergrowth. Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."

Moving words.

 

[Troglodyte]

One, we have never said a number. Not once. Ever, in terms of a prediction. You are making said predictions for us. We have said we will not get down into the hundreds. Let's use your logic, as failed as it is as you point to ONE outlier that is NOT indicative of the rest of the country. Let's say Commiefornia could be the model and use your information:



At the 5 cases per 100K/day, California is averaging 1,824 cases per day. Multiply that by 365 days in the year. You get 665,760 cases per year.

Is that close to hundreds???? Not in the same realm as hundreds.

Even if vaccinations increase (despite the graphs below they are trailing off under Xiden) we will still be dealing with a flu-like virus for years...maybe decades...maybe forever.

Here's what else your "extrapolation" horseshit fails to account for, as the Good Dr. Makary continually reminds people - you aren't factoring in "natural immunity" that is out there. Estimates are 30-50% of people ALREADY have natural immunity to COVID. Add that to the 32% that are vaccinated. Now we are back to the "we are at or near herd immunity" point.

Regardless, let's say California gets down to 2 cases per 100K per day. That's still 288K cases a year..........SMH



Do you bother to read anything I've written? Any evidence I've shared? Your side is pushing for masks forever. See the links on the prior pages. Your soldiers want to continue wearing them as a symbol of party affiliation.

You tell me, do you really believe they are going away?



Thanks to Trump, we are where we are. Trump's administration was the reason vaccines were fast tracked and available. His administration had the apparatus in place to deliver the vaccines. Vaccine delivery was already on a hockey-stick trajectory when Xiden assumed office. Joe needed to do literally nothing and the systems were in place for vaccine roll out. He just took the credit.

The vaccine rollout graph below shows day one of Xiden's administration. 892,410 vaccines were administered. The day prior, 911,493 had been delivered. Everything to the left of that vertical line was under Trump. You can see the trajectory had begun. Nothing was stopping it. Thank God Trump put the machinery in place to get this done.

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Now I do find this interesting. One, you can see the hockey stick is consistent. Damn near a vertical linear rising line. No real increases or decreases. It by and large followed the same pattern it had prior to January 20. Again, the inertia was in place and Joe wasn't stopping or accelerating it. But notice the end of the graph? Joe can take credit for a decrease in vaccinations. On April 15, the hockey stick began trending downward....

All Hail Joe...a man riding on someone else's successes and claiming them as his own.

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Of course you could enlighten us on what exactly his Administration has done that was different beyond simply adopting Trump's plan.

Cases per year? WTF? Case rates have always been per day.

Biden made sure the vaccine supply was there. Are you implying he should do something about demand, Mr. Hesitant?

 

[Steeltime]

Biden made sure the vaccine supply was there.

Really? What exactly did he do? Provide the link, please.

 

[IndySteel]

Really? What exactly did he do? Provide the link, please.

Xiden dindo a ******* thing on vaccines, other than not cancel what Trump already had in place.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Do you bother to read anything I've written? Any evidence I've shared? Your side is pushing for masks forever. See the links on the prior pages. Your soldiers want to continue wearing them as a symbol of party affiliation.

Of course you could enlighten us on what exactly his Administration has done that was different beyond simply adopting Trump's plan.

Flog only knows two things: Democrats good, Republicans bad. He isn’t capable of deeper thought than that. It’s why I don’t waste time or bandwidth on him.

 

[Superman]

The US is capable of vaccinating 3 million/day thanks to Joe running the show.

You believe that? You truly believe Joe is running the show? The man is nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G, but a figurehead. The White House has even said that what Joe says is not representative of the Administration.

Think about that. Your elected POTUS is NOT representative of his own damn administration.
Joes NOT calling shots. Joe's doing nothing but peeing himself in public. It's a shame that the DNC chose a man clearly in the throes of alzheimers and dementia to lead the party.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Cases per year? WTF? Case rates have always been per day.

Can you point to where, anywhere, any post, you stated a time period for "cases in the hundreds"?

If we take your nondescript cases per day, that now you have finally specified, you realize that California has to get to TWO cases per day per 100K to be in the hundreds?

In other words, you're essentially stating, masks are never coming off. How very gracious of you HypoFlog.

Further, I'd like you to extrapolate, being the utter genius you are, how this formula works exactly.

In California, they have to get to 2 cases per 100K per day to get to the "hundreds."
Wyoming can have 173 cases per 100K per day, and be in the "hundreds."

So to meet your ridiculous objective, each state will be different on the suffering scale but can meet Floggy's ridiculous goals. Excellent! California has to meet the stringent goal of 2 cases per 100K, but Wyoming can have 173 per 100K, but...both...will be in the hundreds....

