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The Coronavirus thread

God, I wish the genius that is Joe Biden was leading the nation during these "uncertain times." Hmm, that suggests that the three prior years under Trump were certain. Huh. Anyway, Genius Joe at work here:

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Heart wrenching. Emotional. Awe inspiring. Henry V, St. Crispin's day, "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother";

Churchill, June 4, 1940 "We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!";

Kennedy inauguration, "We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win";

Biden, 2020, "Where's the crowd? Is this thing on? You know, the thing, democracy, sakes, second fiddle, third base. Did I miss Matlock?"
 
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Hold on just a damned second....ANOTHER antibody test shows that the fatality rate on CV19 is a LOT lower?

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Coronavirus antibody testing shows LA County outbreak is up to 55 times bigger than reported cases

The Covid-19 outbreak in Los Angeles County is likely far more widespread than previously thought, up to an estimated 55 times bigger than the number of confirmed cases, according to new research from the University of Southern California and the LA Department of Public Health.

USC and the health department released preliminary study results that found that an estimated 4.1% of the county's adult population has antibodies to the coronavirus, estimating that between 221,000 adults to 442,000 adults in the county have had the infection.

This new estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of Covid-19 reported to the county through early April. The number of coronavirus-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600, according to the Department of Public Health. The data, if correct, would mean that the county's fatality rate is lower than originally thought.
 
Dan Crenshaw beats Bill Maher into a bloody pulp – This is not a fair fight…

Blaming Trump become a tough task when you run into someone who has the receipts.

“Two days later he implemented a restrictive travel ban from China which he was widely criticized for,” Crenshaw said. “That same day, on January 31st, Nancy Pelosi proposed the ‘No Ban Act,’ which would be congressional limitation on what President Trump is actually able to do with the travel restriction.”

Maher pushed back on Crenshaw’s point noting that thousands of people still made it to the United States from China after the ban was implemented. “He lies about that,” Maher said.

“Let me address that,” Crenshaw responded. “The reality is…these are U.S. citizens and green card holders and passport holders being repatriated.”

“It sounds to me like you’re fully agreeing with President Trump on this when everybody else disagreed with him,” Crenshaw kept going, adding that Joe Biden was among those who roundly criticized Trump’s early steps to slow the virus’ spread. “If you’re saying that you wish that travel restriction had been more extreme, okay fine, you apparently had the foresight when nobody else did. The fact is that if Joe Biden was in charge at that moment, he’s already said he wouldn’t have done it, he criticized it at the time. Nancy Pelosi actually proposed legislation to stop it.”

Crenshaw went on to concede that government testing proceeded slower than preferable, but countered claims that Republicans were ignoring the coming crisis by pointing out that while the Trump administration was requesting supplemental funding for coronavirus, House Democrats passed a bill to ban flavored e-cigarettes instead.

“February 24th, that’s when the administration requested two and a half billion dollars from Congress to fulfill CDC, NIH, and FDA funding to combat the virus,” Crenshaw said. “Did we vote on a supplemental funding bill? No. Did we wait days to vote? No. Still didn’t vote on it. You know what we voted on later that week? Nancy Pelosi, the only thing that she would put on the floor to vote on was a bill to ban flavored tobacco.”

“By March 3rd, there was only 102 cases in the United States, and yet I am hearing criticism that we should have been locked down until weeks earlier. But do you think the American people would have accepted that with only 100 cases in the United States?” Crenshaw said. “When people make these accusations, I have to ask them a question: Is the goal to make Trump look bad or is the goal to get to the truth?”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dan Crenshaw leaves Bill Maher absolutely speechless. He patiently and calmly destroys every single lie and leftist talking point one by one. You have to watch this. <br><br>School is in session boys and girls .<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/rth8HuXE5X">pic.twitter.com/rth8HuXE5X</a></p>— OakTown ☢ Unfiltered (@hrtablaze) <a href="https://twitter.com/hrtablaze/status/1251784518345781249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
This is an epic read and describes those of us in the denier camp. Very well written.

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Suppression of Expression Obscures the Truth About the Virus
What explained the paradox of near paranoia to some inquiries but magnanimous tolerance of other absurdities? Usually, one of three explanations suffice—and often all three together.

