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The Coronavirus thread

SojournerSteel said:
So, basically we're talking universal, forced vaccines for everyone to participate in "society."

The rest is just a battering ram at the end of the day.

"Don't the believe the church and state, and everything they tell you" times are here.


At this point, America parallels ancient Israel in the Book of Nehemiah:

"Now therefore, our God, the great, the mighty, and the terrible God, who keepest covenant and mercy, let not all the trouble seem little before thee, that hath come upon us, on our kings, on our princes, and on our priests, and on our prophets, and on our fathers, and on all thy people, since the time of the kings of Assyria unto this day.

33 Howbeit thou art just in all that is brought upon us; for thou hast done right, but we have done wickedly:

34 Neither have our kings, our princes, our priests, nor our fathers, kept thy law, nor hearkened unto thy commandments and thy testimonies, wherewith thou didst testify against them.

35 For they have not served thee in their kingdom, and in thy great goodness that thou gavest them, and in the large and fat land which thou gavest before them, neither turned they from their wicked works.

36 Behold, we are servants this day, and for the land that thou gavest unto our fathers to eat the fruit thereof and the good thereof, behold, we are servants in it:

37 And it yieldeth much increase unto the kings whom thou hast set over us because of our sins: also they have dominion over our bodies, and over our cattle, at their pleasure, and we are in great distress."
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That's like an older version of Tibsy's now erased post from a few days back, edited for his globalist, socialist views.

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wig said:
I don't think there should be any "bailouts" as it were. I just think any type of loan or standard payment should be forgiven. If you owe $1500 on your house loan today, it goes "poof" because there's a good chance you can't work or you can't work to your full capacity because we have shut down our entire economy. You don't get the entire loan forgiven, you just get a payment 'taken off the books'. And I'm not talking deferred here. the payment is treated as though it was made, your balance is subsequently lowered as if you paid it, but you simply are not required to make any payments on any loans or utilities until the "quarantine" is lifted. After that life returns to normal.

Why exactly should the banking and utility industry continue to make their money while the rest of the economy is plunged into bankruptcy? They should eat it just as the rest of us are. And BY waiving all those payments, people maintain what money or income they have to pay for essential needs items like food and apparently black-market toilet paper.
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How about a quick rule,from POTUS, that all financial terms, rents, dues, Bill's are automatically held/stayed for an initial term of 30 days?

The Fed can support the receiving end of the stay by simply depositing like amounts of cash into those businesses to keep them afloat.

Everybody conserves cash for needs like food and as swipe.

The rest of the mess can be figured out later.


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In case you're wondering if the current administration has handled this **** like a boss...

Countries who have done a WORSE job of managing the global extinction event that is Covid-19...

China
Italy
Spain
Iran
Germany
France
S. Korea
Switzerland
Netherlands
Austria
Belgium
Norway
Sweden
Denmark
Portugal
Israel
Ireland
Finland
Iceland
Singapore


Every one of these countries (as of today) have MORE cases per 1,000,000 than the U.S. (we currently have 44 cases per 1 million people. or a "end-times" rate of .0044 percent.) Now of course, these are confirmed cases. There are undoubtedly a ton of people who have the virus that either aren't going to the hospital or who aren't showing symptoms yet.

On the other hand, whatever the number of unreported cases is, that reduces the actual "fatality / super sick" percentage that the media is pushing on us to destroy the current administration.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
I already am for vaccines for all who can have them.
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What does that mean? Are you for forcing people to take a vaccine in order to work in an office? Teach in a school? How does that square with the 4th Amendment and Castle Doctrine for example? So, your fear of a virus animates public policy for everyone at the barrel of a gun so to speak?

That would make the Bolsheviks blush from a collectivist standpoint if you ask me.

How much filthy lucre does Big Pharma, Bill Gates, and CDC make off of that? What byproducts go into the vaccines? How do those byproducts behave under the next-gen 5G high frequency bombardment we are all about to be subjected to? Wuhan, Soko, Iran, and Italy all rolled out 5G prior to the US roll out to come in 2020.