Biden made sure the vaccine supply was there. Are you implying he should do something about demand, Mr. Hesitant?

He did? He did???? Show us all how he did. Please post links and articles that reference the miracles of magic Xiden performed to "make sure the supply was there."

Hint: It already was....but go on, make a fool of yourself.

And yes, we have a demand problem. As you yourself have noted, countless don't want to take these versions of vaccines. Is that not something the President of the United States of America should be addressing?

 

[Steeltime]

Flog desperately searching Media Matters and other such reputable sites to answer my question. The problem is he keeps running into pictures of Mooshell wearing a clown suit and fat Hillary in a shower curtain and has to take time to flog the Flog. Very distracting.

In sum, **** Flog, a cheapskate liar.

 

[hamster]

I trust nothing that this government says any more. I will trust intellects like Scott Atlas and Marty Makary on public health policy, not government bureaucrats. I don't even trust the DOJ anymore. I believe they have become tools of the elected elites to use against political opponents. Same with the intelligence community.

 

[Superman]

When Joe placed his pee-stained hand on the Bible and took oath as POTUS, 3.5 million people had already been vaccinated.

FactChecking Biden’s Vaccination Goal - FactCheck.org

President Biden this week boasted on Twitter about his promise to administer 100 million vaccine doses in his first 100 days in office, "With the progress we're making I believe we'll not only reach that, we'll break it." But as some critics have noted, it was a pretty low bar to begin with.

www.factcheck.org

 

[Superman]

footage of Flog posting in this forum

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

footage of Flog posting in this forum

I don’t see it.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Personal ****.

my mother lives alone. My father her husband died many years ago and she has lived a very sheltered life since. Covid ****** her. She is at risk as a pack a day Red smoker since like 12. So she played it safe and I agreed. Well she got her shots but still can’t go out. Can’t do the little things she once found enjoyment in her life doing like going to Rivers Casino with her girlfriend. “But mom, you got the stick, your wearing the stuff”......”I can’t take the risk “they say””. ....her mind is destroyed because of the endless lies and I fear she will never come out of her shell.

I saddens me. Tim and others have mentioned the MH aspect, I can attest to it.

 

[Badcat]

Personal ****.

my mother lives alone. My father her husband died many years ago and she has lived a very sheltered life since. Covid ****** her. She is at risk as a pack a day Red smoker since like 12. So she played it safe and I agreed. Well she got her shots but still can’t go out. Can’t do the little things she once found enjoyment in her life doing like going to Rivers Casino with her girlfriend. “But mom, you got the stick, your wearing the stuff”......”I can’t take the risk “they say””. ....her mind is destroyed because of the endless lies and I fear she will never come out of her shell.

I saddens me. Tim and others have mentioned the MH aspect, I can attest to it.

I'm sorry to hear about your Mom. That is awful. I hope she can find a semblance of normalcy in this ****** up Libtard world.

 

[Booted]

You believe that? You truly believe Joe is running the show? The man is nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G, but a figurehead. The White House has even said that what Joe says is not representative of the Administration.

Think about that. Your elected POTUS is NOT representative of his own damn administration.
Joes NOT calling shots. Joe's doing nothing but peeing himself in public. It's a shame that the DNC chose a man clearly in the throes of alzheimers and dementia to lead the party.

You can't possibly be questioning this man's mental fis... mental phs... fittness

 

[Ron Burgundy]

You can't possibly be questioning this man's mental fis... mental phs... fittness

You know, the thing.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

You believe that? You truly believe Joe is running the show? The man is nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G, but a figurehead. The White House has even said that what Joe says is not representative of the Administration.

Think about that. Your elected POTUS is NOT representative of his own damn administration.
Joes NOT calling shots. Joe's doing nothing but peeing himself in public. It's a shame that the DNC chose a man clearly in the throes of alzheimers and dementia to lead the party.

It's not a shame, he's the perfect guy for the Democrats. All the other staffers, bureaucrats, and swampers were already in place

 

[Superman]

I don’t see it.

change browsers. I couldnt see tweets or gifs using Chrome.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

change browsers. I couldnt see tweets or gifs using Chrome.

I was having that problem as well. I still use Chrome. With the new site, I've never had an issue though.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I get the Captain Obvious Award for Obvious Post of the Day for this one.

Report Shows Liberals Addicted to Lockdowns

Anyone know anyone like this???? Anyone that this article describes utterly, completely, totally, and perfectly?