Americans are acquainted with predictable but ultimately failed progressive efforts to suppress free expression by preemptive invective and politically correct finger-pointing.

To believe that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s accusers revealed too many contradictions, too many lacunae, too many episodes of timely amnesia, and too many unsubstantiated accusations in their testimonies was chauvinistically to attack/smear/silence all women’s voices—at least until the same sort of memory-repressed accusations focused on handsy Joe Biden.

To express skepticism that current global temperatures are uniformly rising almost entirely due to human carbon emissions, that this state of affairs poses catastrophic dangers that may end civilization as we know it, and that this emergency can only be addressed by the radical restructuring of global economies is to be rendered a denialist, a crank, a fool.

But these parameters of censorship have a logic and predictability, given their race/class/gender/environmental orthodoxy.

Shifting Pandemic Orthodoxy

What explains the current taboo on topics regarding the coronavirus?

It is now a truism that almost every influential model that has been advanced about the spread of the coronavirus was flawed. They almost all erred on the side of exaggerated morbidity. But to suggest that in public is deemed heresy.


Even when the Imperial College scarifying “2.2 million” dead in the United States was withdrawn, or when Gavin Newsom’s “25.5 million infected” by early May in California seemed hysterical, or today’s prognostications from the University of Washington modified older models that politicians used to set policy, there was more ridicule leveled at the original skeptics than at the promulgators of such myths—despite the fact that some disastrous public policies resulted from assurances that hundreds of thousands would likely die soon from the virus.

The same strange reaction met most who suggested that the virus might have reached the United States earlier than late January, or that it might already have infected far more than once thought, or that it was likely to be less lethal than assumed from the commonly used calculus to determine its toxicity.

Similarly taboo was questioning the notion that everyone who died with COVID-19 died because of it, even when the dying and the deceased were not tested for the virus and the methodology of ascertaining causes of death seemed too often reinvented or changed weekly.

We were not to question the weird formula of assessing a virus’s morbidity by dividing the number of deaths only by the actual number of those who had at any time had tested positive for an active infection. Yet nearly the entire scientific community had agreed that the real number of those infected by the virus could be 10 times or more than the misleadingly precise number of positive tests.

Nonetheless, daily referenced fatality rates were drawn from such a flawed equation. Certainly, if such a procedure were used in flu cases—of requiring only positive flu virus tests to ascertain the denominator—then the lethality to case rate of influenza might well appear as 10 percent and send the country into shock.

When some frontline physicians, or a rough sampling of patients, or preliminary studies suggested that in some pre-ventilator cases hydroxychloroquine seemed efficacious in treating the virus, even the use of a medicine prompted a weaponized debate.

Supposed pre-Enlightenment rubes were now to be corrected by the defenders of the scientific method. After all, there were all sorts of newer antivirals being used off-label around the world to treat patients in extremis, but none earned quite the opprobrium of the antimalarials, despite the latter’s tolerable side-effects having been chronicled for decades in a way not true of more expensive, new designer antiviral medicines.

More Taboo Questions

From the outset, the world noted the close proximity of a P4-level virology lab in the hills near Wuhan. Its staff was known to have studied coronaviruses similar to SARS-CoV-2.

Most in the West knew from the prior 2002-2003 SARS epidemic that the Chinese government had habitually covered up the origins and transmission of that virus.

So naturally, speculation immediately focused on the role of the nearby lab, even as the Chinese blanketed the global media with the official explanations of a natural viral birth amid the wet markets of Wuhan. We were variously told that pangolins, bats, and snakes were the petri dish culprits for the global epidemic. They may be, but then, again, the recombinant viruses from them might have escaped not from a butcher’s hook but a scientist’s vial.

Chinese government propagandists blasted any doubt of their narrative as illiberal. Its methodology was often embraced as useful by the American media. If one discussed the possibility of some role of the lab in global catastrophe, the question was almost deliberately obfuscated and recalibrated as a “conspiracy theory” accusation (the Chinese were adept in using such a loaded American expression) that the lab had made a bioweapon or that a natural virus had been let loose intentionally.

But few mainstream observers ever floated such theories. Usually, they instead questioned the safety practices of the lab—a concern echoed by U.S. embassy officials in China—and wanted assurances from China about its abilities to prevent accidental releases of a coronavirus under study.

