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Unbiased America

tSponsodo1rheed4h ·

ANOTHER CALIFORNIA COUNTY REVEALS ITS PANDEMIC DEATH COUNT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER-INFLATED; EXPERT SAYS CDC MAY SOON ASK FOR NATIONWIDE RECOUNT
by Kevin Ryan
Last month, California’s Alameda County, the nation’s 20th most populous county, revealed that its pandemic death count had been inflated by 34%.
Now another, even larger county says its total was also significantly over-inflated.
Santa Clara County, home to nearly 2 million people including the city of San Jose, says it recently reviewed each fatality to eliminate those who tested positive for the virus but didn’t necessarily die from it.
It found that the number of deaths it had been reporting—2,201—was 30% higher than actual deaths from the virus: 1,696.
Which means as many as 505 deaths in the county had been wrongly attributed to the virus.
University of California San Francisco Infectious Disease Professor Dr. Monica Gandhi says she believes the CDC may soon ask all counties to examine and revise their totals.
“It is important to go back and do this accounting,” to help officials figure out the true impact of the virus, she said.
Dr. Gandhi says that in the midst of the pandemic “people were sort of putting down that cause of death,” but now it’s time to see if the virus “was actually the cause of death.”
t’s true that if we did this across the nation, it would bring our death rate lower. A downside of that, could be that people will say, ‘Well, it wasn’t as serious as you said.'” But Dr. Gandhi says the upside would be an increase in transparency.
If, nationally, deaths have been over-inflated at a similar rate as they were in Santa Clara and Alameda counties, the national toll could be nearly 150,000 deaths lower than the current count. The U.S. would also no longer have the highest number of fatalities, and would fall to 37th in per capita deaths.
But UCSF epidemiologist Dr. George Rutherford says a drop in numbers shouldn’t change our understanding of how deadly the pandemic has been, and points out that there may also be a significant number of deaths that were caused by the virus but were not included in the official death toll.
 

Unbiased America

tSponsodo1rheed4h ·

ANOTHER CALIFORNIA COUNTY REVEALS ITS PANDEMIC DEATH COUNT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER-INFLATED; EXPERT SAYS CDC MAY SOON ASK FOR NATIONWIDE RECOUNT
by Kevin Ryan
Last month, California’s Alameda County, the nation’s 20th most populous county, revealed that its pandemic death count had been inflated by 34%.
Now another, even larger county says its total was also significantly over-inflated.
Santa Clara County, home to nearly 2 million people including the city of San Jose, says it recently reviewed each fatality to eliminate those who tested positive for the virus but didn’t necessarily die from it.
It found that the number of deaths it had been reporting—2,201—was 30% higher than actual deaths from the virus: 1,696.
Which means as many as 505 deaths in the county had been wrongly attributed to the virus.
University of California San Francisco Infectious Disease Professor Dr. Monica Gandhi says she believes the CDC may soon ask all counties to examine and revise their totals.
“It is important to go back and do this accounting,” to help officials figure out the true impact of the virus, she said.
Dr. Gandhi says that in the midst of the pandemic “people were sort of putting down that cause of death,” but now it’s time to see if the virus “was actually the cause of death.”
t’s true that if we did this across the nation, it would bring our death rate lower. A downside of that, could be that people will say, ‘Well, it wasn’t as serious as you said.'” But Dr. Gandhi says the upside would be an increase in transparency.
If, nationally, deaths have been over-inflated at a similar rate as they were in Santa Clara and Alameda counties, the national toll could be nearly 150,000 deaths lower than the current count. The U.S. would also no longer have the highest number of fatalities, and would fall to 37th in per capita deaths.
But UCSF epidemiologist Dr. George Rutherford says a drop in numbers shouldn’t change our understanding of how deadly the pandemic has been, and points out that there may also be a significant number of deaths that were caused by the virus but were not included in the official death toll.
Recounts are racist.
 

