More restrictions, eh?
We should just masquerade as illegals and then riot aka 'peaceful protest' and we should be all good.
We should just masquerade as illegals and then riot aka 'peaceful protest' and we should be all good.
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One interesting point. Remember the RAGING INFERNO that was India just weeks ago when Delta variant swept through the country?
Expect the same here.
Expect the same here.
The opinion of Dr. Zona (I actually have that degree, and it's worth more than Dr. Jill's) is as follows:
Those that are susceptible to succumbing to this virus, should for their own health, receive the vaccine, no question.
While getting the vaccine will not guarantee contracting or spreading the virus, it will likely keep you from dying from it, and that's the point.
Those that choose not to vaccinate do so at their own risk and I can only assume they realize this.
The unvaccinated also run the risk of contracting and spreading the virus, but it will only be potentially lethal to others that are unvaccinated.
The continued hysteria over this is unwarranted, but realize it won't stop the hyperventilating of those that are convinced the world is ending.
Those that are susceptible to succumbing to this virus, should for their own health, receive the vaccine, no question.
While getting the vaccine will not guarantee contracting or spreading the virus, it will likely keep you from dying from it, and that's the point.
Those that choose not to vaccinate do so at their own risk and I can only assume they realize this.
The unvaccinated also run the risk of contracting and spreading the virus, but it will only be potentially lethal to others that are unvaccinated.
The continued hysteria over this is unwarranted, but realize it won't stop the hyperventilating of those that are convinced the world is ending.
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From what I've read both the unvaccinated and the vaccinated can be spreaders. Also there is a difference between unvaccinated and those who are unvaccinated but had Covid at some point. They can have natural immunity. Just because someone hasn't been vaccinated doesn't mean they don't have antibodies, T-cells or B-cell immunity.
I agree with this completely, the point I was trying to make is that this virus, even with the variants, is self limiting. Almost everyone that's still at risk are the unvaccinated that haven't been exposed yet, and those numbers decrease by the day. The return to lockdowns and masks aren't going to change this.
It's a bit maddening that the discussion is now on the number of new cases as opposed to deaths. Why? Because few are dying now.
Do we track the number of people with the common cold, because that's just about where we are at this point.
It’s the one point in the data that isn’t being told to us. How many unvaccinated folks are previously positive.
I take that back. 4 data points. Those vaccinated and previous positive. I want all four.
Meanwhile they took him to a rest home and told him it was camp David.
President Potato has spoken. I don't expect Floggio or Tiblio to address this, because their dear leader's words contradict what they are here preaching. So, this will be ignored. But this should get much play.
President Dementia: "While cases are on the rise, we’re not likely to see according to the experts a comparable rise in hospitalizations or deaths."
Wow, Canuckistan is getting scary. Arrested for a Facebook post.
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I agree. There are always going to be variants. No reason to shut down the world over it.
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i doesn't make any sense if you go by the assumption that the goal is to keep people safe. But it makes perfect sense if the goal is to continue to crush the economy Cloward Piven style and to make sure mail in voting stays in effect for the near future.
Welp....we all knew this. We have been saying it here over and over and over. Tiblio and Floggtard will continue to say "Nope, not true, COVID kill all."
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The most comprehensive and perhaps important COVID-19 study to date was released in the U.K on July 7th. Although largely ignored by the mainstream press, the study is of great importance because it actually quantifies the health risks of COVID among children and teenagers.
Impressively, researchers from prestigious U.K. medical institutions reviewed every COVID case involving children and young people (CYP) hospitalized in the U.K. in the first 12 months of the pandemic.
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With the above information presented for context, it’s probably conservative in estimating that 2 percent of U.K. children (1 in 50) live with the extremely severe medical conditions described above. This would mean that 98 percent of young people do not. Assuming my assumptions are reasonable, one can calculate the national mortality rate among children who are not considered extremely vulnerable. This percentage is 0.0001 (6 deaths divided by an estimated 11.783 million “healthy” CYP). Expressed as a probability of death, this would be 1-in-1.964 million (approximately 1 in 2 million).
Per this and other studies, COVID mortality rates vary significantly according to a racial category. For example, among the population of young whites in the U.K., only 7 children and adolescents died of COVID. Approximately 86 percent of CYP in the U.K. are white. However, this cohort comprised just 28 percent of the 25 COVID deaths. Since 24 percent of those who died of COVID did not have a severe co-morbid condition(s), we can extrapolate that only 2 non-minority children (7 x 0.24) without a pre-existing chronic or “life-limiting” health condition passed away from COVID.