Instead, they were stonewalled. Stories spread of data destroyed. Researchers disappeared. Official dates surrounding the origins and transmission of the virus were altered constantly.

Yet the more China in Orwellian fashion tried to modulate its own prior communications about the lab, the more American media also joined its chorus of demeaning legitimate inquiries, and the more it became clear that China was terrified of any scrutiny directed toward the top-secret facility.

After all, on January 23, in fear of the growing contagion, China forbade travel in and out of Wuhan, but not to European and American airports that, for a while, kept such routes open. When they finally closed, Americans were blasted by the Chinese (and Joe Biden) as racists for doing what Beijing had done earlier. Only the U.S. media would accept that the Chinese were not racists for allowing their own citizens, at a time of contagion, to travel abroad to the U.S. in a manner they could not fly freely at home—but yet the Americans were dubbed bigoted for allowing them to continue to do so as well for a critical week.

In contrast, far less vituperation met a series of contradictory, constantly changing, and often downright illogical declarations emanating from the best and brightest at the World Health Organization, the CDC, the FDA, NIH, and from the Surgeon General.

We were at different times told that the virus was not transmissible from human to human. Travel bans were expressions of illiberal panic not reflections of ancient scientific quarantine protocols.

The FDA’s monopoly over test kits was supposedly the best and most rapid way to ensure that millions got into the hands of doctors and hospitals.

Orthodoxy told us that masks for the general public were at first selfish, then useless, then of some value, then essential. Infectiousness came largely from touching facial orifices with fingers contaminated by surface viruses. Or was it more dangerous to breathe the contagion in as it spread from coughing, sneezing, or mere talking? And were the viruses hitchhiking on droplets or aerosolized mists?

What were we to make of ventilators? Was their availability tantamount to a litmus test of America’s ability to defeat the epidemic? Or was it that most patients on them usually never got off but delayed rather than avoided death?


The Patience or Paranoia Paradox

The list of these “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others” constant adaptations and corrections was met with public patience. A forgiving public shrugged that science is never absolute but on a constant learning curve and the domain of the most moral and learned among us—thus deserving a tolerance of error not extended to natural skeptics of other topics.

So, what explained the paradox of near paranoia to some inquiries but magnanimous tolerance of other absurdities? Usually, one of three explanations suffice—or sometimes all three together.

First, to the degree an issue involved Donald Trump, the media and political consensus were predictable. He was for the experimental use of hydroxychloroquine; therefore, the drug must be seen as analogous to early uses of mercury or arsenic. If the Chinese lab was at fault, then Trump was deemed less culpable. So the lab was not at fault.

Second, we were to worship at the altar of Lord Pessimism. The more the numerators of death increased at a rate not matched by the denominators of positives, the higher the virus’s lethality appeared, and the more the public would be willing to put up with Draconian lockdowns.

The problem with the Stanford researchers and other antibody researchers was that if they were correct, then quarantines might be loosened a bit and normality might return sooner. And so they were not correct.

As I have written earlier, the psychology of the pessimist is always win-win: when wrong, his terrifying models are still efficacious in scaring the public into doing the right thing (and thus are often deliberately exaggerated). When right, “he bravely warned us of Armageddon.”

The poor optimist is trapped in a lose-lose dilemma: if right in doubting the end of days, only the response to the pessimist made his own hopeful reservations prescient. If wrong about a return of the Black Plague, then he is a veritable murderer, in a way that the flawed pessimist’s modeling is never held culpable for destructive shutdowns and lockdowns.

Third and finally, the subtext to the entire array of virus issues soon became the November 2020 election. The exalted left-wing hopes in Robert Mueller and impeachment were crushed on the eve of the epidemic. The coronavirus was soon seen as the magic X-ray machine that finally might penetrate Trump’s lead shield and reveal to the clueless voter the diseased organs of incompetence, pathology, and narcissism beneath.

A wearied Joe Biden, exhausted from the campaign, was supposed to recuperate at home. Refreshed, he was to be courted in photo-ops by would-be diversity vice presidents. Biden would issue daily folksy fireside chat takedowns of Trump’s buffoonery, as only ol’ Joe from Scranton could.

