The Coronavirus thread

[Superman]

Apparently free-loading, non-contributing, asshats have a lesser search function
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I didn't have to go search though. I remember vividly when TIBOR started that thread, trying to bait members here into QAnon. Lasted what, about 3 pages?

Now the resident Liberal Communists say we started the ****

Radical playbook says to accuse your enemy of what you are doing to sow confusion.

 

[DBS1970]

Wasn’t there a more recent one?

Anyway, to answer Steeltime’s question, DBS1970 seemed to be onboard.

I never mentioned Qanon. I have never been on a Qanon forum. I pointed out the obvious cheating and how Xiden won the election via massive voter fraud. I also pointed out that the MSM particularly the legacy newspapers and broadcast networks are biased to the point of being the propaganda arm of the DNC which has gone full communist at this point. And none of that is relevant to this thread. Stop hijacking threads you socialist asshat. And while you are at it stop advocating for destroying the economy and the country because of a virus that has a .03% of killing you.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I never mentioned Qanon. I have never been on a Qanon forum. I pointed out the obvious cheating and how Xiden won the election via massive voter fraud. I also pointed out that the MSM particularly the legacy newspapers and broadcast networks are biased to the point of being the propaganda arm of the DNC which has gone full communist at this point. And none of that is relevant to this thread. Stop hijacking threads you socialist asshat. And while you are at it stop advocating for destroying the economy and the country because of a virus that has a .03% of killing you.

 

[Superman]

I never mentioned Qanon. I have never been on a Qanon forum. I pointed out the obvious cheating and how Xiden won the election via massive voter fraud. I also pointed out that the MSM particularly the legacy newspapers and broadcast networks are biased to the point of being the propaganda arm of the DNC which has gone full communist at this point. And none of that is relevant to this thread. Stop hijacking threads you socialist asshat. And while you are at it stop advocating for destroying the economy and the country because of a virus that has a .03% of killing you.

but the only gubmint you can question is that of Hungarian.

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[Booted]

I never could get the hang of that who/whom ****.

 

[Badcat]

I never could get the hang of that who/whom ****.

Simple rule, if you can replace the word with "he" or "she", use the word who. If you can replace the word with "him" or "her", use whom.

 

[Troglodyte]

No Floggy. You worked hard to establish herd immunity isn't here. The data disagrees with you. It does appear to be here, as he has said, in certain locales. Especially those states that are way ahead of others in vaccinating.

Your argument to defend this stupid salvo you sent was to persistently say "but but but but but we have a rise in cases" - the most illogical defense one could use....to use national numbers to paint a broad brush that COVID is still deadly and herd immunity is nowhere near ignore the regional and statewide differences that factually exist. For instance, states that have vaccinated more are closer to herd immunity. States that have been more "open" and people have mingled more have more natural immunity. To say "well the US has a small uptick in cases we don't have herd immunity" is utter stupidity.

Your argument was as strong as your claim was that we started a QAnon thread - when in fact TIBOR started it

Dr. Makary spoke again Flogged. You'll love this. And this time, actually...read. Do you wanna keep disagreeing with science because you're a Panic Peddler and don't want this to end? Because you are profiting off of COVID?



Clearly this is a smart, intelligent man. Read his words. See what he Tweets. See what he re-tweets.

LOL! Tim worked himself into a frenzy.

I didn’t work hard to establish anything. I’m tuned into reality and I accept it. You live in a bubble and only accept what you want to believe. You do know that Makary is a surgeon, right?

 

[deljzc]

I'm getting my first vaccine tomorrow morning. I will report what happens.

 

[Steeltime]

I never could get the hang of that who/whom ****.

Badcat is correct on the proper usage, subject or predicate, but to find out which to use simply answer the question:

Who/Whom made a stupid post about QAnon?
He [Floggy the Dumb] made a stupid post about QAnon. Subjective case so "who" is the proper pronoun.

