The Epstein Problem

[Badcat]

You are one whiny c*nt. I guess some things never change.

You know, people would be decent to you if you were decent yourself. There are times when you post something as if you're a moderate and want to discuss a topic with some civility, and by page two your TDS and SIVS is raging as you look down upon us MAGA "cultists" as if we're pond scum. But you want to be treated with decency and fairness? I don't agree with some of these guys and gals politically or religiously, but you don't see me insulting them with vitriol hatred because they simply think differently than I do.

Say you're sorry, we'll...well, I'll commit to saying that I'm sorry for anything I've ever said to you that was not nice and let's have adult conversations. Quite frankly, I just don't believe you have it in you to not hate, yes hate, anyone to the right of your political spectrum.

 

[IndySteel]

Someone's a little pissy and needs to visit their safe space.

 

[oneforthebus]

You know, people would be decent to you if you were decent yourself. There are times when you post something as if you're a moderate and want to discuss a topic with some civility, and by page two your TDS and SIVS is raging as you look down upon us MAGA "cultists" as if we're pond scum. But you want to be treated with decency and fairness? I don't agree with some of these guys and gals politically or religiously, but you don't see me insulting them with vitriol hatred because they simply think differently than I do.

Say you're sorry, we'll...well, I'll commit to saying that I'm sorry for anything I've ever said to you that was not nice and let's have adult conversations. Quite frankly, I just don't believe you have it in you to not hate, yes hate, anyone to the right of your political spectrum.

From the way Tibs acts you'd think we were all here going "We love Trump no matter what! We don't care if he's a pedo! He's sent by Jesus to save us!"

We've almost all acknowledged how flawed he is. We almost all are capable of being objective. I don't think there's a person on this board who doesn't agree that if there's any actual evidence Trump raped children he needs to rot.

This is a problem with all TDS sufferers. They are uninterested in debating facts and evidence. Uninterested in debating policy. All they care about, all they think about, what consumes their every waking moment is how much they hate Trump and everyone who supports anything he does. They call Trump supporters cultists but I've never seen a flock of such obedient sheep as anti-Trump liberals. Or should I say parrots because whatever the party line of the day week or month is, they will all repeat it ad nauseum. They have no critical thinking ability. They just start name-calling and demonizing no matter the issue. I know plenty of people like Tibs, who you used to be able to have somewhat intelligent conversations with, who've become so consumed with Trump rage they can no longer form an intelligent argument.

And I say this as someone who has plenty of negative feelings about Trump. I would choose literally any other conservative Republican over him to be president. I've never even voted for him in a primary. Still I'm able to have rational opinions on individual issues based on facts and evidence. TDS sufferers cannot.

 

[Booted]

 

[madinsomniac]

From the way Tibs acts you'd think we were all here going "We love Trump no matter what! We don't care if he's a pedo! He's sent by Jesus to save us!"

We've almost all acknowledged how flawed he is. We almost all are capable of being objective. I don't think there's a person on this board who doesn't agree that if there's any actual evidence Trump raped children he needs to rot.

This is a problem with all TDS sufferers. They are uninterested in debating facts and evidence. Uninterested in debating policy. All they care about, all they think about, what consumes their every waking moment is how much they hate Trump and everyone who supports anything he does. They call Trump supporters cultists but I've never seen a flock of such obedient sheep as anti-Trump liberals. Or should I say parrots because whatever the party line of the day week or month is, they will all repeat it ad nauseum. They have no critical thinking ability. They just start name-calling and demonizing no matter the issue. I know plenty of people like Tibs, who you used to be able to have somewhat intelligent conversations with, who've become so consumed with Trump rage they can no longer form an intelligent argument.

And I say this as someone who has plenty of negative feelings about Trump. I would choose literally any other conservative Republican over him to be president. I've never even voted for him in a primary. Still I'm able to have rational opinions on individual issues based on facts and evidence. TDS sufferers cannot.

Yep... I'm no Trumpy acolyte.. I think he bungles and mismanages all kinds of things... I dont vote for uniparty guys, but I can acknowledge the good he does do and hear debates from both sides without losing my ****

95% of my lib friends cant rationally function when discussing him. If he backed breathing, they would all suffocate.. its worse than their Bush infatuation... worse than the repubs with Obama or Clinton...

The only one that came close was lib Nixon hate...
its seriously a mental illness level obsession..

