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The Coronavirus thread

The noose is tightening. The walls are closing in. We are at a tipping point.



Any day now. Any. Day.

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Funny how all the BLM & Antifa protests were magically immune though.
 
Damn, if only there was a way to mitigate this. 🤔 Praying for the good people of Florida.

"In fact, just four states accounted for more than 40% of all cases in the past week with one in five of all cases occurring in Florida alone."

"COVID infection rates are up 257% in Florida over the last 14 days."

"The state is reporting daily cases close to four times the national average...the second-highest number in the country. The state’s latest covid-19 death rate is almost double the national figure."
 
Paul Krugman in his article today, which wasn’t about Covid but about the urban hellhole myth, alluded to the fact that San Francisco and South Dakota have about the same population but that South Dakota had four times as many Covid deaths.
 



Funny how all the BLM & Antifa protests were magically immune though.



We support communism now, comrade.

The virus doesn't harm good soldiers of the party. This is the narrative we will take always.

So when is covid-20 coming? I'm sure they have some other variants cooked up in the ole Chinese bioweapons lab.

Something that could target certain bloodlines and nationalities bound by distinctive code. That'd be swell.
 
Paul Krugman in his article today, which wasn’t about Covid but about the urban hellhole myth, alluded to the fact that San Francisco and South Dakota have about the same population but that South Dakota had four times as many Covid deaths.

HAD. Operative word.

South Dakota today. All of the white counties - literally no cases. The Yellow are reporting 10 or fewer cases a day.

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California, as of today - San Francisco/Bay area still suffering:

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What is generally referred to as San Francisco comprises these counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Napa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Solano and Sonoma.

Alameda - 1,270 deaths
Contra Costa - 824 deaths
Marin - 234 deaths
Napa - 83 deaths
San Francisco - 560
San Mateo - 584
Santa Clara - 2,097
Solano - 263
Sonoma - 326

San Francisco Bay Area = 6,241 deaths TOTAL; South Dakota has had 2,040 deaths. 300% higher.

Now if Krugman is just talking about the city of San Francisco, his argument is a stupid argument. SF is a city center. People still commuted into and out of the city to go to work. Like D.C. or other urban cities, they are centers for work, and their work populations are FAR GREATER than their residents, meaning during the day the #s of those in the city intermingling is far greater than at night. Those people leave and go home...to the surrounding counties...where their cases if they get them will be logged.

South Dakota, THE STATE - does't really have this issue outside of Sioux Falls, a truly booming metro center LOL.

To compare the two is so stupid while OMITTING the surrounding counties is dangerous misinformation the White House should asking be censored.
 
HAD. Operative word.

South Dakota today. All of the white counties - literally no cases. The Yellow are reporting 10 or fewer cases a day.

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California, as of today - San Francisco/Bay area still suffering:

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What is generally referred to as San Francisco comprises these counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Napa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Solano and Sonoma.

Alameda - 1,270 deaths
Contra Costa - 824 deaths
Marin - 234 deaths
Napa - 83 deaths
San Francisco - 560
San Mateo - 584
Santa Clara - 2,097
Solano - 263
Sonoma - 326

San Francisco Bay Area = 6,241 deaths TOTAL; South Dakota has had 2,040 deaths. 300% higher.

Now if Krugman is just talking about the city of San Francisco, his argument is a stupid argument. SF is a city center. People still commuted into and out of the city to go to work. Like D.C. or other urban cities, they are centers for work, and their work populations are FAR GREATER than their residents, meaning during the day the #s of those in the city intermingling is far greater than at night. Those people leave and go home...to the surrounding counties...where their cases if they get them will be logged.

South Dakota, THE STATE - does't really have this issue outside of Sioux Falls, a truly booming metro center LOL.

To compare the two is so stupid while OMITTING the surrounding counties is dangerous misinformation the White House should asking be censored.
JFC, you never think anything through, you just start spinning. All that research and all you had to do is simply figure out which one has roughly the SAME POPULATION as South Dakota (pop. 865k) as Krugman stated. It’s The City of San Francisco (pop. 875k). The San Fran Metro has a population of 4.7 million. So your attempted spin is pointless.

Using YOUR DATA, 2,040/560=3.64, like Krugman said.
 
Damn, if only there was a way to mitigate this. 🤔 Praying for the good people of Florida.

"In fact, just four states accounted for more than 40% of all cases in the past week with one in five of all cases occurring in Florida alone."

"COVID infection rates are up 257% in Florida over the last 14 days."

"The state is reporting daily cases close to four times the national average...the second-highest number in the country. The state’s latest covid-19 death rate is almost double the national figure."
linky linky?


that link contradicts your misinformation
 
JFC, you never think anything through, you just start spinning. All that research and all you had to do is simply figure out which one has roughly the SAME POPULATION as South Dakota (pop. 865k) as Krugman stated. It’s The City of San Francisco (pop. 875k). The San Fran Metro has a population of 4.7 million. So your attempted spin is pointless.

Using YOUR DATA, 2,040/560=3.64, like Krugman said.