Unbiased America

tSponsodo1rheed4h ·

ANOTHER CALIFORNIA COUNTY REVEALS ITS PANDEMIC DEATH COUNT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER-INFLATED; EXPERT SAYS CDC MAY SOON ASK FOR NATIONWIDE RECOUNT
by Kevin Ryan
Last month, California’s Alameda County, the nation’s 20th most populous county, revealed that its pandemic death count had been inflated by 34%.
Now another, even larger county says its total was also significantly over-inflated.
Santa Clara County, home to nearly 2 million people including the city of San Jose, says it recently reviewed each fatality to eliminate those who tested positive for the virus but didn’t necessarily die from it.
It found that the number of deaths it had been reporting—2,201—was 30% higher than actual deaths from the virus: 1,696.
Which means as many as 505 deaths in the county had been wrongly attributed to the virus.
University of California San Francisco Infectious Disease Professor Dr. Monica Gandhi says she believes the CDC may soon ask all counties to examine and revise their totals.
“It is important to go back and do this accounting,” to help officials figure out the true impact of the virus, she said.
Dr. Gandhi says that in the midst of the pandemic “people were sort of putting down that cause of death,” but now it’s time to see if the virus “was actually the cause of death.”
t’s true that if we did this across the nation, it would bring our death rate lower. A downside of that, could be that people will say, ‘Well, it wasn’t as serious as you said.'” But Dr. Gandhi says the upside would be an increase in transparency.
If, nationally, deaths have been over-inflated at a similar rate as they were in Santa Clara and Alameda counties, the national toll could be nearly 150,000 deaths lower than the current count. The U.S. would also no longer have the highest number of fatalities, and would fall to 37th in per capita deaths.
But UCSF epidemiologist Dr. George Rutherford says a drop in numbers shouldn’t change our understanding of how deadly the pandemic has been, and points out that there may also be a significant number of deaths that were caused by the virus but were not included in the official death toll.
Does that mean that they need to pay back the Federal government who incentivized the notation of Covid-19 on a death certificate? Wouldn't that mean that doctors would need to be prosecuted for fraud and falsifying medical records? Fine, Lets conduct an audit but lets also define the outcomes of those audits. People had mental breakdowns, people died alone, businesses failed and livelihoods destroyed. There needs to be consequences for this manufactured fear.
 
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Moderna has given out the first doses of an mRNA-based influenza vaccine to participants in an early-phase clinical trial, the company announced Wednesday.

Moderna ultimately plans to test the vaccine on about 180 people in the Phase 1/2 randomized, stratified, observer-blind trial. The trial will look at safety, different doses, and immune responses.
 

Unbiased America

ANOTHER CALIFORNIA COUNTY REVEALS ITS PANDEMIC DEATH COUNT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER-INFLATED; EXPERT SAYS CDC MAY SOON ASK FOR NATIONWIDE RECOUNT
by Kevin Ryan
Last month, California’s Alameda County, the nation’s 20th most populous county, revealed that its pandemic death count had been inflated by 34%.
Now another, even larger county says its total was also significantly over-inflated. Santa Clara County, home to nearly 2 million people including the city of San Jose, says it recently reviewed each fatality to eliminate those who tested positive for the virus but didn’t necessarily die from it. It found that the number of deaths it had been reporting—2,201—was 30% higher than actual deaths from the virus: 1,696.

A lot of us knew this was happening, based on two incentives: funding by the Fed for Chinese flu encouraging overreporting, the overt misuse of the damage caused by the Chinese flu to hurt ideological enemies, mainly Trump. Money and revenge are incredible motivators.

So far, the two Counties which have examined the issue found 34% and 30% overreporting of deaths by the Chinese flu. If we take the lower number - 30% - and apply that to the nation's total, we see that as many as 182,000 deaths have been falsely attributed to the Chinese flu for economic and political reasons. Now that Beijing Joe is busy licking ice cream, I mean is "President," the public officials can correct the false numbers and lookee there, they are doing just that.

