The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

[IndySteel]

Just remember, Trump using taxpayer dollars for a 4th of July Celebration is a travesty to Liberals. Yet they remained silent, said nary a word, as Obama used US Taxpayer Dollars to try to oust Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel while interfering in their election process.

No...outrage...at...all.

Seems a bit odd eh since Progressives get their panties all tied up in knots over foreign interference in elections and now wasteful use of taxpayer money.

Oh the lovely hypocrisy.

The cost is 0.013% of what Obama gave to Iran for their nuclear program, which Dims had no problem with.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The cost is 0.013% of what Obama gave to Iran for their nuclear program, which Dims had no problem with.

But, but, but, the Park Service has to keep historic homes open that 6 people visit a day!

 

[Tibs]

The cost is 0.013% of what Obama gave to Iran for their nuclear program, which Dims had no problem with.

Obama gave 0 cents to Iran. The US unfroze Iranian cash deposits when the sanctions were lifted as part of the international nuclear deal. Check your facts. I know the peanut gallery here nods along to all the bs spread around, but at least make an attempt to post accurate information. At least once in a blue moon.

 

[Steelworth]

Here's a Medal of Honor recipient's opinion on the military parade - https://www.foxnews.com/us/medal-of-honor-recipient-trump-4th-of-july-celebration

Forget about him, take what Hungarians and Antifa sympathizers have to say on the matter.

 

[IndySteel]

Obama gave 0 cents to Iran. The US unfroze Iranian cash deposits when the sanctions were lifted as part of the international nuclear deal. Check your facts. I know the peanut gallery here nods along to all the bs spread around, but at least make an attempt to post accurate information. At least once in a blue moon.

Wrong. The amount of education that you lack is staggering.

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/obama-admin-paid-iran-1-7-billion-taxpayer-funds/

 

[Superman]

Maybe true patriots will have some fun at the 'A Salute To Donald J. Trump' rally, like they did when Nixon tried something similar with his disastrous 'Honor America Day' in 1970. I wonder what's being planned as far as protests, should be a fun-filled day for all. God Bless America!

your antifa queefs would be wise to sit this one out.

as for your statement/question... you're now for protesting the country? and you wonder why you're called an unpatriotic troll.

 

[Steelworth]

Obama gave 0 cents to Iran.

 

[Superman]

Obama gave 0 cents to Iran. The US unfroze Iranian cash deposits when the sanctions were lifted as part of the international nuclear deal. Check your facts. I know the peanut gallery here nods along to all the bs spread around, but at least make an attempt to post accurate information. At least once in a blue moon.

the same nuclear deal where Iran promised to not enrich uranium to nuclear weaponry capability? that wonderful ******* plan or some other bullshit Bomma signed with his e-pen not worth the bandwidth it used?

 

[Spike]

What a great holiday. The Dims are livid, triggered and demoralized...and the celebration hasn't even started yet!

LOL

Fireworks, patriotic music and the American flag waving!

Everything the left hates most, its gonna be great


Oh yeah, and Tanks and jet fly-bys....woo hoo

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Some perspective on tanks in parades in Washington. This is nothing new. https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...ugh-washington-before/?utm_term=.8f3bcfcffc3f

More hyperventilating over nothing.

 

[Superman]

oh, those poor roads in Washington, DC. Such pristine beauties that afford the users a pleasant ride to work to generate revenue for the government to tax, which is then used for road repair.
except when it isnt

https://wtop.com/dc/2018/03/hit-pothole-dc-might-pay-repairs/

Last year, DDOT paid out dozens of claims for pothole damage for $35 to $6,353.50, data provided to the D.C. Council show.

The biggest payout came more than a year after an incident that happened on Aug. 23, 2016; D.C. also paid out $5,358.21 for an incident on Dec. 29, 2016.

A number of other payouts ranged from several hundred dollars to more than $2,000; several dozen claims were denied, including one from someone who said they tripped and fell in a pothole.

Some claims are filed by individual people; others, by insurance companies looking to get their money back for repairs done immediately following an incident.

Many of the claims took months to resolve, since drivers must show there was some kind of negligence involved – for example, a pothole that was reported weeks earlier the city failed to fix.

the wonderful streets with their ginormous potholes have even generated a nickname. Potholalooza
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-ne...-claim-if-your-car-is-damaged-in-dc-md-and-va

“Sometimes it’s like navigating a little war zone,” said John Corn, who moved to the nation’s capital from Florida in 2007. “If you don’t pay attention, you hit a pothole, all the sudden you’re like ‘Boom!’ And you are like, ‘What just hit my car?’ And you realize it was just a D.C. pothole.”

Every year, tens of thousands of potholes are reported in D.C., Maryland and Virginia.

“It’s too overwhelming of a problem,” said Gunning. “You can’t just do a little single pothole.”

Enter Potholepalooza. It is D.C.’s answer to that very problem. Every spring, the city’s extra push wipes out thousands of potholes. Last year’s Potholepalooza resulted in 22,000 filled holes. In 2016, the city filled 75,000.

one news station even went the extra mile to list all the numbers people should call to report potholes
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Potholes-244374321.html


yeah, kinda **** those streets in Washington, DC. seems they need to be fixed anyway.