We should give thanks to who/whom for pointing out Floggy's laughable idiocy?
We should give thanks to him [So0P] for pointing out Floggy's laughable idiocy. Objective case, so "whom" is the proper pronoun.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

LOL! Tim worked himself into a frenzy.

I didn’t work hard to establish anything. I’m tuned into reality and I accept it. You live in a bubble and only accept what you want to believe. You do know that Makary is a surgeon, right?

It's really simple Floggy. You say we aren't at or near herd immunity. The data and the professionals and the history of epidemiology state we are there in some areas, approaching it in others. You thrive on the lockdowns and are clearly a Panic Peddler. You want this to continue, so your arguments make sense in that context. That doesn't make the arguments factual however.

Go back and study the data provided, you may learn something.

By the way, the good Doctor is more than just a surgeon. Follow the science, ammmmiritte? Seems to me the man is overly qualified to offer his opinions on this subject. Of course, you think the rest of us should listen to you because you push paperwork.

Dr. Makary is a public health expert and professor of health policy & management at Johns Hopkins. He has been elected to the National Academy of Medicine and is a leading voice for physicians, writing for the Wall Street Journal and USA Today. Dr. Makary's research focuses on the health care supply chain, the scientific evaluation of new medical interventions in medicine, and public health strategies. He is a New York Times bestselling author and serves as editor-in-chief of MedPage Today. His book The Price We Pay has been described as “a must-read for every American” by Steve Forbes and a “deep dive into the real issues driving up the cost of health care” by Dr. Don Berwick.

Dr. Makary is a champion of the re-design of how people interface with the health care system. A cancer specialist, he has a strong interest in the epidemiology of cancer, public health strategies to address obesity, the burden of commodities in low-income, frail, and minority communities, and antimicrobial resistance. Dr. Makary is also a strong proponent of healthy foods and the impact of the microbiome on disease.

Dr. Makary has multiple grants to study population health, the appropriateness of medical care, drug prices, and the impact of the health care cost crisis on low-income populations. He has written extensively on the disruptors who are revolutionizing health care.

Dr. Makary was the lead author the original articles describing a surgical checklist and later served in leadership with Atul Gawande on the World Health Organization (W.H.O.) Surgery Checklist project. Makary has published more than 250 scientific articles, including articles on health care transparency, public health policy, and health reform.

 

[hamster]

Simple rule, if you can replace the word with "he" or "she", use the word who. If you can replace the word with "him" or "her", use whom.

I before E except after C, *************.

 

[Superman]

It's really simple Floggy. You say we aren't at or near herd immunity. The data and the professionals and the history of epidemiology state we are there in some areas, approaching it in others. You thrive on the lockdowns and are clearly a Panic Peddler. You want this to continue, so your arguments make sense in that context. That doesn't make the arguments factual however.

Go back and study the data provided, you may learn something.

By the way, the good Doctor is more than just a surgeon. Follow the science, ammmmiritte? Seems to me the man is overly qualified to offer his opinions on this subject. Of course, you think the rest of us should listen to you because you push paperwork.

Flog also sharpens pencils and organizes paperclips when not punching holes in paper.

 

[IndySteel]

 

[Tibs]

This is helpful.

 

[Steeltime]

Decaf, bizarre how you troll for any piece of idiocy to try and make you look smarter. Astonishing news update:

What some guy says on a cable show with less viewers than Wayne's World has zero relevance to the entire history of human existence, now and forever. The fact that you and your diseased ilk know all about weird, anonymous little groups you portray as "right wing," while the entirety of the rest of humanity does not know about such idiocy and more to the point does not care, seems to escape your feeble, wavering, gnat-like attention.

You obviously saw but now simply pretend to ignore the embarrassment heaped on Floggy, your ideological ****-holster, for claiming that conservatives on this forum know what the **** QAnon is and started a thread about that ... whatever it is, when So0p proved that the only thread ever devoted to that ... whatever was done by YOU.

