The Epstein Problem
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Refusing to play make believe isn’t being ignorant.
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Tibs,
My participation here has waned. The reason being that politics of this world are a garbage dump. Trump is arrogant and petty, but does some pretty impressive things. The dem leadership is over reactive and mis-focused, and not trustworthy. (There are more offenses on both sides, but I want to be brief here).
So, the question is "Can this all be discussed rationally?"
In a rational world, we could all agree that Trump needs to grow up and not be a middle school puke on social media, or in interviews.
In a rational world we.can agree that there is a lot of theft of public money, inconsistent application of justice and reporting, that swift justice for leadership crimes and wrongs must be dealt with harshly, that protection of the citizenry is a huge priority, that going into debt to leverage votes or kickbacks, or . . . . Is needing punishment, and this list goes on.
The sad part is that this rational world does not exist on this side of the grave. So, we are left with petty, ego driven, partial truths and suspicions, driven by loyalty to a political party, at the cost of reason, conversation, respect, integrity, etc.
So, there you have it. We can all continue down this road, or put on the brakes, and call others to rational conversation. You choose. I have chosen.
I'm glad you're still showing up here. Perhaps we can have more civil conversation again.
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Wait, what???
Your initial position was to post an article that says Epstein victims are angry about names being redacted....
So I reply, there's nothing stopping them from naming their assailants.
And you respond with yet another link that says....(I can't, I really can't LOL):
"Survivors of Jeffrey Epstein are not universally identifying their abusers due to a complex mix of fear, legal intimidation, the immense power of the individuals involved, and a lack of faith in the justice system. While some victims have come forward, many have faced threats and harassment, leading to a climate where speaking out is dangerous"
So your argument is that victims are both pissed off about their names being redacted but simultaneously argue why they wouldn't want their names revealed.
This takes the damned cake. I'll pay $200 a year for membership here for you to keep entertaining me. This is too damned good
Dipshit. We’re talking about the ABUSER’S names being redacted. You literally cannot follow along. You have the attention span of a toddler.
The spew.
Your TDS affliction feeds your delusions.
Since your return from your hiatus, the handful of bona fide extremists on this board has risen to 2.
Going by the growing number of blacks, women and younger persons in general that have woken to the evil, corrupt left, it gives the impression that the Conservative movement seems to be gaining in strength.
Even liberal extremists such as Bill Maher have begun to wake up.
Maher is still a Liberal Democrat but he doesn't want his party to lose, that's why he's calling them out.
As if a liberal demonrat such as yourself that voted to remove God from its platform ever cared about Christianity, let alone morals.
And when the opportunity arises, from the other side of your mouth you will bash Christianity when it aligns with your agenda.
And spare us from how much you “miss the Republican Party”, patronizing. We can see right through you. You’re a fraud.
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Conservatives have had very little change in what they believe over the last 20 years. The left has moved much further left in that period. I can't find right this second but I saw a plot of core beliefs and where they fall on the right left spectrum, it showed clearly that the right was very steady the left was drifting noticeably. Tibs, you are good example of that, since Trump was elected the first time you went from being a Democrat left leaner with sometimes moderate stances to full blown TDS. You have even admitted as much at times.
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You’re playing make believe.
And this was before he offended blacks with his idiotic posts.
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If you really believe that there is incriminating stuff about Trump that the Biden administration wouldn’t make public over some sense of protecting the integrity of an investigation, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. You really think they’d protect Trump before an election by not leaking child rape evidence? The people who have spent the last 8 years furiously prosecuting him over bookkeeping issues? You can’t be that naive.
Not to mention, they could make their knowledge of child rape evidence public now if they wanted to. Why don’t they?
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What don’t you understand about the case files being sealed under Biden?
If we could apply Newton's Third Law of Motion to this type of rhetoric…which states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction….so when you and your kind resort to calling Trump “Hitler”, a fascist, a racist, dictator and whatever else, expect an equal and opposite reaction.
Three caveats:
Attaching these labels isn’t a matter of “what came first, the chicken or the egg” . A no brainer. You people started this fire back in 2016.
Secondly there is far more truth in the fact that many of those who disagree with Trump are indeed flaming liberals and communists.
There is no truth to Trump being a Hitler.
Even those on your side have called out to put an end to that nonsense.
Did you pay any attention to those who were inciting violence on the streets of Minneapolis? Those that cheered Charlie Kirk’s death, and were saddened, such as yourself, when the assassination on Trump failed?
Mamdami, AOC, Schumer, Gavin Newsome, Bernie Sanders…Are you blind or just in denial.
Thirdly. Whataboutism. If that’s what you want to call it, is merely a way of exposing the hypocrisy and double standards so prevalent among you people.
You can’t face the realization that you are hypocrites, thus you going with whataboutism becomes a convenient cop out.
There were thousands that were not sealed.
What don’t you understand about the fact that Biden could have released all the files by executive order as easily as Trump did?
As rabid as you people were in trying to be rid of Trump, you would think releasing the files would be a sure way to go about it.
What do you think was keeping them from doing so? Something to hide?
Exhibit A.
And you want to cry about being called a flaming liberal.
At least you have provided proof of that.
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I understand perfectly. What don't you understand about the term "leak"? From the dictionary:
2. an intentional disclosure of something secret or private.
"one of the employees was responsible for the leak"
or "Former FBI Director James Comey leaked classified information to a reporter."
And again, it's all unsealed now, by law. If they know there's incriminating Trump info in there, why aren't they telling anyone?
Well as far as I’m concerned as long as he continues to do good work it really doesn’t matter what he is.
At the rate he’s going, it would not surprise me if this liberal votes Republican next time.
He could also claim to be a liberal to save face in order not to lose his audience.
Remember he had undergone a change of heart and an attitude adjustment when he visited Trump at the White House.
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says the Smooth Brain who believes there are 97 genders.
If I may add another ingredient to the whited sepulcher stew, let's look at the multiple videos of the "peaceful freedom fighters" in Minneapolis expressing their 1st amendment rights in calling Black ICE agents house n***ers.
I will grant you that the release of the video by Trump or WH staff regarding the Obamas was immature at best, but where is the outrage from our socialist friends about the behavior of their comrades in Minnesota? Hypocrisy indeed.
100%
I truly wish we had a POTUS who would be mature when commenting - either in interviews or social media.
Gone are the days of such heads of state, though.
While I support Trump, I also cringe when he speaks. The way he forms his words, speaks with his hands, speaks about things overly extravagant... I mean, we know who you are - you don't need to keep telling us that this is great, best ever, etc etc
Let your actions speak louder than your words.
I'll also say that while Bomma was eloquent and could charm the silver off a fork, his policies were atrocious. I don't give a damn about his marriage, or what he did behind closed doors. Though it's 100% fun to poke at liberals about this.
I'll also suggest that while I didn't necessarily agree with - and do not now - on every policy brought up or passed, I also consider that these idiots in goobermint may have more access to information than us working class plebes. I also understand "one hand washes the other" and that one policy can effect numerous others, just because goobermint.
all that said, **** the libs.
Take that logic to the trans thread.
No asswipe, ALL names are being redacted. ALL. VICTIMS and abusers. "...the law (and standard privacy protections) require the DOJ to redact personally identifying information about victims before making those files public."
So again, WHY don't the VICTIMS step forward and sing? Hmmm?
Perhaps you should argue on a topic you have some knowledge on?
Theme song of the current Democrat:
Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French I took
Don't know much about the rule of law
It's only Facebook that I saw........
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Which would be dildos and lube? Or being cucked? All the above?