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The Epstein Problem

madinsomniac said:
Look, I hate to be the bearer of obvious news, but Epstein's FBI files were purged several administrations ago.
Epstein wasnt some recent development.
In the 90's, his involvement with the Clintons was flagged by all sorts of groups. Before he was a known Pedo, he was a financer tied to but never accused of participating in one of the biggest financial scandals at that time, and getting chummy with a president with his own whitewater scandal hanging over his head.

Yeah, he got caught with the Sex ring crap during the Bush administration FBI didnt nab him... local police did... the subsequent FBI investigation and federal prosecution was done under both the Bush and Obama Administration... THE FBI COLLECTED THOSE FILES INA MANNER THAT LET THEM GIVE HIM A SWEETHEART DEAL... go read about how much bullshit that original plea deal was... and again, it spanned a republican and democratic administration....

I dont ******* want to hear Dems even peep about this ****, because when we were bitching about him back then they were pooh poohing it away. Dems have pervasively ignored human trafficking claims through the past few decades... Pizzagate was an imbecilic Republican reddit concoction, but the equally stupid pushback from libs claiming Pedo rigs among the elite were conspiracy fantasies was so common it is almost humorous watching the same people flip in a heartbeat because of political agendas.

The reason why both sides have clamored to release stuff about Epstein for political gains, but both sheltered him in the past and neither were willing to do anything until the public outcry was deafening int because of politicians involvement... they eat their own all the time... its if you look too close you will dig up Financial guys involvement, and not just with kid diddling... all sorts of unsavory fraud and scams that tie to the bankers... thats what they are protecting... the money...
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Chrissy Teigen says pizza makes her squirm.
 
madinsomniac said:
Look, I hate to be the bearer of obvious news, but Epstein's FBI files were purged several administrations ago.
Epstein wasnt some recent development.
In the 90's, his involvement with the Clintons was flagged by all sorts of groups. Before he was a known Pedo, he was a financer tied to but never accused of participating in one of the biggest financial scandals at that time, and getting chummy with a president with his own whitewater scandal hanging over his head.

Yeah, he got caught with the Sex ring crap during the Bush administration FBI didnt nab him... local police did... the subsequent FBI investigation and federal prosecution was done under both the Bush and Obama Administration... THE FBI COLLECTED THOSE FILES INA MANNER THAT LET THEM GIVE HIM A SWEETHEART DEAL... go read about how much bullshit that original plea deal was... and again, it spanned a republican and democratic administration....

I dont ******* want to hear Dems even peep about this ****, because when we were bitching about him back then they were pooh poohing it away. Dems have pervasively ignored human trafficking claims through the past few decades... Pizzagate was an imbecilic Republican reddit concoction, but the equally stupid pushback from libs claiming Pedo rigs among the elite were conspiracy fantasies was so common it is almost humorous watching the same people flip in a heartbeat because of political agendas.

The reason why both sides have clamored to release stuff about Epstein for political gains, but both sheltered him in the past and neither were willing to do anything until the public outcry was deafening int because of politicians involvement... they eat their own all the time... its if you look too close you will dig up Financial guys involvement, and not just with kid diddling... all sorts of unsavory fraud and scams that tie to the bankers... thats what they are protecting... the money...
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So, hammers and BleachBit?
 
The problem that I have with the Epstein files is much like the cancel culture we saw 5-6 years ago. People potentially having their lives ruined simply for having a name mentioned in files, regardless of how or what their involvement actually was. Casey Wasserman is going to lose his agency and a good number of clients because of emails he had about a relationship with Glaxine Maxwell 6 years before anyone knew anything about Epstein. The real issue with the Epstein debacle is that it shows how little faith the US people have in the justice department. Full Transparency should not be giving names of anyone that ever talked to, emailed, was at a party...etc. with Epstein. A whole lot of innocent people are going to be destroyed. If there was any trust in the US Justice System, Pam Bondi should have been able to say these are the names of the individuals who are directly tied to child trafficking, assault, rape...etc after they were arrested and charged with a crime.
 
Steeler Pride said:
The problem that I have with the Epstein files is much like the cancel culture we saw 5-6 years ago. People potentially having their lives ruined simply for having a name mentioned in files, regardless of how or what their involvement actually was. Casey Wasserman is going to lose his agency and a good number of clients because of emails he had about a relationship with Glaxine Maxwell 6 years before anyone knew anything about Epstein. The real issue with the Epstein debacle is that it shows how little faith the US people have in the justice department. Full Transparency should not be giving names of anyone that ever talked to, emailed, was at a party...etc. with Epstein. A whole lot of innocent people are going to be destroyed. If there was any trust in the US Justice System, Pam Bondi should have been able to say these are the names of the individuals who are directly tied to child trafficking, assault, rape...etc after they were arrested and charged with a crime.
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I think it also shows how little faith Americans have in each other. In this country, you don't need any evidence of anything. A simple accusation is enough to turn a person into a pariah, at least publicly. Casey Wasserman is the latest example, but there have been many. I mean, why wait for evidence that someone was diddling kids when you can just assume it based based on someone mentioning a person's name over a completely innocuous topic based on who they associate with?
 
Sarge said:
I think it also shows how little faith Americans have in each other. In this country, you don't need any evidence of anything. A simple accusation is enough to turn a person into a pariah, at least publicly. Casey Wasserman is the latest example, but there have been many. I mean, why wait for evidence that someone was diddling kids when you can just assume it based based on someone mentioning a person's name over a completely innocuous topic based on who they associate with?
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The rules for public guilt are not even consistent. It's aggravating. Have a "D" by your name? Probably just an indiscretion. Are you in a legally protected group? You are a victim and don't get any consequences. Are you a white conservative? You're guilty.

The faith in any system is not there. One of the reasons that this nation is broken beyond repair.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
New Republic is a hard left rated site. Try again and include actual evidence.
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Richard Sollenberger is an independent journalist. The accuser was deemed to be a credible accuser and won a settlement against Epstein’s estate. Bondi lied. Patel lied. Blanche lied. Why? You’re in steadfast denial. You’re in a cult.
 
Well, what if the Epstein files contained info about what guys like Bill Gates and the dead Pedo were working on? The Brits already fired one guy, and their PM Starmer looks to going down for this too. Here is a summary:

 
 
Troglodyte said:

And you don’t find this troubling. You’re in a cult.

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I don't. Because there is nothing to corroborate this piece of garbage you posted. But you bought the pee allegations from Richard Steele, so I'm not surprised you're bothered by it.

I'll repeat the following - if Trump is proven to have been involved, if it's proven he raped and/or assaulted underage girls, I will personally vote for him to die by firing squad.

It won't happen however, because it's Russia Russia Russia again.

The difference between us is if Bill Clinton is proven guilty of the same and sentenced to death, you will be the first person to jump up and defend him. Because this is ideological for you.

You're the problem, and millions upon millions like you.
 
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