So, Decaf, I will spend the next five minutes doing what I never would otherwise do and post some of the endless stupid **** from idiot liberals. I do so despite the fact that reading any thought or idea from a liberal is akin to a lecture on pathos from Goebbels. Here goes, Decaf:

Michael Moore floats conspiracy theory that Trump may be faking Covid diagnosis​

Michael Moore floats conspiracy theory that Trump may be faking Covid diagnosis

Top aide Hope Hicks, Senator Mike Lee and White House staff also infected

news.yahoo.com

I’ve got a cellphone full of texts from people who aren’t sure whether to believe Trump actually has covid. “He lies so much,” one friend just texted. “Is he just doing this to get out of the debates?” others are texting. - Idiot Moron Racist [Lacking] Joy Reid, who makes these claims on a ******* cable news network, Decaf

Left wing conspiracy theories go mainstream, all others banned – going down the rabbit hole

With just a few weeks to go before the 2020 presidential elections, politics are getting thicker than mud. The heavily politicized Coronavirus “pandemic” keeps dominating the news cycle – continuing lockdowns and mask mandates, with its subsequent devastating economic realities. Then came the...

altleft.news

Seventy-eight percent of Democrats, according to an August 2018 Gallup poll, believed not only that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election but also that this interference put Trump in office.

Right-Wing Conspiracy 'Insane' -- Left-Wing Conspiracy Theories, Not So Much | RealClearPolitics

Democrats and much of the Republican-hating media call the Republicans' election challenge dead on arrival and say the effort hurt Republicans in Georgia. If...

www.realclearpolitics.com

"I'm convinced AIDS is a government-engineered disease. They got one thing wrong, they never realized it couldn't just be contained to the groups it was intended to wipe out. So, now it's a national priority. Exactly like drugs became when they escaped the urban centers into white suburbia." - Spike Lee, well-known liberal loon

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1992/12/19/who-will-speak-the-truth-to-spike-lee-frivolous-claims-of-genocide-divide-people-and-trivialize-evil/69f7726c-f224-411f-b8c0-e0329630749c/

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., falsely blames President Ronald Reagan’s CIA for playing a major role in the urban crack-cocaine epidemic. Waters even wrote a foreword for a book called “Dark Alliance,” that made this sensational claim.

Larry Elder: Right-Wing Conspiracy ‘Insane’ — Left-Wing Conspiracy Theories, Not So Much - Black Community News

Democrats and much of the Republican-hating media call the Republicans' election challenge dead on a

blackcommunitynews.com

Dan Rather alleged falsely during the 2004 U.S. presidential election that then-President George W. Bush had gone "AWOL" for much of his tenure in the National Guard. Rather's supposed "bombshell" story, for which he lost his job at CBS, was based entirely on forged documents.

Disgraced fake newsman Dan Rather gets journalism awards named in his honor

No one does more harm to journalism than people in journalism.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

On Sunday, 60 Minutes promoted a loony left-wing conspiracy theory alleging Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, rewarded a local grocery chain’s political contributions with an exclusive deal to distribute coronavirus vaccines.

This narrative, born in left-wing fever swamps and now elevated by CBS, is not just misleading or somewhat dishonest but a deliberate, outright lie.

And don't take my word for it. Even Florida Democrats are saying as much.

“Campaign finance reports obtained by 60 Minutes show that weeks before Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis announced a partnership with Publix grocery stores to distribute the vaccine in its pharmacies, Publix donated $100,000 to his PAC,” 60 Minutes reported this weekend. “I said this before and I’ll say it again,” said Jared Moskowitz, a three-term Democratic state legislator who has worked in the past for former Vice President Al Gore, former Sen. Joe Lieberman, and former President Barack Obama. “Publix was recommended by FLSERT [State Emergency Response Team] and HealthyFla [Florida Department of Health] as the other pharmacies were not ready to start. Period! Full Stop!”

