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The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

Sarge said:
Wasn’t he in a confrontation with ICE a week before he brought a gun to a protest to get in another confrontation with ICE? Doesn’t seem like especially sound judgment.
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Also I heard he was fired from his job as a VA nurse for being abusive to patients.
 
 
 
jitter77 said:
I do feel like ice has gone a bit rogue and they feel like they are above the law to a extent. They seem to resort to violence quicker than police.
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That may be true but police are rarely if ever attacked, screamed at, spit on, had garbage thrown on them, assaulted, had whistles blown in their faces, had their arrests interfered with for weeks on end, and had their off-duty locations (homes/hotels) attacked.

Apples and oranges.

jitter77 said:
When police shoot someone they get placed on leave immediately. This maybe happening with ICE agents but have not heard it.
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Same is true for ICE agents.

Administrative Leave​

Following the shooting, the two agents involved were placed on administrative leave, which is a standard procedure in such cases. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) stated that this action should not be interpreted as an indication of wrongdoing. The agents are no longer on field duty while the incident is under review.
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Standard procedure.

jitter77 said:
The protesters are also in the wrong and playing dangerous games and losing. I think the hood shooting was more justified. This one the guy was face down on the ground with like 4 agents around. They should have been able to see his hands and what not. Someone lost mental control and just pulled the trigger. They are lucky none of the agents got hit
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As I described in my earlier post, the shooting has a lot of questions/flaws surrounding it. What appears to have happened is that when the ICE agents began wrestling with Pretti, they noticed the gun and gave the universal warning cops issue, yelling, "GUN!" The ICE agent disarms Pretti but the wrestling continues. It certainly appears that the ICE agent who disarmed Pretti discharged the weapon accidentally. That gunshot, after the warning "GUN!" very likely caused the officers to shoot Pretti, the one they believed still had the gun.

The rule is that if an officer has reasonable cause to believe he is in danger of serious harm, he can shoot the suspect. That applies here. I think it terrible that the guy died, and that Good died, but the simple fact remains that citizens cannot simply insert themselves into a police procedure and think they are protected. They aren't. It is absolutely illegal to resist arrest or interfere with an arrest, for any reason, for no reason, for a great reason, doesn't matter. Take it up with the judge.

The basis for such laws banning resisting arrest or interfering with an arrest - every state and the Fed government have them - is to avoid what we are seeing in Minnesota with the chaos, wrestling on the ground, injuries, and death. Those are the natural consequences of resisting arrest or interfering with an arrest.

And to any imbecile who says, "Hey, the cops can't do that to a woman!" I respond - you are a ******* moron. Almost every person involved in a tussle with the cops winds up reaching for the officer's weapon. As I posted a long time ago, I used to represent cops injured on the job. I would look over their employment files and injury history and was stunned at how often cops have to wrestle with suspects and the frequency of hand injuries.

I asked one client, "Why so many hand injuries?" He explained that suspects who resist almost always reach for the cop's gun, and the cop is trying to get the cuffs on the bad guy, with just the dominant hand protecting the weapon, so the cop's thumb and fingers are yanked, pried, pulled and hurt. He showed me his right hand and the knuckle on his thumb was noticeably bigger than the normal size due to a prior partial dislocation.

Guess what? Women suspects also reach for the cop's gun. **** around and you are dead. So again, any imbecile who says that the cops should treat women suspects differently are morons.

Oh, and what do those morons say about a 230 lb. cop shooting 115 lb. Ashli Babbit when she was NOT touching a cop at the time, let alone wrestling with a cop??? Yeah, thought so.
 
 
Troglodyte said:
😂 How desperate you are to find alternative facts. Pathetic.
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How desperate you are to cling to bullshit narratives from bullshit artists.
do dispute what she said in this reel.

this should be great. but, you've not watched the reel, you refuse to question what you believe and have no desire to have a discussion. cuck.
 
Superman said:
How desperate you are to cling to bullshit narratives from bullshit artists.
do dispute what she said in this reel.

this should be great. but, you've not watched the reel, you refuse to question what you believe and have no desire to have a discussion. cuck.
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Did you fact check the reel? No, you did not. You don’t care about facts.
 
Troglodyte said:
Did you fact check the reel? No, you did not. You don’t care about facts.
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Did you fact check the reel? No, you did not. You don’t care about facts.
 
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