By extrapolating these 2 deaths to the estimated population of 10.133 million young whites who do not suffer from extreme medical conditions, we get this “stop-the-presses” headline: Covid mortality among young, “healthy” whites in the first year of the pandemic was approximately 1-in-5.066 million (0.0001 percent). This information qualifies as the best COVID news I’ve read to date. Basically, the odds one of my two young children will die from COVID are smaller than the odds I’d correctly pick the six winning numbers in the lottery. (Although higher, the odds a healthy minority child would die from COVID are also remote in the extreme).
While I knew these odds were microscopic, I didn’t know they were THIS microscopic. A mortality rate of 0.0001 is as close to 0.0000 as numerology can get.
For children in the U.K. under the age of 18, the study’s authors calculated the infection fatality rate (IFR) for COVID among children to be 0.005 percent (25 COVID deaths divided by an estimated 470,000 cumulative COVID “cases” among CYP as of Feb. 28). Perhaps easier to grasp, among children under 18 in the U.K., 1 in 20,000 infected by this virus later died from it. Among those under age 18, the estimated IFR for influenza is 1 in 10,000 (0.01 percent). Thus, for CYP, influenza is twice as deadly as COVID. (The IFR for COVID-19 would be even lower if the denominator—the “estimated” number of cases— were larger, which I suspect it was).
This study is important for another reason: The findings effectively reduced the estimated number of CYP in the UK who died “of” COVID by 59 percent—from 61 deaths to 25. The study notes that 61 hospitalized CYP in the U.K. died within two weeks of testing positive via a PCR test.
However, the study distinguishes between young people who died with the virus and those the researchers concluded most likely died “from” or because of the virus. The authors concluded that the primary contributor to death for more than half of the 61 fatal cases they examined was not COVID-19. And, as noted, only six of the 25 COVID deaths occurred among children without pre-existing serious medical conditions.
The thorough cause-of-death assessments performed in this analysis suggest it’s very likely the number of deaths attributed to COVID has also been over-reported in other age cohorts. Mortality and infection fatality rates from all age cohorts may also be significantly lower than currently reported.
The authors, albeit gently, made another contrarian point, noting “the risk of removal of CYP from their normal activities across education and social events may prove a greater risk than that of SARS-CoV-2 itself.”
If I had written this report, I would have dropped the qualifying words “may prove” and replaced them with “did prove.” That is, the multitude of “shielding” measures—no school, no social activities, no recreational activities, mandatory masking, enforced “social distancing”—DID, without question, cause great harm to the physical and mental health of those under the age of 18.
Certainly, per the findings of this study, COVID-19 did not cause great harm to the health of those in the examined age cohort. While the study focussed on children under the age of 18, one imagines the findings would have been similar if data had included medical information on the U.K.’s college-aged population of 18 to 22.
For example, several credible reports strongly suggest a correlation between vaccination and cases of myocarditis and pericarditis in the age cohort teenager to early 20s. This apparent “elevated risk” is particularly striking among young males. Indeed, it seems possible the incidence of myocarditis among fully-vaccinated young males might be as high as 1 in 3,000 (0.33 percent). Even if the incidence of myocarditis is much rarer than these early findings indicate, this risk would still be orders of magnitude greater than the 1-in-2-million (0.0001) risk of death that COVID poses to healthy young people.
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For Majority of UK children, COVID Mortality is 0.000 - UncoverDC
The most comprehensive and perhaps important COVID study to date was recently released in the UK quantifying the health risks of COVID among children and teenagers.
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For Majority of UK children, COVID Mortality is 0.000
Before Flog/Tibs say "undercover DC, who reads that ****, HERE is the study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.07.21259779v1.fullThe most comprehensive and perhaps important COVID-19 study to date was released in the U.K on July 7th. Although largely ignored by the mainstream press, the study is of great importance because it actually quantifies the health risks of COVID among children and teenagers.
Impressively, researchers from prestigious U.K. medical institutions reviewed every COVID case involving children and young people (CYP) hospitalized in the U.K. in the first 12 months of the pandemic.