A quick overview of the "right wing conspiracy theories" as they relate to the Chinese flu:
  • The Chinese flu came from a Chinese lab.
  • Lefty response: "Gahh, not true, conspiracy theory!"
  • Today: The Chinese flu came from a Chinese lab.
  • Public officials are greatly overreporting death totals for money and politics.
  • Lefty response: "Gahh, not true, conspiracy theory!"
  • Today: Public officials greatly overreported death totals for money and politics.
  • Liberal politicians did not handle the Chinese flu nearly as well as the bootlickers (media) claim.
  • Lefty response: "Gahh, not true, conspiracy theory!"
  • Today: Leftist governors literally killed people with their abusive orders, red states did MUCH better in responding to the Chinese flu.
  • Masks and mass lockdowns don't work, have devastating consequences.
  • Lefty response: "Gahh, not true, conspiracy theory!"
  • Today: Evidence proves that masks don't work, mass lockdowns devastated the economy and the least vulnerable for no reason.
  • The vaccines are not needed for those with natural immunities, just not needed for those under 21 years old.
  • Lefty response: "Gahh, not true, conspiracy theory!"
  • Today: Vaccines not needed for those with natural immunity, not needed for young people, actually are harming young people.
 
What curve balls? I’ve refuted your nonsense by pointing out its flawed assumptions over and over and over.

For the 14th time HypoFlog, these are not assumptions. These are Government-provided facts:

35 Million have had the virus (confirmed via testing). Naturally immune.
4.6x that number have had the virus per the CDC. They are naturally immune.
158Million Americans have had the vaccine. They are vaccine immune.

You are denying facts.

That makes you an ideologue.
 
For the 14th time HypoFlog, these are not assumptions. These are Government-provided facts:

35 Million have had the virus (confirmed via testing). Naturally immune.
4.6x that number have had the virus per the CDC. They are naturally immune.
158Million Americans have had the vaccine. They are vaccine immune.

You are denying facts.

That makes you an ideologue.
No, nobody knows how many are mutually inclusive of the natural antibodies group and vaccine antibodies group. You have to make assumptions. Assumptions do not equal facts.

Furthermore, your figures and math continue to be wrong. The CDC ESTIMATE is 4.13x NOT 4.6x. AND it’s the TOTAL number that have had the virus, NOT an additional amount over the confirmed cases. So, it’s 35 million x 4.13 = 145 million, NOT 35 + (35 x 4.6) = 196 million.

You’re welcome.
 
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No, nobody knows how many are mutually inclusive of the natural antibodies group and vaccine antibodies group. You have to make assumptions. Assumptions do not equal facts.

Furthermore, your figures and math continue to be wrong. The CDC ESTIMATE is 4.13x NOT 4.6x. AND it’s the TOTAL number that have had the virus, NOT an additional amount over the confirmed cases. So, it’s 35 million x 4.13 = 145 million, NOT 35 + (35 x 4.6) = 196 million.

You’re welcome.

We can continue to hash through what the correct numbers are. I was incorrectly quoting 4.6 after originally quoting 4.3, which is the correct number, and you are correct it is 1 in 4.3 not 4.3x. On that point I'll concede.

What you haven't bothered to research is the study that the CDC links as THE BASIS for their own estimates we are hashing over.

The 1 in 4.3 number comes from here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html

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Notice the dates. They stopped these estimates in March of this year. That's omitting all of April, May, June and part of July. At that point, they estimated 114.6Million total infections.

We know there have been roughly 35Million cases, so using the 4.13 number we get to 145Million Americans immune naturally from having COVID...USING THE CDC estimate. 44% of the population. Not including the vaccines.

Now go back to their article. The CDC specifically states that they used this scientific study as the basis for their calculations:
To better reflect the burden of COVID-19 – the full impact of the disease — CDC provides estimates of COVID-19 infections, symptomatic illnesses, and hospitalizations using a statistical model to adjust for cases that national surveillance networks are unable to capture for a number of reasons. These estimates and the methodology used to calculate them are published in Clinical Infectious Diseases and available onlineexternal icon. These estimates will be updated periodically.
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/72/12/e1010/6000389 (published back in November).

But the medical researchers in that article used COMPLETELY DIFFERENT factors:

We estimated that through the end of September, 1 of every 2.5 (95% uncertainty interval [UI]: 2.0–3.1) hospitalized infections and 1 of every 7.1 (95% UI: 5.8–9.0) nonhospitalized illnesses may have been nationally reported.

Why did the CDC use a factor of 4.3 when supposedly they based their published estimations off of this exact study which concluded the number was 7.1? Hmmmm.