And Krugman compared an apple to an orange, as I pointed out. The population of San Fran is those who live there. It is NOT indicative of the # of people that spend 8-10-12 hours a day there working, delivering, dining, entertaining, before returning to their homes. To compare a metro center ONLY based on its population without factoring in the infinite number of others who come there for a majority of their days then take COVID home is a negligent and dangerous comparison. The people that work in San Fran live in those counties.

I do remember you arguing about how COVID is spread in transit (subways, trains). Now...you want to ignore this. Rich.

San Fran's population is 875K. The average weekday population including commuters (not counting visitors) is 2.874M. Counting in visitors, the number is 3.94M.

If someone goes into San Francisco, attends a game, goes to work, goes home to San Mateo county and has COVID from those interactions, it's from being in the city. Krugman's rudimentary, faulty analysis ignores all of it. 100% of it. He only focuses on those who live there.

To ignore the 2M to 3M people that spend 8-10-12 hours a day there is nothing more than statistical abuse.

Or are you saying people that go to work in San Fran couldn't possibly contract COVID and take it home? It's a COVID-free environment, like a BLM rally?

People that live in South Dakota do not deal with this transient issue save for very small metro areas like Sioux Falls.

The only proper comparison is to point to South Dakota v the San Fran metro reason because of the nature in which these people commute. Facts.
 
I just got back from a Sammy Hagar concert. It was packed and I only saw one person wearing a mask. She was a brainwashed mousy little **** with fear in her eyes. I laughed.
 
And Krugman compared an apple to an orange, as I pointed out. The population of San Fran is those who live there. It is NOT indicative of the # of people that spend 8-10-12 hours a day there working, delivering, dining, entertaining, before returning to their homes. To compare a metro center ONLY based on its population without factoring in the infinite number of others who come there for a majority of their days then take COVID home is a negligent and dangerous comparison. The people that work in San Fran live in those counties.

I do remember you arguing about how COVID is spread in transit (subways, trains). Now...you want to ignore this. Rich.

San Fran's population is 875K. The average weekday population including commuters (not counting visitors) is 2.874M. Counting in visitors, the number is 3.94M.

If someone goes into San Francisco, attends a game, goes to work, goes home to San Mateo county and has COVID from those interactions, it's from being in the city. Krugman's rudimentary, faulty analysis ignores all of it. 100% of it. He only focuses on those who live there.

To ignore the 2M to 3M people that spend 8-10-12 hours a day there is nothing more than statistical abuse.

Or are you saying people that go to work in San Fran couldn't possibly contract COVID and take it home? It's a COVID-free environment, like a BLM rally?

People that live in South Dakota do not deal with this transient issue save for very small metro areas like Sioux Falls.

The only proper comparison is to point to South Dakota v the San Fran metro reason because of the nature in which these people commute. Facts.
Holy ****! Then the denominator is 4.7 million, not 875k. Whatever is included in the numerator MUST be in the denominator. That’s how ratios work. If you were determining the death rate of the surrounding counties, would you subtract out any deaths of people who work in San Francisco, but then still include them as part of the population of the surrounding counties? Of course not. Unbelievable! You really do live in your own reality.
 
Holy ****! Unbelievable!

OMG! LOL!

You have to be a teenage girl. If not, the most beta cuck boy ever to troll a message board.

If you were to paper-cut yourself, does soy actually ooze out? Do you get woozy at the sight?
 
OMG! LOL!

You have to be a teenage girl. If not, the most beta cuck boy ever to troll a message board.

If you were to paper-cut yourself, does soy actually ooze out? Do you get woozy at the sight?
What because teenage girls understand ratios? Lemme guess, you can’t explain where Tim’s math was wrong?

 
Paul Krugman in his article today, which wasn’t about Covid but about the urban hellhole myth ...

Where do you live? Serious question. You make comments and cite materials that are asinine.

I ask because I lived in an urban environment, Los Angeles, and still travel back there now and again for business. My wife and I were fortunate enough to find a home north of LA proper, but I had to drive in to downtown LA and back home 5 days per week. I was last in downtown Los Angeles about eight weeks ago. Based on actual experience, I can state the following about urban living:
  • Crime is terrible. Car stolen twice, stereo stolen twice, home broken into when we were on vacation and stuff stolen. Somebody stole the catalytic converter out of our 4Runner when it was parked in our goddamn driveway.
  • Prices are terrible. Home prices, gasoline prices, insurance, medical insurance. Terrible. "Oh because people make so much money ..." Horseshit.
  • Homeless are everywhere. Aggressive, filthy, disgusting. When I was in LA in early 2020, I saw a homeless guy walking towards me. Without pants. Good news is he also had no underwear. I could smell him when he was 10' away. And nobody seemed to find that out of the ordinary. "No big deal."
  • It's dirty. Garbage on the streets, unkempt lawns, graffiti, water bottles, beer bottles, dirty homes, dirty cars. Just dirty.
  • Traffic is a joke. What a ******* waste of so much of my life. Absolutely horrible. Because urban ...
In 2018, wife and I moved out of Los Angeles to as non-urban an environment as you can imagine - Central Arizona, near Granite Mountain. Here is the non-urban truth:
  • Crime is basically non-existent.
  • Prices are good. Not great, but better for every major life expense (housing, gasoline, energy, insurance, gasoline).
  • No homeless. None.
  • Clean. The entire town, the civic square, the streets, buildings. No graffiti, at all, anywhere. No garbage on the streets, loose trash. We pick up after ourselves.
  • No traffic. 54,000 of us can somehow drive to our destinations without ******* stopping to look at a tire, or a wreck, or a mattress in large part because our roads do NOT have tires, mattresses on the road and very few wrecks because we know how to drive and if an accident happens, we pull over and exchange information instead of fleeing because we are an illegal alien with no license or insurance.
So **** Paul Krugman, a jackass idiot dipshit spewing bullshit. People are moving out of cities because they improve their lives by doing so. I did, and would no more consider moving back into a city then I would voting for a dementia-ridden bumbling imbecile creep who fondles kids and gobbles ice cream.
 