Among the Study’s Key Findings:
- Only 25 children aged 0 to 17 in the U.K. died of COVID in the pandemic’s first 12 months.
- Of these 25 deaths, 19 (76 percent) occurred among patients who had pre-existing “chronic co-morbidities” and/or “life-limiting” medical conditions. Only 24 percent of COVID deaths occurred among children with no “underlying health conditions.”
- This means only six “healthy” children and young people in this nation of 68 million people died of COVID.
- Among the 12.023 million children and young people in the U.K., the mortality rate was 0.002 percent. Expressed as a probability, COVID mortality in CYP was 1 out of 480,942.
- However, the vast majority of CYP in the UK (or any Western nation, including the U.S.A.) do NOT have “chronic co-morbidities” and/or suffer from “life-limiting” medical conditions.
- A footnote in the study defines life-limiting conditions as “diseases with no reasonable hope of a cure that will ultimately be fatal.” Approximately 3 in 1,000 young people have medical conditions characterized as “life-limiting.”
- “Our findings emphasize the importance of underlying co-morbidities as the main risk factor for death, as 76% had chronic conditions, 64% had multiple co-morbidities, and 60% had life-limiting conditions.”
- Among the 25 U.K. children who died of COVID, 15 had a “life-limiting neurological condition,” of which 13 “had complex neurodisability due to a combination of an underlying genetic or metabolic condition, hypoxic-ischaemic events or prematurity.”
https://i1.wp.com/uncoverdc.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/F1.medium.gif?ssl=1
With the above information presented for context, it’s probably conservative in estimating that 2 percent of U.K. children (1 in 50) live with the extremely severe medical conditions described above. This would mean that 98 percent of young people do not. Assuming my assumptions are reasonable, one can calculate the national mortality rate among children who are not considered extremely vulnerable. This percentage is 0.0001 (6 deaths divided by an estimated 11.783 million “healthy” CYP). Expressed as a probability of death, this would be 1-in-1.964 million (approximately 1 in 2 million).
Per this and other studies, COVID mortality rates vary significantly according to a racial category. For example, among the population of young whites in the U.K., only 7 children and adolescents died of COVID. Approximately 86 percent of CYP in the U.K. are white. However, this cohort comprised just 28 percent of the 25 COVID deaths. Since 24 percent of those who died of COVID did not have a severe co-morbid condition(s), we can extrapolate that only 2 non-minority children (7 x 0.24) without a pre-existing chronic or “life-limiting” health condition passed away from COVID.
By extrapolating these 2 deaths to the estimated population of 10.133 million young whites who do not suffer from extreme medical conditions, we get this “stop-the-presses” headline: Covid mortality among young, “healthy” whites in the first year of the pandemic was approximately 1-in-5.066 million (0.0001 percent). This information qualifies as the best COVID news I’ve read to date. Basically, the odds one of my two young children will die from COVID are smaller than the odds I’d correctly pick the six winning numbers in the lottery. (Although higher, the odds a healthy minority child would die from COVID are also remote in the extreme).
While I knew these odds were microscopic, I didn’t know they were THIS microscopic. A mortality rate of 0.0001 is as close to 0.0000 as numerology can get.
Comparing COVID Mortality to Influenza Mortality
This study also confirms that children’s COVID mortality rate is significantly lower than the mortality rate from influenza.For children in the U.K. under the age of 18, the study’s authors calculated the infection fatality rate (IFR) for COVID among children to be 0.005 percent (25 COVID deaths divided by an estimated 470,000 cumulative COVID “cases” among CYP as of Feb. 28). Perhaps easier to grasp, among children under 18 in the U.K., 1 in 20,000 infected by this virus later died from it. Among those under age 18, the estimated IFR for influenza is 1 in 10,000 (0.01 percent). Thus, for CYP, influenza is twice as deadly as COVID. (The IFR for COVID-19 would be even lower if the denominator—the “estimated” number of cases— were larger, which I suspect it was).
This study is important for another reason: The findings effectively reduced the estimated number of CYP in the UK who died “of” COVID by 59 percent—from 61 deaths to 25. The study notes that 61 hospitalized CYP in the U.K. died within two weeks of testing positive via a PCR test.
However, the study distinguishes between young people who died with the virus and those the researchers concluded most likely died “from” or because of the virus. The authors concluded that the primary contributor to death for more than half of the 61 fatal cases they examined was not COVID-19. And, as noted, only six of the 25 COVID deaths occurred among children without pre-existing serious medical conditions.