But the more Biden rested at home, the more he appeared exhausted and enfeebled—and the more his impromptu and teleprompted lapses terrified the Democratic establishment that they had not chosen a soaring eagle to talon Trump, but an albatross now hanging around their collective neck.

As a result, a virus became the opposition candidate of sorts. The scarier COVID-19 became, the more the need to shut down the nation, the more likely the economy would tank, the more it became certain that Trump would face a lose-lose decision in late April, as his win-win critics would either damn him as a latter-day Herbert Hoover who wrecked a booming economy or some sort of odious Wall Street financier who put profit over lives.

Either way, the New York Times will soon have pictures of the dead, with captions insisting the infected died due to Trump’s premature return to normal, or committed suicide given his needlessly long lockdown that wiped out small businesses.

Lost in all this conundrum were legitimate questions of the virus’s genesis, spread, and innate nature, China’s responsibility for deceiving the world and its culpability for thousands of deaths, the chronic confusion of bureaucracies—and any sense that the coronavirus was a deadly collective enemy rather than a partisan wedge.
 
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Does everyone realize that the USD is tied to oil, and cash flows thru oil since 1971?

And that the oil market is behaving very poorly. If this oil infection spreads to the proxy for American standard of living, the USD, then this entire economic issue is going get much bigger, fast.

While most of the productive capacity of the globe sits idle fearing hobgoblins.
 
President Trump suspending immigration to the US


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252418369170501639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
President Trump suspending immigration to the US


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252418369170501639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I had a new thread for this one it deserves it's own.
 
Does everyone realize that the USD is tied to oil, and cash flows thru oil since 1971?

And that the oil market is behaving very poorly. If this oil infection spreads to the proxy for American standard of living, the USD, then this entire economic issue is going get much bigger, fast.

While most of the productive capacity of the globe sits idle fearing hobgoblins.

Meh, it's not just oil.
 
Well Georgia has an interesting list of Phase One openings. Coming this Friday:

Gyms/Fitness Centers
Bowling alleys
Body art studios
Barbers
Cosmetologists
Hair designers
Nail care artists
Estheticians
Massage therapists
Related schools to these professions

Apparently only those businesses involving close personal contact, and schools teaching vocations involving close personal contact, are opening. Plus bowling alleys.
 
Well Georgia has an interesting list of Phase One openings. Coming this Friday:

Gyms/Fitness Centers
Bowling alleys
Body art studios
Barbers
Cosmetologists
Hair designers
Nail care artists
Estheticians
Massage therapists
Related schools to these professions

Apparently only those businesses involving close personal contact, and schools teaching vocations involving close personal contact, are opening. Plus bowling alleys.

While it may seem counter intuitive seems that it's businesses where large numbers of people don't congregate close together and where social distancing and disinfection measures would be pretty easy to do.

That said no way I'm ever putting my hand into a bowling alley bowling ball again in this lifetime.
 
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President Trump suspending immigration to the US


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252418369170501639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Racist! Xenophobe!

Why doesn't he do something about this virus?

Wait, I'm so confused...
 
While it may seem counter intuitive seems that it's businesses where large numbers of people don't congregate close together and where social distancing and disinfection measures would be pretty easy to do.

That said no way I'm ever putting my hand into a bowling alley bowling ball again in this lifetime.

I wish I could bowl. Not because I want to get infected, but because that’s one thing I’m not able to do now with the plate in my wrist. It SUCKS!!!
 
I wish I could bowl. Not because I want to get infected, but because that’s one thing I’m not able to do now with the plate in my wrist. It SUCKS!!!

That's a bummer. For the past 4 years I have bowled two nights a week and it's been fun. Nice to have a place to go to drink beers and hang out with the other old fogies. Speaking of bowling with the opposite hand, the guy who runs our bowling alley and has bowled over 60 career 300 games, bowls left handed every week to give everyone else a chance lol. His average with that hand is still as good as mine lol. So it can be done.
 
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Its all good. Bowling is the one thing I haven't tried to do left-handed. I know I am too much of a klutz. I can say that I am glad I broke my wrist and got surgery when I did- I can't imagine what kind of cluster it would be to be going through all that now.
 
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