Holy ****! Then the denominator is 4.7 million, not 875k. Whatever is included in the numerator MUST be in the denominator. That’s how ratios work. If you were determining the death rate of the surrounding counties, would you subtract out any deaths of people who work in San Francisco, but then still include them as part of the population of the surrounding counties? Of course not. Unbelievable! You really do live in your own reality.

I present to the group Floggyisms. The perfect example of how Floggy attempts to engage the stronger set of our population. Make one argument, get your *** kicked, change the argument to something else.

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That is NOT what you argued. You're changing the argument. Let's stick with YOUR argument: "Paul Krugman in his article today, which wasn’t about Covid but about the urban hellhole myth, alluded to the fact that San Francisco and South Dakota have about the same population but that South Dakota had four times as many Covid deaths."

Krugman didn't discuss rates. Krugman discussed absolute numbers. Not percentages. The # of people that died. Nothing more.

Now you want to argue death rates. Two completely and totally different arguments.

Krugman attempted to take an area that is 3x-5x larger in worker/visitor population than it's resident population, strip the deaths attributed to that area from the equation, then make a comparison with an area that is NOTHING like this metro center. He quite literally omitted 90.1% of the deaths in that metro area, ignoring wholly the # of deaths attributable to people getting COVID in San Francisco. Nothing could be a better example of abuse of statistics.


South Dakota got hit hard. But where are we now? Seems still that their approach worked, did it not, when you look at the following?

The Bay Area:

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South Dakota:

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You have loved picking on South Dakota. Today....

66 Counties in South Dakota...
  • 41 counties have ZERO reported cases as of today - 62%
  • 22 counties have <1 cases reported as of today - 33%
63 of 66 counties in South Dakota are reporting less than one case a day - 95%

Those Bay Area Counties compared to South Dakota as of today??


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You and Krugman are still banging that drum that somehow the Bay Area handled things better than South Dakota, when where we are now is really what matters.

****...even if Krugman wants to be a myopic pinhead, compare SD to San Francisco county only. They are 5x worse than the state of South Dakota.

His point...is moot.
 
I present to the group Floggyisms. The perfect example of how Floggy attempts to engage the stronger set of our population. Make one argument, get your *** kicked, change the argument to something else.

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That is NOT what you argued. You're changing the argument. Let's stick with YOUR argument: "Paul Krugman in his article today, which wasn’t about Covid but about the urban hellhole myth, alluded to the fact that San Francisco and South Dakota have about the same population but that South Dakota had four times as many Covid deaths."

Krugman didn't discuss rates. Krugman discussed absolute numbers. Not percentages. The # of people that died. Nothing more.

Now you want to argue death rates. Two completely and totally different arguments.

Krugman attempted to take an area that is 3x-5x larger in worker/visitor population than it's resident population, strip the deaths attributed to that area from the equation, then make a comparison with an area that is NOTHING like this metro center. He quite literally omitted 90.1% of the deaths in that metro area, ignoring wholly the # of deaths attributable to people getting COVID in San Francisco. Nothing could be a better example of abuse of statistics.


South Dakota got hit hard. But where are we now? Seems still that their approach worked, did it not, when you look at the following?

The Bay Area:

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South Dakota:

View attachment 5724

You have loved picking on South Dakota. Today....

66 Counties in South Dakota...
  • 41 counties have ZERO reported cases as of today - 62%
  • 22 counties have <1 cases reported as of today - 33%
63 of 66 counties in South Dakota are reporting less than one case a day - 95%

Those Bay Area Counties compared to South Dakota as of today??


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You and Krugman are still banging that drum that somehow the Bay Area handled things better than South Dakota, when where we are now is really what matters.

****...even if Krugman wants to be a myopic pinhead, compare SD to San Francisco county only. They are 5x worse than the state of South Dakota.

His point...is moot.
OMG! Krugman didn’t have to discuss rates BECAUSE he stated they had the SAME POPULATION. (The SAME DENOMINATOR). Its not a different argument at all. Once you have different denominators, THEN you have to rely on rates. You really don’t understand ratios.
 
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