Ive been absent from political discussions of late because you cant ration with the irrational

 

[Booted]

 

[Badcat]

From the way Tibs acts you'd think we were all here going "We love Trump no matter what! We don't care if he's a pedo! He's sent by Jesus to save us!"

We've almost all acknowledged how flawed he is. We almost all are capable of being objective. I don't think there's a person on this board who doesn't agree that if there's any actual evidence Trump raped children he needs to rot.

This is a problem with all TDS sufferers. They are uninterested in debating facts and evidence. Uninterested in debating policy. All they care about, all they think about, what consumes their every waking moment is how much they hate Trump and everyone who supports anything he does. They call Trump supporters cultists but I've never seen a flock of such obedient sheep as anti-Trump liberals. Or should I say parrots because whatever the party line of the day week or month is, they will all repeat it ad nauseum. They have no critical thinking ability. They just start name-calling and demonizing no matter the issue. I know plenty of people like Tibs, who you used to be able to have somewhat intelligent conversations with, who've become so consumed with Trump rage they can no longer form an intelligent argument.

And I say this as someone who has plenty of negative feelings about Trump. I would choose literally any other conservative Republican over him to be president. I've never even voted for him in a primary. Still I'm able to have rational opinions on individual issues based on facts and evidence. TDS sufferers cannot.

Agree 1000% with you. I recently read a note on the Socials, so it may not be true, but a sports bar owner posted that during the Super Bowl roughly 80% of the patrons wanted the TP USA half time show and 20% wanted to watch Bad Bunny. So, she turned 50% of the TVs to Bad Bunny and 50% to TPUSA. The 20% began to cancel their orders and/or left poor reviews on Google and Yelp while the other 80% continued to stay and did not complain. It isn't farfetched to believe, and I feel that people who aren't liberal minded are just trying to navigate life the best we can and be nice to one another.

 

[Steelersreign]

You are one whiny c*nt. I guess some things never change.

Are you ok man?
Not everybody has to think like you.
Take some time off and reevaluate things.

 

[Tibs]

You know, people would be decent to you if you were decent yourself. There are times when you post something as if you're a moderate and want to discuss a topic with some civility, and by page two your TDS and SIVS is raging as you look down upon us MAGA "cultists" as if we're pond scum. But you want to be treated with decency and fairness? I don't agree with some of these guys and gals politically or religiously, but you don't see me insulting them with vitriol hatred because they simply think differently than I do.

Say you're sorry, we'll...well, I'll commit to saying that I'm sorry for anything I've ever said to you that was not nice and let's have adult conversations. Quite frankly, I just don't believe you have it in you to not hate, yes hate, anyone to the right of your political spectrum.

Sorry that I responded directly, and very specifically, to Confluence, and Superman, just two of those who insult me at every turn. It's funny to me how none of you EVER find it in you to call out those who lodge personal attacks against me, thread after thread. The second I respond, I get a spotlight on me and everyone clutches their pearls. Post after post, I'm attacked by a handful of members here, which I ignore best I can, as I have for years. Then again, I respond to a single one of these personal attacks, the way I would at a bar, if someone said something like this to my face, and everyone throws a yellow flag. I guess you see what you want, and speak up, when you feel like it. It's cool, I guess, it's been this way forever.

And yes, there are plenty of folks on this board who are civil, normal, and engage in kind. Then there are those who are hellbent on chasing me off, time and again, which is unfortunate.

Edit - And it seems most of you missed why I called out Superman. It had nothing to do with politics. It was that as a mod, he brought back a post I had deleted this morning. He quoted it, as if the post was still on the board, some six hours after I had deleted it. It was a deleted post, which only he saw as an admin, and decided to bring it back onto the board, after I had deleted it. That's a pretty sh*tty move by a moderator on a message board, and the sole reason he did that, was to take a dig at me. I don't think it's ethical from a board moderator to do that, and I said so. Especially from a moderator who goes out of his way to insult and attack me at every turn, along with a few of his cohorts. So again, it's not a political thing, a pro-Trump or anti-Trump thing, just a lack of basic board etiquette that I think has been a part of SN since I've been here for two decades or so. Then Confluence comes along and just takes a personal swipe at me, for no reason, having nothing to do with anything. So I called him a c*nt, which I think was warranted, and would have done that to his face, if he had said what he did to my face. Again, none of this has to do with politics. But who cares, really.