 

[Tibs]

Wrong.

I thought you were referring to the $150 billion that Trump - and the right-wing media - lies about constantly, claiming Obama sent that amount over to Iran. Those funds were the Iranians' money frozen in bank accounts around the globe, which were freed-up when sanctions were lifted. And the number is much lower than that. As usual Trump significantly embellished that figure, as he does everything else, and completety misrepresented the facts in the case.

The high-end estimate from the U.S. Treasury Department in 2015 was $56 billion, and outside analysts believe the number could be lower.

The $1.7bn that was paid to Iran, was a completely separate issue having to do with a botched arms deal from the 70's. The interest was through the roof, but it was ruled on by international courts, and the case was settled. Not sure what Obama should have, or could have done differently.

—The $1.8 (actually $1.7 billion) was a debt owed to Iran, which bought military equipment from the U.S. that it never received because relations ruptured when the shah was overthrown in 1979.

—The debt was in international arbitration for years. As part of that, Iran paid settlements of more than $2.5 billion to U.S. citizens and businesses.

—$400 million, representing the principal and held in a U.S. government trust fund, was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane, which gave rise to Trump’s dramatic accounts of money stuffed in barrels or boxes and delivered in the dead of night.

The remaining $1.3 billion, representing interest accrued over nearly 40 years, was paid separately. In order not to violate U.S. regulations barring direct U.S. dollar transfers to Iranian banks, the money was remitted to Iran in late January and early February 2016 in foreign hard currency from the central banks of the Netherlands and of Switzerland, according to the Congressional Research Service .

https://www.apnews.com/808252202a1c403f82fe16f9676dcdd8

I'm sure this came as a shock to Trump, as he's made a career leaving behind unpaid bills in his wake.

 

[Steelworth]

Obama gave 0 cents to Iran.

The high-end estimate from the U.S. Treasury Department in 2015 was $56 billion, and outside analysts believe the number could be lower.

 

[Superman]

I thought you were referring to the $150 billion that Trump - and the right-wing media - lies about constantly, claiming Obama sent that amount over to Iran. Those funds were the Iranians' money frozen in bank accounts around the globe, which were freed-up when sanctions were lifted. And the number is much lower than that. As usual Trump significantly embellished that figure, as he does everything else, and completety misrepresented the facts in the case.



The $1.7bn that was paid to Iran, was a completely separate issue having to do with a botched arms deal from the 70's. The interest was through the roof, but it was ruled on by international courts, and the case was settled. Not sure what Obama should have, or could have done differently.

could have refused to pay it. easy peezy. could have used the same ******* metric on iran that he used on those he disagreed with polticially. denied payment. could have looked at who he was giving this money to and refused to pay it. done deal. could have said "**** iran" and that would be the end of it.

instead he orchestrates a not-so-stealthy flight into iran with pallets of cash.
and you want to say it the amount was a lie...

from the LEFT leaning LA Times:

https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-iran-payment-cash-20160907-snap-story.html

The Obama administration is acknowledging its transfer of $1.7 billion to Iran earlier this year was made entirely in cash, using non-U.S. currency, as Republican critics of the transaction continued to denounce the payments.

Treasury Department spokeswoman Dawn Selak said in a statement late Tuesday that the cash payments were necessary because of the "effectiveness of U.S. and international sanctions," which isolated Iran from the international finance system.

The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a decades-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. An initial $400 million of euros, Swiss francs and other foreign currency was delivered on pallets Jan. 17, the same day Tehran agreed to release four American prisoners.

The Obama administration had claimed the events were separate, but recently acknowledged the cash was used as leverage until the Americans were allowed to leave Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s. The administration had previously declined to say if the interest was delivered to Iran in physical cash, as with the principal, or via a more regular banking mechanism.

Earlier Tuesday, officials from the State, Justice and Treasury departments held a closed-door briefing for congressional staff on the payments, according to a Capitol Hill aide familiar with the session. The officials said the $1.3 billion was paid in cash on Jan. 22 and Feb. 5. The aide was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.

The money came from a little-known fund administered by the Treasury Department for settling litigation claims. The so-called Judgment Fund is taxpayer money Congress has permanently approved in the event it's needed, allowing the president to bypass direct congressional approval to make a settlement. The U.S. previously paid out $278 million in Iran-related claims by using the fund in 1991.

allow me to point you to this part of that...

The so-called Judgment Fund is taxpayer money

in case you missed it...

taxpayer money

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Some perspective on tanks in parades in Washington. This is nothing new. https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...ugh-washington-before/?utm_term=.8f3bcfcffc3f

More hyperventilating over nothing.

Tibs isn't going to like this, not one little bit. Another bitchy whiny point...destroyed.

God Bless America!

The inaugural parade for President John F. Kennedy on Jan. 20, 1961. (Abbie Rowe/John F. Kennedy Presidential Library)

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On July 28, 1932, the government forcibly removed nearly 20,000 jobless veterans who encamped on Pennsylvania Avenue to demand bonus payments from Congress.