<i>60 Minutes</i> airs maybe its worst political hit job in 17 years

CBS News this weekend aired what may be the most egregious political hit job since Dan Rather went on-air with forgeries of former President George W. Bush's National Guard service record.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Huh ... look at that, Decaf. You cite tidbits from anonymous **** that nobody ever heard of, spouting conspiracy theories. I cite FAMOUS ACTORS, DIRECTORS, POLITICIANS AND NEWS SOURCES spewing left-wing garbage. So thanks for the heads-up, Decaf.

Oh, and by the by, YOU are the first-hand propagator of conspiracy theories about Trump being a plant by the Russian mob, so the next time you feel giddy about recounting some tale from a nothing source and proffering it as proof that conservatives are nut-job conspiracy theorists, take a look in the mirror.

And hurry up with my order, Decaf.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Decaf, bizarre how you troll for any piece of idiocy to try and make you look smarter. Astonishing news update:

What some guy says on a cable show with less viewers than Wayne's World has zero relevance to the entire history of human existence, now and forever. The fact that you and your diseased ilk know all about weird, anonymous little groups you portray as "right wing," while the entirety of the rest of humanity does not know about such idiocy and more to the point does not care, seems to escape your feeble, wavering, gnat-like attention.

You obviously saw but now simply pretend to ignore the embarrassment heaped on Floggy, your ideological ****-holster, for claiming that conservatives on this forum know what the **** QAnon is and started a thread about that ... whatever it is, when So0p proved that the only thread ever devoted to that ... whatever was done by YOU.

So, Decaf, I will spend the next five minutes doing what I never would otherwise do and post some of the endless stupid **** from idiot liberals. I do so despite the fact that reading any thought or idea from a liberal is akin to a lecture on pathos from Goebbels. Here goes, Decaf:

Michael Moore floats conspiracy theory that Trump may be faking Covid diagnosis

Top aide Hope Hicks, Senator Mike Lee and White House staff also infected

news.yahoo.com

Left wing conspiracy theories go mainstream, all others banned – going down the rabbit hole

With just a few weeks to go before the 2020 presidential elections, politics are getting thicker than mud. The heavily politicized Coronavirus “pandemic” keeps dominating the news cycle – continuing lockdowns and mask mandates, with its subsequent devastating economic realities. Then came the...

altleft.news

Right-Wing Conspiracy 'Insane' -- Left-Wing Conspiracy Theories, Not So Much | RealClearPolitics

Democrats and much of the Republican-hating media call the Republicans' election challenge dead on arrival and say the effort hurt Republicans in Georgia. If...

www.realclearpolitics.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1992/12/19/who-will-speak-the-truth-to-spike-lee-frivolous-claims-of-genocide-divide-people-and-trivialize-evil/69f7726c-f224-411f-b8c0-e0329630749c/

Larry Elder: Right-Wing Conspiracy ‘Insane’ — Left-Wing Conspiracy Theories, Not So Much - Black Community News

Democrats and much of the Republican-hating media call the Republicans' election challenge dead on a

blackcommunitynews.com

Disgraced fake newsman Dan Rather gets journalism awards named in his honor

No one does more harm to journalism than people in journalism.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

<i>60 Minutes</i> airs maybe its worst political hit job in 17 years

CBS News this weekend aired what may be the most egregious political hit job since Dan Rather went on-air with forgeries of former President George W. Bush's National Guard service record.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Huh ... look at that, Decaf. You cite tidbits from anonymous **** that nobody ever heard of, spouting conspiracy theories. I cite FAMOUS ACTORS, DIRECTORS, POLITICIANS AND NEWS SOURCES spewing left-wing garbage. So thanks for the heads-up, Decaf.

Oh, and by the by, YOU are the first-hand propagator of conspiracy theories about Trump being a plant by the Russian mob, so the next time you feel giddy about recounting some tale from a nothing source and proffering it as proof that conservatives are nut-job conspiracy theorists, take a look in the mirror.

And hurry up with my order, Decaf.

Daaayyyyummmmmmmmm that hurt just to watch

 

[IndySteel]

Nice to see Steeltime break out Lucille again.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Nice to see Steeltime break out Lucille again.

 

[SteelChip]

My thoughts explained .............