 

[IndySteel]

Sorry that I responded directly, and very specifically, to Confluence, and Superman, just two of those who insult me at every turn. It's funny to me how none of you EVER find it in you to call out those who lodge personal attacks against me, thread after thread. The second I respond, I get a spotlight on me and everyone clutches their pearls. Post after post, I'm attacked by a handful of members here, which I ignore best I can, as I have for years. Then again, I respond to a single one of these personal attacks, the way I would at a bar, if someone said something like this to my face, and everyone throws a yellow flag. I guess you see what you want, and speak up, when you feel like it. It's cool, I guess, it's been this way forever.

And yes, there are plenty of folks on this board who are civil, normal, and engage in kind. Then there are those who are hellbent on chasing me off, time and again, which is unfortunate.

Edit - And it seems most of you missed why I called out Superman. It had nothing to do with politics. It was that as a mod, he brought back a post I had deleted this morning. He quoted it, as if the post was still on the board, some six hours after I had deleted it. It was a deleted post, which only he saw as an admin, and decided to bring it back onto the board, after I had deleted it. That's a pretty sh*tty move by a moderator on a message board, and the sole reason he did that, was to take a dig at me. I don't think it's ethical from a board moderator to do that, and I said so. Especially from a moderator who goes out of his way to insult and attack me at every turn, along with a few of his cohorts. So again, it's not a political thing, a pro-Trump or anti-Trump thing, just a lack of basic board etiquette that I think was a part of SN since I've been here for two decades or so.

Supe didn’t even attack you. He asked you a simple question. You need to douche your vag, commie retard. Now even though it’s true, that might be considered a personal attack. Ponder the difference in your safe space.

 

[Tibs]

Supe didn’t even attack you. He asked you a simple question. You need to douche your vag, commie retard. Now even though it’s true, that might be considered a personal attack. Ponder the difference in your safe space.

Yeah, "douche your vag, commie retard" is an insult, an insult among hundreds just like it coming from you, that doesn't seem to bother anyone on this board. Thanks for coming along and providing a real time example of what I'm talking about.

 

[IndySteel]

Yeah, "douche your vag, commie retard" is an insult, an insult among hundreds just like it coming from you, that doesn't seem to bother anyone on this board. Thanks for coming along and providing a real time example of what I'm talking about.

You’re welcome.

 

[Badcat]

Sorry that I responded directly, and very specifically, to Confluence, and Superman, just two of those who insult me at every turn. It's funny to me how none of you EVER find it in you to call out those who lodge personal attacks against me, thread after thread. The second I respond, I get a spotlight on me and everyone clutches their pearls. Post after post, I'm attacked by a handful of members here, which I ignore best I can, as I have for years. Then again, I respond to a single one of these personal attacks, the way I would at a bar, if someone said something like this to my face, and everyone throws a yellow flag. I guess you see what you want, and speak up, when you feel like it. It's cool, I guess, it's been this way forever.

And yes, there are plenty of folks on this board who are civil, normal, and engage in kind. Then there are those who are hellbent on chasing me off, time and again, which is unfortunate.

Edit - And it seems most of you missed why I called out Superman. It had nothing to do with politics. It was that as a mod, he brought back a post I had deleted this morning. He quoted it, as if the post was still on the board, some six hours after I had deleted it. It was a deleted post, which only he saw as an admin, and decided to bring it back onto the board, after I had deleted it. That's a pretty sh*tty move by a moderator on a message board, and the sole reason he did that, was to take a dig at me. I don't think it's ethical from a board moderator to do that, and I said so. Especially from a moderator who goes out of his way to insult and attack me at every turn, along with a few of his cohorts. So again, it's not a political thing, a pro-Trump or anti-Trump thing, just a lack of basic board etiquette that I think has been a part of SN since I've been here for two decades or so. Then Confluence comes along and just takes a personal swipe at me, for no reason, having nothing to do with anything. So I called him a c*nt, which I think was warranted, and would have done that to his face, if he had said what he did to my face. Again, none of this has to do with politics. But who cares, really.

I think you missed my point entirely. You have given every bit of what you take so don't be surprised when you're treated the way you are. You don't get to treat us all like dog **** on the bottom of your shoe and then play the victim card. You swung at Supe, he hits back harder than you like and now you're crying out for fairness. Life don't work like that homie. Tone down the message, act with a little dignity, and you'll see it in return. Keep acting like a hateful and spiteful ******* and you get what you get, brother.