Using the 7.1 number: 35M infections x 7.1 = 248.5M Americans should have natural immunity to COVID.

Slice it however you wish:
4.3 Factor: 145Million naturally immune Americans
7.1 Factor: 249Million naturally immune Americans

Take the 158Million Americans vaccinated. Just assume 50% of those people that got the vax haven't had COVID - no one knows what % has:

4.3 Factor: 145Million naturally immune Americans + 75M vaccinations = 220M protected (66% of the population)
7.1 Factor: 249Million naturally immune Americans + 75M vaccinations = 324M protected (98% of the population)

Also, remember: "Data from the California Department of Public Health, released earlier this month, show that while only 8.7% of the state’s population has ever tested positive for Covid-19, at least 38.5% of the population has antibodies against the novel coronavirus." That's a factor of 4.42.

Regardless, there is a reason we are trending and have been trending well below the March 2020 numbers for over a month now and that's because the majority of Americans are protected. It's certainly way more than half of the USA.

Your side continues to ignore natural immunity. I'd say I don't know why, but we know why. It's clearly as important as, if not more important than being vaccinated.

This **** is over. Deaths have dropped off a cliff and are a statistical anomaly.
 
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Your side continues to ignore natural immunity. I'd say I don't know why, but we know why. It's clearly as important as, if not more important than being vaccinated.

This **** is over. Deaths have dropped off a cliff and are a statistical anomaly.

This is a good news/bad news scenario for the Ice Cream Potato. The good news: Chinese flu has dropped to the 7th most common cause of mortality in the United States, a big deal for people like him in an at-risk group.

The bad news is that Alzheimer kills more people than the Chinese flu, terrible news for somebody in an at-risk group like the Ice Cream Potato.
 
This is a good news/bad news scenario for the Ice Cream Potato. The good news: Chinese flu has dropped to the 7th most common cause of mortality in the United States, a big deal for people like him in an at-risk group.

The bad news is that Alzheimer kills more people than the Chinese flu, terrible news for somebody in an at-risk group like the Ice Cream Potato.
I truly think they want this to drag on for years. It’s their hook into so many people for control. Do this, get this, take that, don’t work, ….etc. why follow the land of the law when we can institute “emergency” acts to control whatever they want.
 
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The CDC ESTIMATE is 4.13x NOT 4.6x.
I am finding the CDC less credible on a daily basis. Wash DC has become so partisan,it has infected the very institutions that we count on to protect us. The Wuhan lab leak a prime example.They are in collusion with big tech to censor anything that doesn't tow the party line. Same with Ivermecton.

I don't trust anything coming out of the CDC. Evidently, Dr Birx agrees with me.
 
I truly think they want this to drag on for years. It’s their hook into so many people for control. Do this, get this, take that, don’t work, ….etc. why follow the land of the law when we can institute “emergency” acts to control whatever they want.

It's not even a question at this point. You see it here with Flogged and Tibs. They LOVE this virus, what we have been through, and the control it gives the Government. Twisted as **** if you ask me, but we can no longer deny this large % of the population exists. The media has brainwashed legions into "loving" Covid and lockdowns in a sick, upside-down way.
 
It's not even a question at this point. You see it here with Flogged and Tibs. They LOVE this virus, what we have been through, and the control it gives the Government. Twisted as **** if you ask me, but we can no longer deny this large % of the population exists. The media has brainwashed legions into "loving" Covid and lockdowns in a sick, upside-down way.

And never forget:

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It looks like that isn't from our completely transparent and devoid of corruption CDC though, so, you know, maybe wait for Media Matters or XiNN to weigh in.
 
And never forget:

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It looks like that isn't from our completely transparent and devoid of corruption CDC though, so, you know, maybe wait for Media Matters or XiNN to weigh in.

So what you're saying is that if you are under 80, the flu is more deadly.

We destroyed this nation and locked down the world to protect those over 80, harming everyone...instead of just protecting those over 80.
 
So what you're saying is that if you are under 80, the flu is more deadly.

I'm not sure how all-encompassing of the world's population or current that is, but it sure looks like it.

I am sure FloggedbyFauci™ will stop by to set the record straight though.
 
We are epically stunned by this revelation

 
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