 

[Badcat]

Decaf, bizarre how you troll for any piece of idiocy to try and make you look smarter. Astonishing news update:

What some guy says on a cable show with less viewers than Wayne's World has zero relevance to the entire history of human existence, now and forever. The fact that you and your diseased ilk know all about weird, anonymous little groups you portray as "right wing," while the entirety of the rest of humanity does not know about such idiocy and more to the point does not care, seems to escape your feeble, wavering, gnat-like attention.

You obviously saw but now simply pretend to ignore the embarrassment heaped on Floggy, your ideological ****-holster, for claiming that conservatives on this forum know what the **** QAnon is and started a thread about that ... whatever it is, when So0p proved that the only thread ever devoted to that ... whatever was done by YOU.

So, Decaf, I will spend the next five minutes doing what I never would otherwise do and post some of the endless stupid **** from idiot liberals. I do so despite the fact that reading any thought or idea from a liberal is akin to a lecture on pathos from Goebbels. Here goes, Decaf:

Michael Moore floats conspiracy theory that Trump may be faking Covid diagnosis

Top aide Hope Hicks, Senator Mike Lee and White House staff also infected

news.yahoo.com

Left wing conspiracy theories go mainstream, all others banned – going down the rabbit hole

With just a few weeks to go before the 2020 presidential elections, politics are getting thicker than mud. The heavily politicized Coronavirus “pandemic” keeps dominating the news cycle – continuing lockdowns and mask mandates, with its subsequent devastating economic realities. Then came the...

altleft.news

Right-Wing Conspiracy 'Insane' -- Left-Wing Conspiracy Theories, Not So Much | RealClearPolitics

Democrats and much of the Republican-hating media call the Republicans' election challenge dead on arrival and say the effort hurt Republicans in Georgia. If...

www.realclearpolitics.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1992/12/19/who-will-speak-the-truth-to-spike-lee-frivolous-claims-of-genocide-divide-people-and-trivialize-evil/69f7726c-f224-411f-b8c0-e0329630749c/

Larry Elder: Right-Wing Conspiracy ‘Insane’ — Left-Wing Conspiracy Theories, Not So Much - Black Community News

Democrats and much of the Republican-hating media call the Republicans' election challenge dead on a

blackcommunitynews.com

Disgraced fake newsman Dan Rather gets journalism awards named in his honor

No one does more harm to journalism than people in journalism.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

<i>60 Minutes</i> airs maybe its worst political hit job in 17 years

CBS News this weekend aired what may be the most egregious political hit job since Dan Rather went on-air with forgeries of former President George W. Bush's National Guard service record.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Huh ... look at that, Decaf. You cite tidbits from anonymous **** that nobody ever heard of, spouting conspiracy theories. I cite FAMOUS ACTORS, DIRECTORS, POLITICIANS AND NEWS SOURCES spewing left-wing garbage. So thanks for the heads-up, Decaf.

Oh, and by the by, YOU are the first-hand propagator of conspiracy theories about Trump being a plant by the Russian mob, so the next time you feel giddy about recounting some tale from a nothing source and proffering it as proof that conservatives are nut-job conspiracy theorists, take a look in the mirror.

And hurry up with my order, Decaf.

 

[Troglodyte]

It's really simple Floggy. You say we aren't at or near herd immunity. The data and the professionals and the history of epidemiology state we are there in some areas, approaching it in others. You thrive on the lockdowns and are clearly a Panic Peddler. You want this to continue, so your arguments make sense in that context. That doesn't make the arguments factual however.

Go back and study the data provided, you may learn something.

By the way, the good Doctor is more than just a surgeon. Follow the science, ammmmiritte? Seems to me the man is overly qualified to offer his opinions on this subject. Of course, you think the rest of us should listen to you because you push paperwork.

You forgot to add question marks again. Specifically after “data”, as it’s not data, it’s estimates, assumptions, extrapolation and conjecture. Just because Alaska didn’t have any new deaths, doesn’t mean Michigan (or the country in general) is at or near herd immunity.

