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The Epstein Problem

It's universally accepted here that we all want those that were complicitly involved with Epstein identified and investigated as to their participation in his sick perversion.
It's ludicrous to state that the sole reason this hasn't happened is because the DOJ is absolutely covering for Trump. Feelings don't equate to facts.
There are actual attorneys here that will likely back up my claim but not having a law degree myself I'll defer to their judgement.
 
Judges....


Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche said in a letter to Congress earlier Friday that a team of more than 200 Justice Department lawyers scoured the documents in search of survivors' names and other things that needed to be redacted. He said the department is still going through the files and will release more of them on a "rolling basis," though the law required them to be released by Friday.

Blanche's letter also said "additional layers of review" were necessary when reviewing grand jury transcripts. Judges in New York and Florida have given the government permission to release grand jury transcripts from Epstein's and Maxwell's cases, but the judge overseeing the Maxwell case required the top federal prosecutor in Manhattan to "personally certify" that none of the documents contain victims' personal information.
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Some of Friday's redactions appear to black out the names of survivors, but it's not clear in every case why information was blacked out. The government is required to give Congress a list of redactions within 15 days.
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Djfan said:
I had to put nerf bars on my truck for Mrs. Fan.
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I've had nerf bars on other trucks but they're only good for getting my pants dirty in the winter.
 
Steelersreign said:
I guess 30 years late works for u

That’s what it takes to be a democrat cult follower
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helluva cleanup operation if it took 30 years to complete.
 
Troglodyte said:
Your explanation is laughable. As if there was no other way to redact the grand jury document without redacting all 100+ pages in its entirety.
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At this point, you can't even repeat my original explanation.

Troglodyte said:
The DOJ is trying to cover for Trump and you’re trying to cover for the DOJ, and you’re just as inept at it.
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This is your THEORY. Just like you supported the Russia, Russia, Russia theory. You're clutching your pearls and hoping. Because the TDS is real.
 
Troglodyte said:
Who’s being transparent
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Wait...what?! :ROFLMAO: Your new waffling position now is that Clinton is being transparent??? The Clintons??? OMFG - I'm renewing my annual membership now, this is too ******* rich lmao!

Troglodyte said:
You realize that Trump considers you a “bad Republican”? Or at least did until you stopped supporting the release of the files.
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When did I ever support NOT releasing the files? Gonna have to ask you once again to provide evidence of your idiotic claim.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Wait...what?! :ROFLMAO: Your new waffling position now is that Clinton is being transparent??? The Clintons??? OMFG - I'm renewing my annual membership now, this is too ******* rich lmao!



When did I ever support NOT releasing the files? Gonna have to ask you once again to provide evidence of your idiotic claim.
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ze has zero proof of anything other than what ze voices in zer empty cranium echoes back and forth
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
At this point, you can't even repeat my original explanation.



This is your THEORY. Just like you supported the Russia, Russia, Russia theory. You're clutching your pearls and hoping. Because the TDS is real.
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34 people were indicted and some plead guilty, Tim. Your theory is it was about adoption. Your theory about Trump is that when he bragged about sexually assaulting women and going into teenage girls dressing rooms that he was lying.
 
Whether Biden could have released the files or not, if there was dirt in any of this on Trump it would have leaked. It could still leak! This idea that everyone in the Biden administration and DOJ is keeping the dirt on Trump secret because they are sticklers about obeying the law is laughable. They’ve leaked all sorts of classified ****, even made stuff up. There’s no way if any leftwingers had real dirt on Trump it wouldn’t have come out.
 
I care less about this with every passing day because we are never going to get the truth. Only what someone wants you to believe is the truth.

It’s sad because this is not a small thing. But when two political parties want nothing more than to play political games with the information they have, who are they serving? Who are they helping? Better yet, who are they protecting? Why does anyone keep voting for them?

If the people holding the info don’t care enough to tell the truth, why should I care about any of it? When an angry parent decides to off a member of congress over that individual’s indifference to the victims, I’ll shrug my shoulders and move along with the same indifference. Well, maybe I’ll pump my fist a little.
 
Troglodyte said:
34 people were indicted and some plead guilty, Tim. Your theory is it was about adoption. Your theory about Trump is that when he bragged about sexually assaulting women and going into teenage girls dressing rooms that he was lying.
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PROVE he did this. It's a theory.
 
Troglodyte said:
34 people were indicted and some plead guilty, Tim. Your theory is it was about adoption. Your theory about Trump is that when he bragged about sexually assaulting women and going into teenage girls dressing rooms that he was lying.
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By teenage girls you mean 18+ year old adults where nothing bad happened right?
 
Sarge said:
I care less about this with every passing day because we are never going to get the truth. Only what someone wants you to believe is the truth.

It’s sad because this is not a small thing. But when two political parties want nothing more than to play political games with the information they have, who are they serving? Who are they helping? Better yet, who are they protecting? Why does anyone keep voting for them?

If the people holding the info don’t care enough to tell the truth, why should I care about any of it? When an angry parent decides to off a member of congress over that individual’s indifference to the victims, I’ll shrug my shoulders and move along with the same indifference. Well, maybe I’ll pump my fist a little.
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I expect that there is no smoking gun here. No “list” of people who slept with minors, no pictures of them doing it, no video tapes. Epstein and friends would be idiots to collect such things and if they did, surely after he was prosecuted once would have destroyed them. I’m not saying there are no guilty parties, just perhaps none that can be proven. Having been in the presence of Epstein 1 or 100 times doesn’t make someone guilty of child sexual assault, if it did there would be 100s of people convicted.
On the other hand, the victims presumably know who assaulted them as minors. They are clamoring for transparency but they are the ones who have firsthand knowledge. I’m not blaming them but how can you keep demanding transparency when you hold the most direct knowledge of any criminal activity and refuse to make it known? The argument goes that they don’t want to reveal out of fear of retribution, how is it any different for them if someone else reveals it all? Makes no sense.
 
oneforthebus said:
I expect that there is no smoking gun here. No “list” of people who slept with minors, no pictures of them doing it, no video tapes. Epstein and friends would be idiots to collect such things and if they did, surely after he was prosecuted once would have destroyed them. I’m not saying there are no guilty parties, just perhaps none that can be proven. Having been in the presence of Epstein 1 or 100 times doesn’t make someone guilty of child sexual assault, if it did there would be 100s of people convicted.
On the other hand, the victims presumably know who assaulted them as minors. They are clamoring for transparency but they are the ones who have firsthand knowledge. I’m not blaming them but how can you keep demanding transparency when you hold the most direct knowledge of any criminal activity and refuse to make it known? The argument goes that they don’t want to reveal out of fear of retribution, how is it any different for them if someone else reveals it all? Makes no sense.
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Yep, this has the grassy knoll written all over it. This isn't a recent event that only involves the Trump administration, this has gone on for decades and covers multiple administrations, and yet nothing comes of it. The victims and honestly is there proof that there actually are any, are now adults and one would think that if they know something that information would be made known in the form of lawsuits against the perpetrators, but again nothing, and all the public is left with is political banter.
 
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