A tank rolls passed the U.S. Capitol building during a rainy Army Day parade on April 6, 1939. (Library of Congress/Library of Congress)

The inaugural parade for President Dwight D. Eisenhower's second term on Jan. 21, 1957. (Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library/Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library)

President George H.W. Bush chats with a unidentified soldier atop a Combat Engineering Vehicle on the Mall in Washington on June 7, 1991, ahead of the National Victory Celebration parade the next day. (Marcy Nighswander/ASSOCIATED PRESS)

 

[Superman]

from that same thread, Tibsy:

Republicans have decried the payments as ransom, a charge the Obama administration has rejected. On Tuesday, a group of Republican senators announced their support for legislation that would bar payments from the Judgment Fund to Iran until Tehran pays the nearly $55.6 billion that U.S. courts have judged that it owes to American victims of Iranian terrorism.

you see that?

$55.6 Billion that Iran owes US.

FITTY FI POIN SICTS BILLYUN

 

[Tibs]

...some dumbass ****...

Again, that was Iranians money frozen in international bank accounts, relating to the nuclear deal and sanctions being lifted.

The amount that was paid by the US had nothing to do with the nuclear deal, and it a was a fraction of that.

My statement that Obama paid 0 cents to Iran for signing the nuclear deal is 100% accurate.

But facts never mattered much to you and your ilk. It's all about the spin and the messaging.

 

[Steelworth]

The inaugural parade for President John F. Kennedy on Jan. 20, 1961. (Abbie Rowe/John F. Kennedy Presidential Library)

Ooh, that throws a wrench into the faux outrage.

 

[Tibs]

Tibs isn't going to like this, not one little bit. Another bitchy whiny point...destroyed.

Great, we had military parades back in the 30's and 40's and to celebrate inaugurations and the end of wars. Since then, the US has established itself as the preeminent military and economic power on the globe, and it's been 28 years since anyone thought about rolling tanks down the streets of DC. Not Reagan, not Bush. The last President to do so, with no undue irony, was of course Nixon himself.

What Trump is doing here is hijacking a national holiday to make it all about him. He is co-opting the military for his own personal gain and reelection campaign. You don't see that as the problem because you can't see two inches in front of your own nose, due to the fact it's lodged so far up Trump's fat ***.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

it's been 28 years since anyone thought about rolling tanks down the streets of DC. Not Reagan, not Bush. The last President to do so, with no undue irony, was of course Nixon himself.

How many times can you be wrong in just ONE hour?

President George H.W. Bush chats with a unidentified soldier atop a Combat Engineering Vehicle on the Mall in Washington on June 7, 1991, ahead of the National Victory Celebration parade the next day. (Marcy Nighswander/ASSOCIATED PRESS)

 

[Steelworth]

Great, we had military parades back in the 30's and 40's and to celebrate inaugurations and the end of wars. Since then, the US has established itself as the preeminent military and economic power on the globe, and it's been 28 years since anyone thought about rolling tanks down the streets of DC. Not Reagan, not Bush. The last President to do so, with no undue irony, was of course Nixon himself.

What Trump is doing here is hijacking a national holiday to make it all about him. He is co-opting the military for his own personal gain and reelection campaign. You don't see that as the problem because you can't see two inches in front of your own nose, due to the fact it's lodged so far up Trump's fat ***.

 

[Superman]

Again, that was Iranians money frozen in international bank accounts, relating to the nuclear deal and sanctions being lifted.

The amount that was paid by the US had nothing to do with the nuclear deal, and it a was a fraction of that.

My statement that Obama paid 0 cents to Iran for signing the nuclear deal is 100% accurate.

But facts never mattered much to you and your ilk. It's all about the spin and the messaging.

I see your point. you're right. Obama himself never paid **** to Iran.

instead, just as the LATimes said, it was us taxpayers who paid **** to Iran.

 

[Supersteeler]

Great, we had military parades back in the 30's and 40's and to celebrate inaugurations and the end of wars. Since then, the US has established itself as the preeminent military and economic power on the globe, and it's been 28 years since anyone thought about rolling tanks down the streets of DC. Not Reagan, not Bush. The last President to do so, with no undue irony, was of course Nixon himself.

What Trump is doing here is hijacking a national holiday to make it all about him. He is co-opting the military for his own personal gain and reelection campaign. You don't see that as the problem because you can't see two inches in front of your own nose, due to the fact it's lodged so far up Trump's fat ***.

You are highly triggered lately and you don't seem to be sure why. Is it the patriotic holiday that has you so up in arms?

As to your comment that it is turning into a Republican Party......are you going to even attempt to suggest that a Liberal who showed American patriotism would not be shunned immediately by their Liberal cronies? Would you be untruthful enough to attempt that argument. Face it, the Republican Party is the only one that allows people to show Patriotism. The other side hates America.

 

[21STEELERS21]

Countries with the most military parades: North Korea, Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran. "Make America Communist Someday" Trump's secret slogan.
I've heard tickets for the event are being handled by the RNC and only given to Republicans. Another Communist tactic.

 

[Superman]

you know who won't be "using the military as a political tool for re-election"?