Report: Some Liberals Have Trouble Quitting Coronavirus Lockdowns

Some left-wing Americans are having trouble emerging from coronavirus lockdowns, according to a new report in the Atlantic.

www.breitbart.com

“Progressive communities have been home to some of the fiercest battles over COVID-19 policies, and some liberal policy makers have left scientific evidence behind,” writes reporter Emma Green, who notes that some ordinary Americans of liberal political persuasions have become so committed to lockdowns that they are having trouble returning to normal life....

But the Atlantic documents a different kind of reluctance — one encouraged by politics:
Lurking among the jubilant Americans venturing back out to bars and planning their summer-wedding travel is a different group: liberals who aren’t quite ready to let go of pandemic restrictions. For this subset, diligence against COVID-19 remains an expression of political identity—even when that means overestimating the disease’s risks or setting limits far more strict than what public-health guidelines permit. In surveys, Democrats express more worry about the pandemic than Republicans do. People who describe themselves as “very liberal” are distinctly anxious. This spring, after the vaccine rollout had started, a third of very liberal people were “very concerned” about becoming seriously ill from COVID-19, compared with a quarter of both liberals and moderates, according to a study conducted by the University of North Carolina political scientist Marc Hetherington. And 43 percent of very liberal respondents believed that getting the coronavirus would have a “very bad” effect on their life, compared with a third of liberals and moderates.

Last year, when the pandemic was raging and scientists and public-health officials were still trying to understand how the virus spread, extreme care was warranted. People all over the country made enormous sacrifices—rescheduling weddings, missing funerals, canceling graduations, avoiding the family members they love—to protect others. Some conservatives refused to wear masks or stay home, because of skepticism about the severity of the disease or a refusal to give up their freedoms. But this is a different story, about progressives who stressed the scientific evidence, and then veered away from it.

For many progressives, extreme vigilance was in part about opposing Donald Trump. Some of this reaction was born of deeply felt frustration with how he handled the pandemic. It could also be knee-jerk.

The Liberals Who Can’t Quit Lockdown

Progressive communities have been home to some of the fiercest battles over COVID-19 policies, and some liberal policy makers have left scientific evidence behind.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[IndySteel]

 

[Troglodyte]

Can you point to where, anywhere, any post, you stated a time period for "cases in the hundreds"?

If we take your nondescript cases per day, that now you have finally specified, you realize that California has to get to TWO cases per day per 100K to be in the hundreds?

In other words, you're essentially stating, masks are never coming off. How very gracious of you HypoFlog.

Further, I'd like you to extrapolate, being the utter genius you are, how this formula works exactly.

In California, they have to get to 2 cases per 100K per day to get to the "hundreds."
Wyoming can have 173 cases per 100K per day, and be in the "hundreds."

So to meet your ridiculous objective, each state will be different on the suffering scale but can meet Floggy's ridiculous goals. Excellent! California has to meet the stringent goal of 2 cases per 100K, but Wyoming can have 173 per 100K, but...both...will be in the hundreds....



He did? He did???? Show us all how he did. Please post links and articles that reference the miracles of magic Xiden performed to "make sure the supply was there."

Hint: It already was....but go on, make a fool of yourself.

And yes, we have a demand problem. As you yourself have noted, countless don't want to take these versions of vaccines. Is that not something the President of the United States of America should be addressing?

Show me where anyone is referring to cases per year. We’re all of ONE year into it. Who does that?

Biden set a goal of 100 million vaccines in 100 days and then changed that to 200 million. Even Dan Crenshaw is impressed. Now he’s setting a new goal of 70% with at least one shot by July 4th.

 

[IndySteel]

— NEWS —​

During Pandemic, States Controlled By Democrats Lost Double The Jobs Republican States Lost: Report​

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States where residents voted for President Joe Biden in the 2020 election actually lost far more jobs during the COVID-19 pandemic than states where residents voted for former President Donald Trump, according to a new report.
“Between February and December of last year, states that went for Biden saw the total number of people working drop an average of 6.2 percent, versus a 2.5 percent decline in those voting for the Republican, according to a DailyMail.com analysis of federal jobs data,” the U.K. paper reported. “The 13 states that saw the lowest decline in employment all lean strongly Republican, led by Alaska and Utah which actually saw employment increase by 0.7 and 0.3 percent respectively.”


States varied widely in their reaction to the pandemic. Blue states set more restrictive rules than red states, but later analysis found that there was little difference between the two strategies in outcome, in terms of containing COVID-19.
The DailyMail.com analysis analyzed U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data to suss out the change in the civilian labor force in each state between February and December of last year.