If I treated any other board member like you treat us, I'd be given the same treatment as you. It isn't about fairness; it's about being a decent person.

 

[Confluence]

Sorry that I responded directly, and very specifically, to Confluence, and Superman, just two of those who insult me at every turn. It's funny to me how none of you EVER find it in you to call out those who lodge personal attacks against me, thread after thread. The second I respond, I get a spotlight on me and everyone clutches their pearls. Post after post, I'm attacked by a handful of members here, which I ignore best I can, as I have for years. Then again, I respond to a single one of these personal attacks, the way I would at a bar, if someone said something like this to my face, and everyone throws a yellow flag. I guess you see what you want, and speak up, when you feel like it. It's cool, I guess, it's been this way forever.

And yes, there are plenty of folks on this board who are civil, normal, and engage in kind. Then there are those who are hellbent on chasing me off, time and again, which is unfortunate.

Edit - And it seems most of you missed why I called out Superman. It had nothing to do with politics. It was that as a mod, he brought back a post I had deleted this morning. He quoted it, as if the post was still on the board, some six hours after I had deleted it. It was a deleted post, which only he saw as an admin, and decided to bring it back onto the board, after I had deleted it. That's a pretty sh*tty move by a moderator on a message board, and the sole reason he did that, was to take a dig at me. I don't think it's ethical from a board moderator to do that, and I said so. Especially from a moderator who goes out of his way to insult and attack me at every turn, along with a few of his cohorts. So again, it's not a political thing, a pro-Trump or anti-Trump thing, just a lack of basic board etiquette that I think has been a part of SN since I've been here for two decades or so. Then Confluence comes along and just takes a personal swipe at me, for no reason, having nothing to do with anything. So I called him a c*nt, which I think was warranted, and would have done that to his face, if he had said what he did to my face. Again, none of this has to do with politics. But who cares, really.

Hey hon, grab me a regular double/double to go, pretty please.

 

[Confluence]

Yeah, "douche your vag, commie retard" is an insult, an insult among hundreds just like it coming from you, that doesn't seem to bother anyone on this board. Thanks for coming along and providing a real time example of what I'm talking about.

He's right, you know.

 

[Tibs]

If I treated any other board member like you treat us, I'd be given the same treatment as you. It isn't about fairness; it's about being a decent person.

Tell you what, Badcat. I accept this as a reasonable, rational sentiment. In fact, I'll heed your advice.

I won't insult anyone on this board, not a single person, regardless how vile they may be towards me. I'll be respectful, even if political discourse gets heated from time to time. In exchange, all I ask, is you and others speak up when I am unilaterally, dismissively, and insultingly called a "Hungarian," a communist, a libtard, told to go crawl under a rock, to serve coffee, or insulted in a manner that you yourself would consider offensive.

I'll take this step, voluntarily. No more personal insults, curse words, or admonishment coming from me directed at my fellow Steelers fans and board members.

 

[IndySteel]

Tell you what, Badcat. I accept this as a reasonable, rational sentiment. In fact, I'll heed your advice.

I won't insult anyone on this board, not a single person, regardless how vile they may be towards me. I'll be respectful, even if political discourse gets heated from time to time. In exchange, all I ask, is you and others speak up when I am unilaterally, dismissively, and insultingly called a "Hungarian," a communist, a libtard, told to go crawl under a rock, to serve coffee, or insulted in a manner that you yourself would consider offensive.

I'll take this step, voluntarily. No more personal insults, curse words, or admonishment coming from me directed at my fellow Steelers fans and board members.

Drama queen.

 

[KentuckySteeler]

From the way Tibs acts you'd think we were all here going "We love Trump no matter what! We don't care if he's a pedo! He's sent by Jesus to save us!"

We've almost all acknowledged how flawed he is. We almost all are capable of being objective. I don't think there's a person on this board who doesn't agree that if there's any actual evidence Trump raped children he needs to rot.

This is a problem with all TDS sufferers. They are uninterested in debating facts and evidence. Uninterested in debating policy. All they care about, all they think about, what consumes their every waking moment is how much they hate Trump and everyone who supports anything he does. They call Trump supporters cultists but I've never seen a flock of such obedient sheep as anti-Trump liberals. Or should I say parrots because whatever the party line of the day week or month is, they will all repeat it ad nauseum. They have no critical thinking ability. They just start name-calling and demonizing no matter the issue. I know plenty of people like Tibs, who you used to be able to have somewhat intelligent conversations with, who've become so consumed with Trump rage they can no longer form an intelligent argument.