Fauci and Walensky are basing their concerns and pleas based on data, like new cases. An increase of 20% in the 14 day average is not at all consistent with resistance and herd immunity.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You forgot to add question marks again. Specifically after “data”, as it’s not data, it’s estimates, assumptions, extrapolation and conjecture. Just because Alaska didn’t have any new deaths, doesn’t mean Michigan (or the country in general) is at or near herd immunity.

Fauci and Walensky are basing their concerns and pleas based on data, like new cases. An increase of 20% in the 14 day average is not at all consistent with resistance and herd immunity.

So now you're switching away from "but he's just a surgeon" to making it a data argument. Look squirrel!!!

As I have posted, as you have not bothered to read....the Good Doctor has said we are at herd immunity in some areas like Alaska (because they have killed it with vaccines) and not so much in others. Lockdowns, vaccination rates, locale all affect how each state will rebound. You know, kind of like how it hit New York and New Jersey and Seattle first and took a LONG time to get other places???

Let's just focus on that original article and do an elementary school test. Extrapolated from the article and previously posted:

• “About 1 in 600 Americans has died of Covid-19, which translates to a population fatality rate of about 0.15%. The Covid-19 infection fatality rate is about 0.23%.” By that count...two-thirds of the country already had the virus; the survival rate is 90+ percent
• With natural immunity, plus vaccinations soaring past 100 million by now, his estimate of herd immunity isn’t nuts.
• He cites an unpublished Israeli study by the nation’s ministry of health that showed just one dose of the Pfizer vaccine renders the subject virtually “bulletproof” from COVID after four weeks.
• Anthony Fauci has been saying that the country needs to vaccinate 70% to 85% of the population to reach herd immunity from Covid-19. But he inexplicably ignores natural immunity. If you account for previous infections, herd immunity is likely close at hand.
• Data from the California Department of Public Health, released earlier this month, show that while only 8.7% of the state’s population has ever tested positive for Covid-19, at least 38.5% of the population has antibodies against the novel coronavirus. Those numbers are from Jan. 30 to Feb. 20. Adjusting for cases between now and then, and accounting for the amount of time it takes for the body to make antibodies, we can estimate that as many as half of Californians have natural immunity today.
• The same report found that 45% of people in Los Angeles had Covid-19 antibodies. Again, the number can only be higher today.
• Between “half and two-thirds of our population has antibodies in it now,” due to Covid exposure or vaccination, Mayor Eric Garcetti said Sunday on “Face the Nation.”
• That would explain why cases in Los Angeles are down 95% in the past 11 weeks and the positivity rate among those tested is now 1.7%.

Please, for the audience, from the list above, cite what is data and what is an estimate.

Finally, you're seeming to indicate that Fauci et al make no estimates based upon data (what the Good Doctor does above). Please provide evidence Fauci does NOT provide estimates that are based on data.....

This will be good

One other question Floggy. Do you...you personally...believe in natural immunity? Your leaders you follow so devoutly have told you what to think on this. I'm curious your answer.

 

[Troglodyte]

Yep.



330Million Americans. 1,016 cases of the flu. Because of masking and lockdowns.

I'm not shocked at all you buy this. A 98.44% decrease in a virus we cannot ever get rid of that strikes the world annually because it mutates suddenly just disappears. None of this has anything at all to do with reporting. Nope.

There have been 30,871,000 Covid cases. You’re claiming that 65,000 or so should have been reported as flu cases. Fine, so there have really only been 30,806,000 Covid cases. What could possibly be your point???

 

[Superman]

Tibs may not slink back into this thread after Steeltime put a foot in his ***. again.

 

[Tibs]

Tibs may not slink back into this thread after Steeltime put a foot in his ***. again.

What a bunch of clowns you are. Visiting this board is like taking a trip down memory lane, back to junior ******* high.

No wonder you all fell so hard for a failed casino owner/reality tv show President. He had you eating out of his hand. LOL.