The thorough cause-of-death assessments performed in this analysis suggest it’s very likely the number of deaths attributed to COVID has also been over-reported in other age cohorts. Mortality and infection fatality rates from all age cohorts may also be significantly lower than currently reported.
The authors, albeit gently, made another contrarian point, noting “the risk of removal of CYP from their normal activities across education and social events may prove a greater risk than that of SARS-CoV-2 itself.”
If I had written this report, I would have dropped the qualifying words “may prove” and replaced them with “did prove.” That is, the multitude of “shielding” measures—no school, no social activities, no recreational activities, mandatory masking, enforced “social distancing”—DID, without question, cause great harm to the physical and mental health of those under the age of 18.
Certainly, per the findings of this study, COVID-19 did not cause great harm to the health of those in the examined age cohort. While the study focussed on children under the age of 18, one imagines the findings would have been similar if data had included medical information on the U.K.’s college-aged population of 18 to 22.
Implications for Vaccine Debate
Although study authors do not offer a firm and unambiguous opinion on the topic, it seems clear they do not support mandatory vaccines for an age cohort that their study proves has almost zero risks of dying from COVID. Harmful health effects possibly caused by vaccination in young people were not a subject of analysis; however, myriad concerns exist and have been documented in various domestic and international reports.For example, several credible reports strongly suggest a correlation between vaccination and cases of myocarditis and pericarditis in the age cohort teenager to early 20s. This apparent “elevated risk” is particularly striking among young males. Indeed, it seems possible the incidence of myocarditis among fully-vaccinated young males might be as high as 1 in 3,000 (0.33 percent). Even if the incidence of myocarditis is much rarer than these early findings indicate, this risk would still be orders of magnitude greater than the 1-in-2-million (0.0001) risk of death that COVID poses to healthy young people.
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Liberals will go to NO ends to lie to us to push an agenda. None. The woman is a vet. Poses a photo as if she is in a hospital.........
Colorado hospitals are NOT at capacity, it's a lie. She's running as a Dem in Colorado, so she's lying to everyone.
Colorado hospitals are NOT at capacity, it's a lie. She's running as a Dem in Colorado, so she's lying to everyone.
well, aint this somethin
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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot attends Lollapalooza music festival amid reinstating COVID restrictions
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot faced criticism for continuing to hold a music festival in the midst of reinstating COVID-19 restrictions.
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well, aint this somethin
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot attends Lollapalooza music festival amid reinstating COVID restrictions
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot faced criticism for continuing to hold a music festival in the midst of reinstating COVID-19 restrictions.
My son was there, in Chicago this weekend. Saw Post Malone, etc. performing.
Had a great time. Super spreader event. No surprise Beetle Juice was there. Probably unmasked as well. Today she'll be asking the rest of Chicago to lock down.
Nothing at all wrong with those waffling positions. None at all.
A year ago, we were conspiracy theorists.
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GOP report says evidence points to COVID emerging from Wuhan lab
House Foreign Affairs Committee Republicans released their report on COVID-19’s origins, pointing to evidence of a lab leak, genetic modification, and a cover-up, making the case the virus accidentally emerged from the Wuhan lab in the fall of 2019.
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Perspective about this RAGING INFERNO.
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Washington, DC, murders surpass coronavirus deaths in July by nearly 3-to-1 ratio
The number of homicides in Washington, D.C., surpassed coronavirus deaths in the city by a nearly 3-to-1 ratio in July as the nation’s capital continues to grapple with an uptick in murders.
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Well its a good thing everyone over in India is finally getting the vac...
Well it’s official. Mandated to get pokey
Googled her. She “apparently” works as a PT at a hospital. So why the **** is she working in a covid floor? PT isn’t part of covid treatment is it? Can’t imagine. Post recovery sure.
also. She is running for a seat at some politics ****.
Debby Burnett, Democrat for Colorado
Debby is a 4th generation Coloradoan, a veterinarian and a mother running for Congress in Colorado's 3rd District. Help us unseat Lauren Boebert today!
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there's a gray area.
suggest you are now scared for your own health and safety to come into the office.
I think Dr. FloggedbyFauci™ is going to have to have a word with you.