What is really going on here? See the Georgia Guidestones and Event 201 for clues.
 
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How about a quick rule,from POTUS, that all financial terms, rents, dues, Bill's are automatically held/stayed for an initial term of 30 days.
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Fine as long as no interest accrues during this deferral.
 
What is really going on here? See the Georgia Guidestones and Event 201 for clues.
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Oh, as the resident conspiracy theory nut, I could easily be talked in to researching the possibility that this entire response has been a coordinated attempt to bring down about a new world order. As I mentioned earlier, what we are doing to our economy voluntarily ultimately has the most likely long term effect of ushering in more and more socialist economic structure into our economy as well as the rest of the world.
 
Troglodyte said:
Did you read what he posted? Talk about an *******!
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So you insulted his ancestors and heritage? If indeed he did decend from the British outcasts. Insult or disagree with the person not their family. Others have been banned for that.
 
wig said:
Oh, as the resident conspiracy theory nut, I could easily be talked in to researching the possibility that this entire response has been a coordinated attempt to bring down about a new world order. As I mentioned earlier, what we are doing to our economy voluntarily ultimately has the most likely long term effect of ushering in more and more socialist economic structure into our economy as well as the rest of the world.
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The clue will be watching when the "keep your laws off my body crowd!" leads the charge for a mandatory, universal vaccine and shaming and ostracizing all who resist.

They're already shaming those not cowering in their homes with fear.

With the feminine mind, security and safety trump logic and intellectual consistency 100/100 times.
 
Confluence said:
You lack reading comprehension, still.
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No, I just don’t suddenly decide to support the exploitation of a pandemic because someone compares it to socialism vs. capitalism. There’s a lot of emergency socialism going on right now.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
you must be looking at a dead link. I can order it and have it in 1-2 days via Prime, or get it instantly on Kindle.

Paperback: 1 Used, 5 New
Hardback: 15 Used, 11 New
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Saw if referenced somewhere, probably a good read right about now!
 
Remember when John Bolton's book was going to be a big deal? Yeah, me neither.
 
"I believe these policies will save lives," Cuomo said.
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So will outlawing the automobile and motorcycles, hell outlawing bicycles, ending all recreational activities, ending all physical contact between humans, implementing in vitro requirements for all pregnancies, outlawing the sale of alcohol, etc.

Jesus Christ, the order that citizens simply stop living their lives is idiotic, IMO. The fact that a measure "saves lives" is a bullshit barometer. The question has always - ALWAYS - been, "At what cost?" People get incredible benefits from motor vehicle transportation, recreation, and physical contact. Most of us get significant benefits from moderate use of alcohol, including millions who earn a living by making, delivering and selling the product. We crave the closeness of being with our spouse and sharing intimate moments. We live for the thrill of climbing that rock, at great peril, or pushing ourselves to ride that bike further and faster than ever.

So outlawing everything "saves lives"? Big ******* deal. What is the life worth without all that makes it so desirable??
 
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So anyhow IF they have a cure readily available in a couple weeks and IF this doesn’t drag out over a month and IF as expected the death rate is low and IF the market rebounds as expected... then the Dems should just not run anyone on November... its over, possibly across the board

The Repubs are picking up seats in special elections and trump’s approval is at 55% despite all the attack ads...
 
madinsomniac said:
So anyhow IF they have a cure readily available in a couple weeks and IF this doesn’t drag out over a month and IF as expected the death rate is low and IF the market rebounds as expected... then the Dems should just not run anyone on November... its over, possibly across the board

The Repubs are picking up seats in special elections and trump’s approval is at 55% despite all the attack ads...
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https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-trump-announces-new-vaccine-treat-coronavirus/UlmcYjEZPwBxXleD74S52K/
 
And........

Off-label prescribing is a common and legal practice in medicine. This practice is justified when scientific evidence suggests the efficacy and safety of a medication for an indication for which it does not have FDA approval and when the practice is supported by expert consensus or practice guidelines.
 
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