And I say this as someone who has plenty of negative feelings about Trump. I would choose literally any other conservative Republican over him to be president. I've never even voted for him in a primary. Still I'm able to have rational opinions on individual issues based on facts and evidence. TDS sufferers cannot.

Liberals have embarrassing policies and know they can't defend them, so they try to score points by going after policy voters as if they are cultists. Democrats are filth. There's no other way to put it.

 

[Buster]

Nobody will call you out on what a scumbag you are, as a person, and above all else, as a moderator, here on this board. It's obvious nobody at SN gives a rat's *** about decency and board etiquette, and the like. Nobody will know that you just quoted a post of mine that was deleted like seven hours ago, that nobody could see that post but you, as a mod. And you chose to bring this deleted post back onto the board, and respond to it, which only you could do, as the post was long deleted. How would I know this? Because I too was a mod and admin on this board many moons ago, before it became a wretched, stinking MAGA hellhole.

Congrats, Gary. Yet again, you've shown your true colors, what an absolute d*ck you are. Which is the reason I unfriended you on FB many years ago. It humors me to no end how infatuated you are with me, that I am literally in the footer of your SN profile, having achieved permanent residence in your f*cked-up head, living there rent-free, for so many years now.

And the funny thing is, I only deleted that post from this morning, cause I wanted to clean it up, but had to take off, so figured I'd re-post it when I got home from work this afternoon. Only to see you had brought my deleted post back from the grave, like the absolute as*hole that you are, to suit your own purposes, whatever the f*ck that may be. What a joke to have a clown like you be a moderator on a public forum like this. JFC, what an abject fall from grace for the Steeler Nation board, since the Juiceman Jr. & Diamond Dave years.

I’ll call him out as a scumbag…but he is OUR scumbag

 

[Superman]

Tell you what, Badcat. I accept this as a reasonable, rational sentiment. In fact, I'll heed your advice.

I won't insult anyone on this board, not a single person, regardless how vile they may be towards me. I'll be respectful, even if political discourse gets heated from time to time. In exchange, all I ask, is you and others speak up when I am unilaterally, dismissively, and insultingly called a "Hungarian," a communist, a libtard, told to go crawl under a rock, to serve coffee, or insulted in a manner that you yourself would consider offensive.

I'll take this step, voluntarily. No more personal insults, curse words, or admonishment coming from me directed at my fellow Steelers fans and board members.

The only reason I replied to it - and you can believe it or not, as it’s quite simply impossible for me to care less - is that post was the absolute least inflammatory of any post you have made since 2016.

And, I didn’t even insult you when I commented. Oh, the horror.

 

[Troglodyte]

THIS is being objective about Trump and his administration. Unfortunately for this country, the type of people that can never admit they are wrong are allowed to vote and are inclined to vote for an antagonistic, narcissistic sociopath.

 

[Superman]

THIS is being objective about Trump and his administration. Unfortunately for this country, the type of people that can never admit they are wrong are allowed to vote and are inclined to vote for an antagonistic, narcissistic sociopath

Bomma can’t run again.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You should apologize and resign as a moderator from the board immediately, is what you should do.

But it will be the very last thing you do, as that's not how your cult rolls.

So lemme get this straight. YOU posted stuff on a public board and wanted to retract it...

Let me remind you of the infallible truth you should know and teach your offspring - the internet never forgets. You Libs are a lost cause. Running around posting vile, wrong, demented **** on the internet, often misinformation in places like X, Facebook, and even here at SN. And when you realize you were inhumane, wrong, or offended a ton of people, you just think you can go delete said posts and all is forgiven or the history is erased?

Have you not been awake for say the past 20 years? Celebrities and politicians have posted their vile comments all over social media, only to be outed for this over and over. They try to delete their social media profiles and posts thinking "I'm hiding it" only to have those posts resurfaced and have been busted/exposed over and over and over.

Elon has done this at X. Zuck has done this at Facebook.

You have seen it. We all have.

And you think you are exempt from it here? Like there is some special rule at SN where you are allowed to type and post something then make it disappear when that doesn't apply on any other social media platform? Now you big mad at Supe for resurfacing a post you didn't like??

GTFOH lol.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

allowing you to be the most divisive, belligerent poster on this board

I think a vote would show the populous would say that personifies you, Tibor.